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NEWSWEEK: We Are Not Seeing the Predicted Rising Sea Levels From Global Warming Because the Sea is Now Heavier and Pushing Down the Ocean Floor

 
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The late Alexander Cockburn was a Lefty but he was pro gun and also called out the Global Warming crowd as "the biggest liars in history."

He was a very interesting and complex man. I read during his last years he gave up on Big Government Leftism and became an anarchist.

This short video touches on several topics but he destroys the Global Warmers with basic logic. It's worth a few minutes of your time.


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Best video ever.

Watch it. Its great.
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NEWSWEEK: We Are Not Seeing the Predicted Rising Sea Levels From Global Warming Because the Sea is Now Heavier and Pushing Down the Ocean Floor

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"THE OCEAN FLOOR IS SINKING UNDER THE WATER WEIGHT FROM MELTING GLACIERS, AND IT’S AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS"

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 Quoting: KOS-MOS


My first reaction was an eyebrow tilt. So they were serious, eh? LOL Gotta love it. Water is getting heavier these days - noticed it myself when I get a glass of water - takes two hands now instead of one. Uh huh That's right!
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I can still one hand a 2 liter pepsi and take a drink.
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Pepsi is not as heavy as water. It's all those bubbles, you see.
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Oh yes I forgot about the C02.
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Just tryign to make sense of that title gave me a headache. I must have read it 3 times thinking I was waaaay more tired than I thought.

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Does this mean that Anne Margaret is NOT coming?
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I knew it.

The ocean will press on the ocean floor until it punches through. Causing everything around the hole to fall in followed by everything behind it. The whole planet will then churn like kneaded dough--like folding buttermilk into biscuits only with tree roots and asphalt and shrieking terrified people.

I knew something like this would happen.

The ocean will punch through and swallow us. The earth itself will swallow us. Gaia behaving like Chronos, and Saturn, swallowing her children.

We're going to punch a hole in the ocean floor, fall through the hole, and either break apart into chunks or get kneaded up like pizza dough.

It's going to throw the moon off orbit. We wrecked the moon.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Wouldn't that create a big geyser in China? lmao
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Its from all the surfers......they never dry their wetsuits ya know
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Because water weighs more than ice.
 Quoting: ChamesGamron


So a pound of water is heavier than a pound of ice?
 Quoting: Copperhead


No. But think. Take a peat pot. Suspend it somehow. You can fill it with icicles and it will be fine. It will last a long time. When the ice warms and melts, the water will press on the floor until it drops out.



I know how to say it. Water has an even distribution of weight that ice does not have.

If you tie ice cubes in a balloon and the same volume of water in an identical balloon and hang them on a clothes line, the ice balloon won't hang as low as the water balloon.
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It's ever so much more fun if we don't bring weight distribution into it.

Let's get back to breaking the moon, k?
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Fun, fun, fun, whoopee. If we break the moon no matter, someone will make another one. No one stops to think about WHO or to consider that we will all dead. I don't know how you expect to survive it.

Probably the earth will break into parts and gravity will round them out and they will stay in the same orbit around the sun but making a fast orbit around each other. I hope I'm dead before that.
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This is the funniest thing I've read all day, next to a former border agent saying the migrants could eat the pepper spray on their nachos.
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Because water weighs more than ice.
 Quoting: ChamesGamron


So a pound of water is heavier than a pound of ice?
 Quoting: Copperhead


No. But think. Take a peat pot. Suspend it somehow. You can fill it with icicles and it will be fine. It will last a long time. When the ice warms and melts, the water will press on the floor until it drops out.



I know how to say it. Water has an even distribution of weight that ice does not have.

If you tie ice cubes in a balloon and the same volume of water in an identical balloon and hang them on a clothes line, the ice balloon won't hang as low as the water balloon.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


Liquid water has a greater mass density than ice. Pour water into an ice cube tray and freeze it, and the resulting ice cubes will come up higher than the level you poured the water.

If an iceberg melts in the ocean, it doesn't change the water level AT ALL. That iceberg was showing a bit above the surface (floating) because it's a bit less dense than water. When it melts, all that mass shrinks back into the space occupied below the water by the iceberg.

Archimedes' Principle: a floating object displaces its weight of water.

