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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
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like, that's gonna take Putin by surprise.
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

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No.
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
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No.
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Sea of Azov is too shallow for NATO warships
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Eastern Europe made a mistake alligning with NATO and the eu. They would have been more wise to stick with mother Russia for economic and millitary cooperation.
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Hahaha yes we know that especially after many years of so called cooperation after IIWW till 1989 which gave only poverty and depression.

Geeez....
 Quoting: outofspace


Think of it as part of a growing process. After WW2 we all had to go through rebirth. Is wealth really most important thing?

We were never thought "euro guilt", west has been cucked in 70 years after the war, cucked and mixed since 50's. Red army made sure that never happened in the east. Not intentionally but in the west it was done intentionally. I guarantee you you would be much worse today if red army never came and Brits and Americans would liberate Poland. You would have 3000euro paycheck though per month, if you desire that so much then you'd be better.

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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
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No.
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Peace through strength
I stand strong for my ideals.
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
[link to www.atlanticcouncil.org]
 Quoting: elcondor


No.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Peace through strength
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NATO warships are unable to enter the Sea of Azov,it is too shallow for warships
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
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No.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Peace through strength
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NATO warships are unable to enter the Sea of Azov,it is too shallow for warships
 Quoting: elcondor


or, in other words: they don't have a plan.

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Eastern Europe made a mistake alligning with NATO and the eu. They would have been more wise to stick with mother Russia for economic and millitary cooperation.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder



Hahaha yes we know that especially after many years of so called cooperation after IIWW till 1989 which gave only poverty and depression.

Geeez....
 Quoting: outofspace


Think of it as part of a growing process. After WW2 we all had to go through rebirth. Is wealth really most important thing?

We were never thought "euro guilt", west has been cucked in 70 years after the war, cucked and mixed since 50's. Red army made sure that never happened in the east. Not intentionally but in the west it was done intentionally. I guarantee you you would be much worse today if red army never came and Brits and Americans would liberate Poland. You would have 3000euro paycheck though per month, if you desire that so much then you'd be better.
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I would still prefer Americans than Soviets.Soviets ruined Poland for almost few decades.It were same Soviets than invaded Poland in 1939 and shoot Polish officers in head.Poland shouldn't be anyone pet neither Russian or American
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Eastern Europe made a mistake alligning with NATO and the eu. They would have been more wise to stick with mother Russia for economic and millitary cooperation.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder



Hahaha yes we know that especially after many years of so called cooperation after IIWW till 1989 which gave only poverty and depression.

Geeez....
 Quoting: outofspace


Think of it as part of a growing process. After WW2 we all had to go through rebirth. Is wealth really most important thing?

We were never thought "euro guilt", west has been cucked in 70 years after the war, cucked and mixed since 50's. Red army made sure that never happened in the east. Not intentionally but in the west it was done intentionally. I guarantee you you would be much worse today if red army never came and Brits and Americans would liberate Poland. You would have 3000euro paycheck though per month, if you desire that so much then you'd be better.
 Quoting: Yanez


I would still prefer Americans than Soviets.Soviets ruined Poland for almost few decades.It were same Soviets than invaded Poland in 1939 and shoot Polish officers in head.Poland shouldn't be anyone pet neither Russian or American
 Quoting: Kek the Winged Hussar


I agree, its adulthood time now, be free don't invite Americans in, thats first mistake. Poland is strong and confident enough, you don't need Americans to protect you and Germans are not nazis anymore as Russians aren't Soviets.
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Eastern Europe made a mistake alligning with NATO and the eu. They would have been more wise to stick with mother Russia for economic and millitary cooperation.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder



Hahaha yes we know that especially after many years of so called cooperation after IIWW till 1989 which gave only poverty and depression.

Geeez....
 Quoting: outofspace


Think of it as part of a growing process. After WW2 we all had to go through rebirth. Is wealth really most important thing?

