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the ballout didnt help?
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the ballout didnt help?
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GM makes shit so give them what they deserve, NOTHING. They want to fuck America who built them then we fuck them back HARD!
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I bought the SS 50th Anniversary... damn nice ride
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I’ve owned all models of trucks. Employed them in the worst conditions possible.

I now own a Nissan Titan. Best truck I’ve ever owned and it’s the ONLY truck 100% engineered and built in America.
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He need to look at Boeing, Lockheed etc... too.
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Update: Mere moments after Larry Kudlow made it very clear just how disappointed and betrayed Trump felt by Mary Barra's layoff and plant shuttering announcement on Monday, the president tweeted that he is "very disappointed with General Motors and their CEO, Mary Barra, for closing plants in Ohio, Michigan and Maryland" even as nothing was being closed in Mexico & China. As a result, he is "now looking at cutting all GM subsidies, including for electric cars."

The reason for Trump's anger? "U.S. saved General Motors, and this is the THANKS we get!"

....for electric cars. General Motors made a big China bet years ago when they built plants there (and in Mexico) - don’t think that bet is going to pay off. I am here to protect America’s Workers!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2018

GM stock is sliding after Trump's tweet...
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Why the hell are they getting ANY subs? They still owe us taxpayers 10 billion dollars.
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I would LOVE an answer to this simple question, why is GM getting taxpayer SUBSIDIES????
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Why the hell are they getting ANY subs? They still owe us taxpayers 10 billion dollars.
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I would LOVE an answer to this simple question, why is GM getting taxpayer SUBSIDIES????
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GM makes shit so give them what they deserve, NOTHING. They want to fuck America who built them then we fuck them back HARD!
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My 2017 Camaro SS is not Shit. It may well be the best performance car for the money in history.
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I bought the SS 50th Anniversary... damn nice ride
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Well done president Trump! Making America great again!
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good move President Trump, it is time that Republicans stood up to corporate greed.

We like good corporate citizens and will fight for them but not greedy pigs.
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The stereotype of corporate America somehow being of the political right flies in the face of all the liberals/leftists/libtards who occupy many of the executive suites and boardrooms of Company A, B and C.

The CEO in charge of GM is apparently of the left, most people in greedy, sleazy Silicon Valley are of the left, most people in the big media/entertainment outfits of Hollywood/New York are of the left, many of the wheelers and dealers in New York City's Wall Street are of the left.

Think of an army of greedy, dishonest, unethical Hillarys marching in lock-step with a bunch of "You didn't build that" Obamas. All shades of liberalism, from very leftwing to ultra-leftwing. Think of liberal/leftwing George Soros smiling when talking about his time helping Nazis in 1930s Germany.

Even the canard that a supposedly "I couldn't give a shit about your pain" rightwing hesrighthesrightRepublican helped turned the depression of the late 1920s-1930s into a "Great Depression" is contradicted by the fact Herbert Hoover increased incomes taxes on upper-income people to a confiscatory level of the 80-percentile range. That was straight out of the Liberals/Leftists handbook.

Obama/Hillary would have been envious.


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This pisses me off.

I have only had Silverado Duramax's my whole adult life.

Going to look at Ford and Dodge now..
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Dodge does not own or build the RAM pickup truck. Dodge sold RAM to FIAT (fix it again Tony)..

A Ford truck payment is about the size of a home mortgage now, and after 10 years, its worth 1/10th of what you paid for it.

Why invest in a depreciating asset? Buy an old Chevy truck and restore it. At least it will keep its value.

Idiots who buy $70k trucks are compensating for what they don't have. Ever seen the bumper sticker 'Nice Truck, sorry about your dick' ?
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It's a start for the Subsidy-hungry. If they can't compete honestly, without our tax dollars to bolster them, why, why, why...

Not like they're giving it back, or helping customers with deep discounts.
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Why the hell are they getting ANY subs? They still owe us taxpayers 10 billion dollars.
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We should have let it fail in 2009. The screwed the bond holders big time. That was all Obummer
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Update: Mere moments after Larry Kudlow made it very clear just how disappointed and betrayed Trump felt by Mary Barra's layoff and plant shuttering announcement on Monday, the president tweeted that he is "very disappointed with General Motors and their CEO, Mary Barra, for closing plants in Ohio, Michigan and Maryland" even as nothing was being closed in Mexico & China. As a result, he is "now looking at cutting all GM subsidies, including for electric cars."

