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Source is important. Snatching ideas or ideals is plagiarism. Even more when its altered before repassing. Its like I take one of your quotes, alter it and pass along, then when confronted, I blame you.
Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain ok So who did the Church plagiarize? Are you saying that the Magna Carta doesn't represent the views of the Church (and therefore the Bible) at the time it was written given the first and last points relate directly with how the King should deal with the Church, that is separation of Church and State? Of course it is plagiarism. Anyone with a shallow knowledge of ancient religions can verify that all Abrahamic religions are nothing but a compilation of many different religions, including moral code. The bible itself is plagiarism, so many of the stories in there are almost exact copies of ancient ones, ie Gilgamesh(which by itself is again a copy). Oral tradition distorted it along time little by little but the essence is there. Church, religion, bible, this is all a huge waste of time. As for the Magna Carta, indeed it contains biblical precepts. What you CANNOT assume is that without religion there would be no moral. And just for the record, morality is a social construct. Moral to one society might be completely immoral to another and vice-versa. Excellent, then you agree that Western law and governance is built on the basis of Christian values as contained in the Bible. Yes it might have come from elsewhere but nonetheless it is still true to say that. No, they aren't. And once again, you've changed your position. You said: Christian values come from the teaching of Christ, Jesus, not believing the Bible or divinity.You criticized me for conflating 'Christian values' with the Bible, the church and religion, yet you're doing it now that it suits you. You said Christian values come from the teachings of Jesus. Well, then the politics of the Magna Carta are not Christian values. Jesus said nothing about fair taxation or democracy. Christians existed for nearly 2000 years before the Magna Carta. The church was silent on slavery for nearly 2000 years until attitudes towards it changed. If these are Christian values, why did it take nearly 2000 years for them to be implemented? You think it's possible that there were other factors involved? By your own logic, just because Christians come up with an idea centuries after Jesus, that idea is not automatically a 'Christian value.' Was it 'Christian values' at work when Christians were burning witches at the stake? Imprisoning Galileo and killing scientists for heresy? What makes you think you can just pick and choose which ideas are Christian values?
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