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Message Subject Scientists Baffled-New Discoveries-Darwinian Evolution Crumbling-Scientists Abandon Theory
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Not a generality, specifically. They are still debating where the different types of Pinnipeds "evolved" from.

So can you trace a Walrus all the way back to the initial microbes?
 Quoting: newtome


No, there's no real debate. Pennipeds are in the order Carnivora. Those in the order Carnivora are more related to each other than those outside the order.

All the evidence indicates that walruses diverged from Carnivorans, which diverged from mammals, which diverged from tetrapods, which diverged from chordates, which diverged from eukaryotes.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


Yet they are still not certain. It has not been proven,

"All the evidence" is not proof. You made the assertion so the burden of proof is with you and "all the evidence" is not proof.
 Quoting: newtome


Some say they are certain. I don't. Do you consider paternity tests to be proof? Because the ERV evidence is about as reliable.

I made the assertion that the evidence is on the side of evolution theory (specifically common ancestry)and that it can explain the observed data. It is and it does.

Proof is usually associated with math. Science builds explanatory models. Models with predictive power are more probably correct than those without.
 Quoting: Spur-Man


and now you are running away from what you said

The model of common ancestry can explain why everything appears the way it does, and it does so using natural phenomena that we already observe directly.

Are you prepared to accept that other hypotheses can also explain and have not been disproved but are the accepted model at the moment?

By your definition of proof the climate models don't prove the link between CO2 and temperature.
 
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