The reason for Trump's anger? "U.S. saved General Motors, and this is the THANKS we get!"

....for electric cars. General Motors made a big China bet years ago when they built plants there (and in Mexico) - don’t think that bet is going to pay off. I am here to protect America’s Workers!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2018

GM stock is sliding after Trump's tweet...
 Quoting: HO LEE FUKK


Good. They deserve it. The President ought to make the damn company pay back every tax dollar of the bailout they received also.

There is something just not right when taxpayer dollars save a companies ASS and that company gives the American taxpayer the finger and moves production overseas.

Pay back the money and move where ever the hell you want.
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Update: Mere moments after Larry Kudlow made it very clear just how disappointed and betrayed Trump felt by Mary Barra's layoff and plant shuttering announcement on Monday, the president tweeted that he is "very disappointed with General Motors and their CEO, Mary Barra, for closing plants in Ohio, Michigan and Maryland" even as nothing was being closed in Mexico & China. As a result, he is "now looking at cutting all GM subsidies, including for electric cars."

The reason for Trump's anger? "U.S. saved General Motors, and this is the THANKS we get!"

....for electric cars. General Motors made a big China bet years ago when they built plants there (and in Mexico) - don’t think that bet is going to pay off. I am here to protect America’s Workers!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2018

GM stock is sliding after Trump's tweet...
 Quoting: HO LEE FUKK


Good. They deserve it. The President ought to make the damn company pay back every tax dollar of the bailout they received also.

There is something just not right when taxpayer dollars save a companies ASS and that company gives the American taxpayer the finger and moves production overseas.

Pay back the money and move where ever the hell you want.
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Why the hell are they getting ANY subs? They still owe us taxpayers 10 billion dollars.
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I would LOVE an answer to this simple question, why is GM getting taxpayer SUBSIDIES????
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Probably the same reason the big oil companies get them...to keep them HERE.

So, if GM is leaving or moving production elsewhere, take their damn subsidies away.
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This pisses me off.

I have only had Silverado Duramax's my whole adult life.

Going to look at Ford and Dodge now..
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Dodge does not own or build the RAM pickup truck. Dodge sold RAM to FIAT (fix it again Tony)..

A Ford truck payment is about the size of a home mortgage now, and after 10 years, its worth 1/10th of what you paid for it.

Why invest in a depreciating asset? Buy an old Chevy truck and restore it. At least it will keep its value.

Idiots who buy $70k trucks are compensating for what they don't have. Ever seen the bumper sticker 'Nice Truck, sorry about your dick' ?
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Sure chrysler sold to fiat but nothing has changed in the production of the Ram truck. I work in the stamping plant immediately next door to the truck plant. You fail to realize that Ram is still an American product. Its built right here in Michigan. I make 7 different parts for the ram truck that immediately go next door to be built onto the truck. To say that its not American which im assuming is what you were trying to get at, is just not correct.

Btw, FCA brought plants back to the U.S.

I personally drive a ram, and i think its a great product. Ford makes a great truck and i think GM makes a really nice product.

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I agree.....stick it up GM’s ass. I will never but a GM vehicle
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This pisses me off.

I have only had Silverado Duramax's my whole adult life.

Going to look at Ford and Dodge now..
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Dodge does not own or build the RAM pickup truck. Dodge sold RAM to FIAT (fix it again Tony)..

A Ford truck payment is about the size of a home mortgage now, and after 10 years, its worth 1/10th of what you paid for it.

Why invest in a depreciating asset? Buy an old Chevy truck and restore it. At least it will keep its value.

Idiots who buy $70k trucks are compensating for what they don't have. Ever seen the bumper sticker 'Nice Truck, sorry about your dick' ?
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Sure chrysler sold to fiat but nothing has changed in the production of the Ram truck. I work in the stamping plant immediately next door to the truck plant. You fail to realize that Ram is still an American product. Its built right here in Michigan. I make 7 different parts for the ram truck that immediately go next door to be built onto the truck. To say that its not American which im assuming is what you were trying to get at, is just not correct.

Btw, FCA brought plants back to the U.S.