We were never thought "euro guilt", west has been cucked in 70 years after the war, cucked and mixed since 50's. Red army made sure that never happened in the east. Not intentionally but in the west it was done intentionally. I guarantee you you would be much worse today if red army never came and Brits and Americans would liberate Poland. You would have 3000euro paycheck though per month, if you desire that so much then you'd be better.
 Quoting: Yanez


I would still prefer Americans than Soviets.Soviets ruined Poland for almost few decades.It were same Soviets than invaded Poland in 1939 and shoot Polish officers in head.Poland shouldn't be anyone pet neither Russian or American
 Quoting: Kek the Winged Hussar


nobody cares about Poland. don't flatter yourselves.
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Hahaha yes we know that especially after many years of so called cooperation after IIWW till 1989 which gave only poverty and depression.

Geeez....
 Quoting: outofspace


Think of it as part of a growing process. After WW2 we all had to go through rebirth. Is wealth really most important thing?

We were never thought "euro guilt", west has been cucked in 70 years after the war, cucked and mixed since 50's. Red army made sure that never happened in the east. Not intentionally but in the west it was done intentionally. I guarantee you you would be much worse today if red army never came and Brits and Americans would liberate Poland. You would have 3000euro paycheck though per month, if you desire that so much then you'd be better.
 Quoting: Yanez


I would still prefer Americans than Soviets.Soviets ruined Poland for almost few decades.It were same Soviets than invaded Poland in 1939 and shoot Polish officers in head.Poland shouldn't be anyone pet neither Russian or American
 Quoting: Kek the Winged Hussar


nobody cares about Poland. don't flatter yourselves.
 Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter


Poland is slowly becoming more important ally for USA then Brits. That alone says a lot.

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Porky just doesn't quit does he?

KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
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KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
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The old orthodoxy cares that a certain basilica in Istanbul has painted over Christ on the cupola.
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Porky wanted martial law to make stupid changes like this to provoke vwar wirth Russia. Watch, he'll pull crap everyday now.
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Porky is going to full around and no longer have a country to govern because it won't exsist anymore in the near future. He is playing a losing game.

His people hate him and so does Russia.

And NATO and the eu won't come to his rescue.
What are the facts?
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KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Not the Russian Orthodox Church, but the Ukrainian Orthodox Church Moscow Patriarchate. Problem is the Kiev government wants to hijack Ukrainian Orthodox Churches and monasteries (of the Moscow patr.) and hand it over to a new Ukrainian Orthodox Church with the patriarchate in Kiev. The hijacking of the churches will happen violently with the help of neo-nazi thugs.

The Russian Orthodox Church was "born" in Kiev, after Mongol invasion it moved it's "headquarters" to Moscow.

After Ukrainian independence from Soviet Union, the Russian Orthodox Church (in Ukraine) was renamed to Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate. The fascist Banderists want to take away churches and monasteries from the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine and hand it over to an illegal Church (the Kiev patriarchate), which is not recognized by the Eastern Orthodox Churches around the globe.
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Porky is going to full around and no longer have a country to govern because it won't exsist anymore in the near future. He is playing a losing game.

His people hate him and so does Russia.

And NATO and the eu won't come to his rescue.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


you are right, he is not popular there and cares not how many of his subject die...his only hope is Western military support so he holds the country in emergency state as long as possible.
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Porky is going to full around and no longer have a country to govern because it won't exsist anymore in the near future. He is playing a losing game.

His people hate him and so does Russia.

And NATO and the eu won't come to his rescue.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


you are right, he is not popular there and cares not how many of his subject die...his only hope is Western military support so he holds the country in emergency state as long as possible.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


I think Ukraine will split in 3 or 4 parts on it's own: The "Hungarian" part of Ukraine, the Western Ukraine, Middle Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine.
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KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Its so funny, they read one bible, "worship" one God and they hate each other? religion is poisonous and evil
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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
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Sanctions were typical back then, too. (NWO)
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KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Its so funny, they read one bible, "worship" one God and they hate each other? religion is poisonous and evil
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Porky is cutting cultural ties, thats the only motive.
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KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s president says the Constantinople patriarchy has approved a decree granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Ukrainian church has formally been under the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who is expected to seek re-election next year, has been portraying an independent church as one of his major goals.

The Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church strongly oppose the move.


My question is, why would Russia care?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Its so funny, they read one bible, "worship" one God and they hate each other? religion is poisonous and evil
 Quoting: Cyclist13


Difference is, the "New Church" is backed by Uniates (catholics) and Nazi's (the Banderists) and we all know Nazi's are into occultism and are Satanic in origin, see the documentary on nazi occultism [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Problem is the Kiev government wants to hijack Ukrainian Orthodox Churches and monasteries (of the Moscow patr.) and hand it over to a new Ukrainian Orthodox Church with the patriarchate in Kiev. The hijacking of the churches is happening violently with the help of neo-nazi thugs.

