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Pneumati tou Stomatos
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

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 Quoting: elcondor


No.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Peace through strength
 Quoting: Fight The Power


No, peace through Slavic hugging.
Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14
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False Flag Sniper attack on the Maidan, Georgian Snipers admit they were hired to do a False Flag operation: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Kiev SNIPERS hired by NEW COALITION, not Yanukovych -- Estonian Foreign Minister to Ashton (leaked phone conv): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland Admits (while the Maidan riots were taking place) Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation(she is midwiving the new Kiev government): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Hacked Emails Expose George Soros As Ukraine Puppet-Master" [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
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Won't happen. Ukraine is not a member of NATO and Turkey is getting pretty friendly with Russia at the moment.

Ukraine is just again showing how little pull they have on the world stage.

Sad to be honest. Spent a good amount of time there and the Western areas really do not like to be associated in anyway with Russia. Most a good, honest, hard working people.
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Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

source: NATO thinktank
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 Quoting: elcondor


No.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Peace through strength
 Quoting: Fight The Power


No, peace through Slavic hugging.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


What about power greedy cockroaches in between. They like to be hugged too. cruise
You can handle the truth at your own risk.
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No.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Peace through strength
 Quoting: Fight The Power


No, peace through Slavic hugging.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


What about power greedy cockroaches in between. They like to be hugged too. cruise
 Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo


They can go hug George Soros and cry together.
Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14
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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


No, the Japanese were over extending on their empire couldn't keep up with the Oil demand, and then through a fit when they we strangled, keep in mind what the Japanese were doing to the people of the countries they took over.
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to follow
so many steps have brought us here
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Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

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Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

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ohreally
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Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

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They aren't neo-Nazis, they're nazi-Nazis, as in literal old school Nazis.
Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14
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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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 Quoting: elcondor


Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


No, the Japanese were over extending on their empire couldn't keep up with the Oil demand, and then through a fit when they we strangled, keep in mind what the Japanese were doing to the people of the countries they took over.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Really? I remember it differently. Include your links for discussion.

What sanctions did the US put on Japan?
Responding to Japanese occupation of key airfields in Indochina (July 24) following an agreement between Japan and Vichy France, the U.S. froze Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and on August 1 established an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan.


Why did Roosevelt place embargoes on Japan?

On this day in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. On July 24, Tokyo decided to strengthen its position in terms of its invasion of China by moving through Southeast Asia.


What events led to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
1937.
July: Japan invades North China from Manchuria.
1940.
July: U.S. imposes trade sanctions, followed by an embargo, aimed at curbing Japan's military aggression in Asia.

1941.
January: Adm. Yamamoto begins communicating with other Japanese officers about a possible attack on Pearl Harbor.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]

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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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If/when they do that, don't attack the force in the strait. Set free your other assets within the agressors countries. Have the citizens of that nation do your work for you.
(ala Vietnam) Just speed up the plan so it doesn't go as long.

Last Edited by WEDGE5th on 11/29/2018 04:21 PM
“Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.” Josey Wales
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Closing of Bosphorus Strait for Russian ships discussed at NATO HQ

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 Quoting: elcondor


Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


No, the Japanese were over extending on their empire couldn't keep up with the Oil demand, and then through a fit when they we strangled, keep in mind what the Japanese were doing to the people of the countries they took over.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Really? I remember it differently. Include your links for discussion.

What sanctions did the US put on Japan?
Responding to Japanese occupation of key airfields in Indochina (July 24) following an agreement between Japan and Vichy France, the U.S. froze Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and on August 1 established an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan.


Why did Roosevelt place embargoes on Japan?

On this day in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. On July 24, Tokyo decided to strengthen its position in terms of its invasion of China by moving through Southeast Asia.


What events led to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
1937.
July: Japan invades North China from Manchuria.
1940.
July: U.S. imposes trade sanctions, followed by an embargo, aimed at curbing Japan's military aggression in Asia.

1941.
January: Adm. Yamamoto begins communicating with other Japanese officers about a possible attack on Pearl Harbor.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


Literally everything you stated above is saying Japan struck out first and the US responded wih embargo and sanctions.
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what happened ?!?!?..i forgot to refresh the page obama9
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Isn't it kinda like how the Japs were squeezed into WWII with the denial of raw materials for their industry?
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


No, the Japanese were over extending on their empire couldn't keep up with the Oil demand, and then through a fit when they we strangled, keep in mind what the Japanese were doing to the people of the countries they took over.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Really? I remember it differently. Include your links for discussion.