I personally drive a ram, and i think its a great product. Ford makes a great truck and i think GM makes a really nice product.
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Its a FIAT RAM, not a Dodge Ram. 'Dodge' is nowhere on the Ram truck anymore. Assembled in America, with lots of foreign parts.

But, hey if it works better than Viagra for you, then great!

When I got Ford certified, the Ram comparison in all categories was inferior. I owned a Ram once, and the gas mileage was worse than my big block Chevelle.

The depreciation on Ram trucks is massive. Since you're a Ram expert; What's the 36 month residual (in percentages on the 2018 models)?
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This pisses me off.

I have only had Silverado Duramax's my whole adult life.

Going to look at Ford and Dodge now..
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Dodge does not own or build the RAM pickup truck. Dodge sold RAM to FIAT (fix it again Tony)..

A Ford truck payment is about the size of a home mortgage now, and after 10 years, its worth 1/10th of what you paid for it.

Why invest in a depreciating asset? Buy an old Chevy truck and restore it. At least it will keep its value.

Idiots who buy $70k trucks are compensating for what they don't have. Ever seen the bumper sticker 'Nice Truck, sorry about your dick' ?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Sure chrysler sold to fiat but nothing has changed in the production of the Ram truck. I work in the stamping plant immediately next door to the truck plant. You fail to realize that Ram is still an American product. Its built right here in Michigan. I make 7 different parts for the ram truck that immediately go next door to be built onto the truck. To say that its not American which im assuming is what you were trying to get at, is just not correct.

Btw, FCA brought plants back to the U.S.

I personally drive a ram, and i think its a great product. Ford makes a great truck and i think GM makes a really nice product.
 Quoting: KNinjarydr


Its a FIAT RAM, not a Dodge Ram. 'Dodge' is nowhere on the Ram truck anymore. Assembled in America, with lots of foreign parts.

But, hey if it works better than Viagra for you, then great!

When I got Ford certified, the Ram comparison in all categories was inferior. I owned a Ram once, and the gas mileage was worse than my big block Chevelle.

The depreciation on Ram trucks is massive. Since you're a Ram expert; What's the 36 month residual (in percentages on the 2018 models)?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Like i stated sure fiat owns chrysler, but that doesnt negate the fact that the ram truck is still built here in the U.S. when it comes to outsourcing parts.. Guess what? Everyone does that. I think all parts should be made here but im just one asshole with an opinion. The entire body of the truck is made right here next door to the assembly plant. As for other parts i cant really speak of.

Better than viagra.. Wtf are you even talking about?

If were going to go tit for tat on which truck is inferior to which, ram has one of the lowest prices for the value. again, you say its a fiat ram... Fine again chrysler is owned by fiat, but the truck is built exactly the same way it was built when chrysler was the sole owner... Nothing has changed in that respect.

Prior to my 2019 truck, my 2016 v6 ram got me 19 miles to the gallon. Ill admit my 2019 with the v8 is not the greatest on gas at 15 miles to the gallon. With that said, here in michigan in the south east portion of the state it definitely seems to me that people are going with ram much more than the Competition. Im no expert in depreciation so im not going to comment onthat.

If you want to talk about toyota truck, ive heard mixed things on those too. My older brother owned a tundra and absolutely hated it. My younger brother right now owns a toyota truck and he isnt very pleased withit.

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Dodge does not own or build the RAM pickup truck. Dodge sold RAM to FIAT (fix it again Tony)..

A Ford truck payment is about the size of a home mortgage now, and after 10 years, its worth 1/10th of what you paid for it.

Why invest in a depreciating asset? Buy an old Chevy truck and restore it. At least it will keep its value.

Idiots who buy $70k trucks are compensating for what they don't have. Ever seen the bumper sticker 'Nice Truck, sorry about your dick' ?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Sure chrysler sold to fiat but nothing has changed in the production of the Ram truck. I work in the stamping plant immediately next door to the truck plant. You fail to realize that Ram is still an American product. Its built right here in Michigan. I make 7 different parts for the ram truck that immediately go next door to be built onto the truck. To say that its not American which im assuming is what you were trying to get at, is just not correct.

Btw, FCA brought plants back to the U.S.