The Russian Orthodox Church was "born" in Kiev, after Mongol invasion it moved it's "headquarters" (patriarchate) to Moscow.

After Ukrainian independence from Soviet Union, the Russian Orthodox Church (in Ukraine) was renamed to Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate. The fascist Banderists want to take away churches and monasteries from the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine and hand it over to an illegal Church (the Kiev patriarchate), which is not recognized by the Eastern Orthodox Churches around the globe.
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Porky is going to full around and no longer have a country to govern because it won't exsist anymore in the near future. He is playing a losing game.

His people hate him and so does Russia.

And NATO and the eu won't come to his rescue.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


you are right, he is not popular there and cares not how many of his subject die...his only hope is Western military support so he holds the country in emergency state as long as possible.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


I think Ukraine will split in 3 or 4 parts on it's own: The "Hungarian" part of Ukraine, the Western Ukraine, Middle Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: elcondor


"Hungarian" Part actually consists of Hungarian ,Romanian and Polish. Eastern is mostly pro - Russian. Middle is mixed. Western elements always wanted independent existence.
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Porky is going to full around and no longer have a country to govern because it won't exsist anymore in the near future. He is playing a losing game.

His people hate him and so does Russia.

And NATO and the eu won't come to his rescue.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


you are right, he is not popular there and cares not how many of his subject die...his only hope is Western military support so he holds the country in emergency state as long as possible.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


I think Ukraine will split in 3 or 4 parts on it's own: The "Hungarian" part of Ukraine, the Western Ukraine, Middle Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: elcondor


"Hungarian" Part actually consists of Hungarian ,Romanian and Polish. Eastern is mostly pro - Russian. Middle is mixed. Western elements always wanted independent existence.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


Putin is already well on his way to taking Eastern and
Southern Ukraine (including Odessa)
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you are right, he is not popular there and cares not how many of his subject die...his only hope is Western military support so he holds the country in emergency state as long as possible.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


I think Ukraine will split in 3 or 4 parts on it's own: The "Hungarian" part of Ukraine, the Western Ukraine, Middle Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: elcondor


"Hungarian" Part actually consists of Hungarian ,Romanian and Polish. Eastern is mostly pro - Russian. Middle is mixed. Western elements always wanted independent existence.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


Putin is already well on his way to taking Eastern and
Southern Ukraine (including Odessa)
 Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter



False Flag Sniper attack on the Maidan, Georgian Snipers admit they were hired to do a False Flag operation: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Kiev SNIPERS hired by NEW COALITION, not Yanukovych -- Estonian Foreign Minister to Ashton (leaked phone conv): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland Admits (while the Maidan riots were taking place) Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation(she is midwiving the new Kiev government): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Hacked Emails Expose George Soros As Ukraine Puppet-Master" [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

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No.
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Sea of Azov is too shallow for NATO warships
 Quoting: elcondor


Yep..not all freighters could enter even before bridge was constructed.
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I think Ukraine will split in 3 or 4 parts on it's own: The "Hungarian" part of Ukraine, the Western Ukraine, Middle Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: elcondor


"Hungarian" Part actually consists of Hungarian ,Romanian and Polish. Eastern is mostly pro - Russian. Middle is mixed. Western elements always wanted independent existence.
 Quoting: gerard _duval


Putin is already well on his way to taking Eastern and
Southern Ukraine (including Odessa)
 Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter



False Flag Sniper attack on the Maidan, Georgian Snipers admit they were hired to do a False Flag operation: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Kiev SNIPERS hired by NEW COALITION, not Yanukovych -- Estonian Foreign Minister to Ashton (leaked phone conv): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland Admits (while the Maidan riots were taking place) Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation(she is midwiving the new Kiev government): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Hacked Emails Expose George Soros As Ukraine Puppet-Master" [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
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Youtube as proof? I love glp.
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UKRAINIAN MEDIA CLAIM NEW GROM-2 MISSILE SYSTEM ‘CAN STRIKE MOSCOW’

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