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NEWSWEEK: We Are Not Seeing the Predicted Rising Sea Levels From Global Warming Because the Sea is Now Heavier and Pushing Down the Ocean Floor

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"THE OCEAN FLOOR IS SINKING UNDER THE WATER WEIGHT FROM MELTING GLACIERS, AND IT’S AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS"

[link to www.newsweek.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KOS-MOS


Boy, that's right up there with there isn't more CO2 in the atmosphere because it's hiding in the deep ocean, just waiting to expelled.
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with logic like this, shouldn't all Earth's volcanoes be blowing to equalize the pressure?...or is this the most bizarre rationalization of a theory ever?

These folks think they can predict how a planet will behave under virtually infinite circumstances...are they GODS??? The Earth is I "somewhat" complex organism...trying to predict it's minutia is something of a "challenge"...ya think??!!?
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Does this mean that Anne Margaret is NOT coming?
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Sorry, St. Bronson, no. Only highly excited.
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NEWSWEEK: We Are Not Seeing the Predicted Rising Sea Levels From Global Warming Because the Sea is Now Heavier and Pushing Down the Ocean Floor

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"THE OCEAN FLOOR IS SINKING UNDER THE WATER WEIGHT FROM MELTING GLACIERS, AND IT’S AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS"

[link to www.newsweek.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KOS-MOS


Boy, that's right up there with there isn't more CO2 in the atmosphere because it's hiding in the deep ocean, just waiting to expelled.
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What you said is quite true, isn't it? Following all appropriate logic, of course.

Had to pop a bottle of sparkling cider and pour a waterglass full lest I sink under the weight of this thread.
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Because water weighs more than ice.
 Quoting: ChamesGamron


So a pound of water is heavier than a pound of ice?
 Quoting: Copperhead


No. But think. Take a peat pot. Suspend it somehow. You can fill it with icicles and it will be fine. It will last a long time. When the ice warms and melts, the water will press on the floor until it drops out.



I know how to say it. Water has an even distribution of weight that ice does not have.

If you tie ice cubes in a balloon and the same volume of water in an identical balloon and hang them on a clothes line, the ice balloon won't hang as low as the water balloon.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


Liquid water has a greater mass density than ice. Pour water into an ice cube tray and freeze it, and the resulting ice cubes will come up higher than the level you poured the water.

If an iceberg melts in the ocean, it doesn't change the water level AT ALL. That iceberg was showing a bit above the surface (floating) because it's a bit less dense than water. When it melts, all that mass shrinks back into the space occupied below the water by the iceberg.

Archimedes' Principle: a floating object displaces its weight of water.
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On a serious note, my area gets very cold only once in a while. When it does, people's pipes freeze. I cannot tell you how many people just cannot understand that the pipes do NOT break when frozen. It's the thawing, when the water expands, that breaks them. My bathtub pipes in the country froze several times each winter. I simply opened the tap and waited. The people I tried to help would call a plumber and pay the weekend or holiday prices to have him come out and thaw their pipes, when they could have just opened the taps and waited.

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So a pound of water is heavier than a pound of ice?
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No. But think. Take a peat pot. Suspend it somehow. You can fill it with icicles and it will be fine. It will last a long time. When the ice warms and melts, the water will press on the floor until it drops out.



I know how to say it. Water has an even distribution of weight that ice does not have.

If you tie ice cubes in a balloon and the same volume of water in an identical balloon and hang them on a clothes line, the ice balloon won't hang as low as the water balloon.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


It's ever so much more fun if we don't bring weight distribution into it.

Let's get back to breaking the moon, k?
 Quoting: Pooka


Fun, fun, fun, whoopee. If we break the moon no matter, someone will make another one. No one stops to think about WHO or to consider that we will all dead. I don't know how you expect to survive it.

Probably the earth will break into parts and gravity will round them out and they will stay in the same orbit around the sun but making a fast orbit around each other. I hope I'm dead before that.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


OMW - don't tell me you are taking this seriously?

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NEWSWEEK: We Are Not Seeing the Predicted Rising Sea Levels From Global Warming Because the Sea is Now Heavier and Pushing Down the Ocean Floor

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"THE OCEAN FLOOR IS SINKING UNDER THE WATER WEIGHT FROM MELTING GLACIERS, AND IT’S AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS"

[link to www.newsweek.com (secure)]
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Because water weighs more than ice.
 Quoting: ChamesGamron


So a pound of water is heavier than a pound of ice?
 Quoting: Copperhead


No. But think. Take a peat pot. Suspend it somehow. You can fill it with icicles and it will be fine. It will last a long time. When the ice warms and melts, the water will press on the floor until it drops out.