I personally drive a ram, and i think its a great product. Ford makes a great truck and i think GM makes a really nice product.
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Its a FIAT RAM, not a Dodge Ram. 'Dodge' is nowhere on the Ram truck anymore. Assembled in America, with lots of foreign parts.

But, hey if it works better than Viagra for you, then great!

When I got Ford certified, the Ram comparison in all categories was inferior. I owned a Ram once, and the gas mileage was worse than my big block Chevelle.

The depreciation on Ram trucks is massive. Since you're a Ram expert; What's the 36 month residual (in percentages on the 2018 models)?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Like i stated sure fiat owns chrysler, but that doesnt negate the fact that the ram truck is still built here in the U.S. when it comes to outsourcing parts.. Guess what? Everyone does that. I think all parts should be made here but im just one asshole with an opinion. The entire body of the truck is made right here next door to the assembly plant. As for other parts i cant really speak of.

Better than viagra.. Wtf are you even talking about?

If were going to go tit for tat on which truck is inferior to which, ram has one of the lowest prices for the value.

Prior to my 2019 truck, my 2016 v6 ram got me 19 miles to the gallon. Ill admit my 2019 with the v8 is not the greatest on gas at 15 miles to the gallon. With that said, here in michigan in the south east portion of the state it definitely seems to me that people are going with ram much more than the Competition. Im no expert in depreciation so im not going to comment on that.
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So if FIAT (foreign owned manufacturer) assembles a vehicle in the USA with foreign components, it is 100% made in the USA.

Doesn't Toyota also assemble vehicles in the USA? Toyota and Fiat, American made - just like baseball and hotdogs..

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Sure chrysler sold to fiat but nothing has changed in the production of the Ram truck. I work in the stamping plant immediately next door to the truck plant. You fail to realize that Ram is still an American product. Its built right here in Michigan. I make 7 different parts for the ram truck that immediately go next door to be built onto the truck. To say that its not American which im assuming is what you were trying to get at, is just not correct.

Btw, FCA brought plants back to the U.S.

I personally drive a ram, and i think its a great product. Ford makes a great truck and i think GM makes a really nice product.
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Its a FIAT RAM, not a Dodge Ram. 'Dodge' is nowhere on the Ram truck anymore. Assembled in America, with lots of foreign parts.

But, hey if it works better than Viagra for you, then great!

When I got Ford certified, the Ram comparison in all categories was inferior. I owned a Ram once, and the gas mileage was worse than my big block Chevelle.

The depreciation on Ram trucks is massive. Since you're a Ram expert; What's the 36 month residual (in percentages on the 2018 models)?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Like i stated sure fiat owns chrysler, but that doesnt negate the fact that the ram truck is still built here in the U.S. when it comes to outsourcing parts.. Guess what? Everyone does that. I think all parts should be made here but im just one asshole with an opinion. The entire body of the truck is made right here next door to the assembly plant. As for other parts i cant really speak of.

Better than viagra.. Wtf are you even talking about?

If were going to go tit for tat on which truck is inferior to which, ram has one of the lowest prices for the value.

Prior to my 2019 truck, my 2016 v6 ram got me 19 miles to the gallon. Ill admit my 2019 with the v8 is not the greatest on gas at 15 miles to the gallon. With that said, here in michigan in the south east portion of the state it definitely seems to me that people are going with ram much more than the Competition. Im no expert in depreciation so im not going to comment on that.
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So if FIAT (foreign owned manufacturer) assembles a vehicle in the USA with foreign components, it is 100% made in the USA.

Doesn't Toyota also assemble vehicles in the USA? Toyota and Fiat, American made - just like baseball and hotdogs..

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you do realize that many of the parts are in fact made here in the U.S. right? You seem to think that everything is built off shores and only assembled here.. You are wrong. Certain parts that cannot be made here either due to cost or due to environmental aspects are in fact made overseas.. But many are made here. All sheet metal is stamped out here... Many small parts are outsourced to smaller manufacturing companies within the U.S. i worked at one prior to working with FCA.

There is Johnson Controls which manufactures various parts
Theres Bridgewater
Motor city stamping
Etc etc...

You dont live in michigan do you?

I once worked for a CNC manufacturer that made a certain part for almost all car companies.. And it was one single part.all they did was change the programming on the cnc.

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Its a FIAT RAM, not a Dodge Ram. 'Dodge' is nowhere on the Ram truck anymore. Assembled in America, with lots of foreign parts.

But, hey if it works better than Viagra for you, then great!

When I got Ford certified, the Ram comparison in all categories was inferior. I owned a Ram once, and the gas mileage was worse than my big block Chevelle.

The depreciation on Ram trucks is massive. Since you're a Ram expert; What's the 36 month residual (in percentages on the 2018 models)?
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Like i stated sure fiat owns chrysler, but that doesnt negate the fact that the ram truck is still built here in the U.S. when it comes to outsourcing parts.. Guess what? Everyone does that. I think all parts should be made here but im just one asshole with an opinion. The entire body of the truck is made right here next door to the assembly plant. As for other parts i cant really speak of.

Better than viagra.. Wtf are you even talking about?

If were going to go tit for tat on which truck is inferior to which, ram has one of the lowest prices for the value.

Prior to my 2019 truck, my 2016 v6 ram got me 19 miles to the gallon. Ill admit my 2019 with the v8 is not the greatest on gas at 15 miles to the gallon. With that said, here in michigan in the south east portion of the state it definitely seems to me that people are going with ram much more than the Competition. Im no expert in depreciation so im not going to comment on that.
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So if FIAT (foreign owned manufacturer) assembles a vehicle in the USA with foreign components, it is 100% made in the USA.

Doesn't Toyota also assemble vehicles in the USA? Toyota and Fiat, American made - just like baseball and hotdogs..

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 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


you do realize that many of the parts are in fact made here in the U.S. right? You seem to think that everything is built off shores and only assembled here.. You are wrong. Certain parts that cannot be made here either due to cost or due to environmental aspects are in fact made overseas.. But many are made here. All sheet metal is stamped out here... Many small parts are outsourced to smaller manufacturing companies within the U.S. i worked at one prior to working with FCA.

There is Johnson Controls which manufactures various parts
Theres Bridgewater
Motor city stamping
Etc etc...

You dont live in michigan do you?

I once worked for a CNC manufacturer that made a certain part for almost all car companies.. And it was one single part.all they did was change the programming on the cnc.
 Quoting: KNinjarydr


I was programming a dual head CNC in 1984. No, I would not live in Michigan for any amount of $.

I'd bet that all the PCB boards are made in China, and now have a 10% import tariff.

I almost bought a 4 speed Mustang GT until I saw the transmission was 'Made in China'.

Well at least your thin, pop-can grade exterior steel is made in the USA!

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Looks like NOW may be a good time for Ford to reconsider doing away with all cars as GM is going to hurt over this one ... GM car buyers need an alternative.
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I had an oil pump fail in one ford and lost the engine. had the paint blow off another ford. I'll never own another ford.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


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GM is making crappy vehicles. I used to like them in the 90s. My 2004 Tahoe had major electrical problems and I won’t buy another GM car. The AC was so messed up no one could fix it. The 4x4 would get stuck in cold weather and I would have to restart it to get it to engage. The tail lights were so messed up I had to run wires back to them.

My 2004 Ford F-150 is way better built. Stuff just works. Even Dodge is building better stuff lately and they used to be substandard. GM is going to have big problems going to Mexico. Volkswagen cars built in Mexico are crap too.
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GM is making crappy vehicles. I used to like them in the 90s. My 2004 Tahoe had major electrical problems and I won’t buy another GM car. The AC was so messed up no one could fix it. The 4x4 would get stuck in cold weather and I would have to restart it to get it to engage. The tail lights were so messed up I had to run wires back to them.

My 2004 Ford F-150 is way better built. Stuff just works. Even Dodge is building better stuff lately and they used to be substandard. GM is going to have big problems going to Mexico. Volkswagen cars built in Mexico are crap too.
 Quoting: Ned Flanders


The electrical problems are from aluminum clad copper wiring (instead of real copper, they use chinese made wires with a copper coating).

This is why Kia and Hyundai vehicles are now catching on fire presumably.

Saving $100 in cheap imitation copper sells more cars when the old ones die from wire corrosion at the contacts, and fire producing heat from the resistance when the connections get some electrolytic built-up corrosion.

Gotta love that cheap wire though! Wow, what a price!


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