I know how to say it. Water has an even distribution of weight that ice does not have.

If you tie ice cubes in a balloon and the same volume of water in an identical balloon and hang them on a clothes line, the ice balloon won't hang as low as the water balloon.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


Liquid water has a greater mass density than ice. Pour water into an ice cube tray and freeze it, and the resulting ice cubes will come up higher than the level you poured the water.

If an iceberg melts in the ocean, it doesn't change the water level AT ALL. That iceberg was showing a bit above the surface (floating) because it's a bit less dense than water. When it melts, all that mass shrinks back into the space occupied below the water by the iceberg.

Archimedes' Principle: a floating object displaces its weight of water.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Archimedes never bathed children. They displace their volume of water.
Seriously now. If I have two toy boats, one balsa wood and one lead...I get that. The balsa would get less wet, sink less low. Displace less water.

But objects that do not float displace water based on their volume as well as their weight. I can have a big rock and a Little Rock that weigh the same. If I sink them the big rock displaces more water.

OK. But the ocean isn't a bowl of water. it has its own geography, weather patterns, and water movements like tows and undertows and things I don't know about. Melting the ice changes the water pressure on some points of the floor by changing the structure of the floor.

If you measure the pressure on different points of the ocean floor the measurements change as you take the same volume and weight of water and freeze or melt it.

The suggestion is that the reason global warming isn't raising water levels is because the weight of the water is pressing upon the floor lowering the levels.

The actual total weight volume of ice and water might not change. Transforming some ice to water could change the geographical features of the ocean, the movement of water and the pressure on some parts of the floor.

We could get the whole planet turned inside out. I hope there's time to prepare and it's not just all at once the plains start rolling toward me like clouds or waves and then crunch.


Maybe that makes sense. I can dig out a structure in snow or damp sand, fill them with water but the weighted the water won't weight the same on each part of the floor. Will it?

How is water weight measures in water?

A pound of water is a pound of water and so the deep end of a pool contains more ponds than the shallow end. A person is going to feel more pressure in deep water than in its very confusing. And yeah shallow water.

How DO you measure water pressure on the ocean floor?

Because I think Melting the ice could put more pressure on the ocean floor that ice. The total weight of the ice water doesn't change but the distribution of the weight changes due to all kinds of variables and we're going to punch through the ocean floor and wish we hadnt
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We can all laugh at the absurdity of this whole GW charade. But all it takes is a little consensus amongst so-called scientists (actually political operatives in lab coats) to prove that their belief in this new "heavy water" theory.

I guess the seas are transforming into deuterium. Hell, Google it.
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And here I was thinking that it was yet another trick by the magical Climate Change Fairy....silly me.
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"THE OCEAN FLOOR IS SINKING UNDER THE WATER WEIGHT FROM MELTING GLACIERS, AND IT’S AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS"

[link to www.newsweek.com (secure)]
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“Probably because water is a lot wetter then it used to be. Makes it very hard to make powdered water.”

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Complex scenario

Something is amiss


On a massive scale

There's bound to be lag affects



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My God. The stupid on this thread is truly breathtaking.

Move lots of water from continental to oceanic crust, and you get isostatic re-equilibration. Obviously.A shift of 0.08" per year sounds entirely plausible, given that Scotland is still rising 1 mm per year as a rebound after the ice cap was removed 12000 years ago.

I'm just not sure whether it's good or bad...
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but but there are more people and trump towers and houses and things on the planet now pushing the dirt down which makes us all even , earth sky water so that negates that philosophy ... AND nobody Think about all the ships in the ocean and nowcthecTrump affect removed billions of tons of steel and shops and barges so there goes the sea level down again , but then again we have all that buiuullshite that has to go somewhere so now the damn sea is rising again.. it's like a never ending cycle and it ain't even weather or climate,,. it's just stuff ... Stuff Change ... Stiff makes things change.. Wow.. that is Deeep.
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My God. The stupid on this thread is truly breathtaking.

Move lots of water from continental to oceanic crust, and you get isostatic re-equilibration. Obviously.A shift of 0.08" per year sounds entirely plausible, given that Scotland is still rising 1 mm per year as a rebound after the ice cap was removed 12000 years ago.

I'm just not sure whether it's good or bad...
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“Probably because water is a lot wetter then it used to be. Makes it very hard to make powdered water.”

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She did not. Did she?
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They keep pushing the lie so they can tax people.
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Any scientific study that uses words such as may, could, might, possibly, don't mean shit.
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