What sanctions did the US put on Japan?
Responding to Japanese occupation of key airfields in Indochina (July 24) following an agreement between Japan and Vichy France, the U.S. froze Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and on August 1 established an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan.


Why did Roosevelt place embargoes on Japan?

On this day in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. On July 24, Tokyo decided to strengthen its position in terms of its invasion of China by moving through Southeast Asia.


What events led to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
1937.
July: Japan invades North China from Manchuria.
1940.
July: U.S. imposes trade sanctions, followed by an embargo, aimed at curbing Japan's military aggression in Asia.

1941.
January: Adm. Yamamoto begins communicating with other Japanese officers about a possible attack on Pearl Harbor.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


Literally everything you stated above is saying Japan struck out first and the US responded wih embargo and sanctions.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Start showing the posters here where Japan struck out at us first before Pearl Harbor? You can't!

We do not and never gave a shit about Indo-China, I grew up here. How much pro indo-china stuff is there? None. Oh, sorry there was that Vietnam (Police Action) war.

You back your claims up with nothing.

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No, the Japanese were over extending on their empire couldn't keep up with the Oil demand, and then through a fit when they we strangled, keep in mind what the Japanese were doing to the people of the countries they took over.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Really? I remember it differently. Include your links for discussion.

What sanctions did the US put on Japan?
Responding to Japanese occupation of key airfields in Indochina (July 24) following an agreement between Japan and Vichy France, the U.S. froze Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and on August 1 established an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan.


Why did Roosevelt place embargoes on Japan?

On this day in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. On July 24, Tokyo decided to strengthen its position in terms of its invasion of China by moving through Southeast Asia.


What events led to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
1937.
July: Japan invades North China from Manchuria.
1940.
July: U.S. imposes trade sanctions, followed by an embargo, aimed at curbing Japan's military aggression in Asia.

1941.
January: Adm. Yamamoto begins communicating with other Japanese officers about a possible attack on Pearl Harbor.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


Literally everything you stated above is saying Japan struck out first and the US responded wih embargo and sanctions.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Start showing the posters here where Japan struck out at us first before Pearl Harbor? You can't!

We do not and never gave a shit about Indo-China, I grew up here. How much pro indo-china stuff is there? None. Oh, sorry there was that Vietnam (Police Action) war.

You back your claims up with nothing.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's not a claim and you've backed up everything I said.
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bump
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Uber-loser Poroshenko goes “full Saakashvili”

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Intelligence agency of Ukraine searching Kiev Pechersk monastery and the home of a senior Russian Orthodox cleric for inciting hatred.

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Moscow is concerned that civil conflict may break out in the whole of Ukraine following the declaration of martial law.

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Kiev patriarch says Orthodox Church and Vatican should work together.The patriarch does not believe unification of the two churches is realistic today, but it is “desirable” and greater cooperation is possible.

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Moscow is concerned that civil conflict may break out in the whole of Ukraine following the declaration of martial law.

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Can't see that happening myself...

Unless Russia pushes the buttons
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Moscow is concerned that civil conflict may break out in the whole of Ukraine following the declaration of martial law.

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Can't see that happening myself...

Unless Russia pushes the buttons
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Sure.. Russia is pushing the buttons while the Kiev government is hijacking churches and monasteries from russian-speaking Ukrainians, with help from neo-nazi mobs that are attacking churches and monasteries, and handing them over to an illegal church accepted by the Kiev government and backed by the Vatican and Banderists.
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Uber-loser Poroshenko goes “full Saakashvili”

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"The plan is secret"

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Ukraine Prepares For WAR – Starts Repairing Military Aircraft, Under Martial Law

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Ukraine Prepares For WAR – Starts Repairing Military Aircraft, Under Martial Law

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"repairing military aircraft". that's a good start... thumbs
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I had also read yesterday that Ukraine was busy digging trenches, awaiting a Russian ground assault.

So the question is... if Russia indeed starts a large ground offensive press into Ukraine, when will it likely come ?
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I had also read yesterday that Ukraine was busy digging trenches, awaiting a Russian ground assault.

So the question is... if Russia indeed starts a large ground offensive press into Ukraine, when will it likely come ?
 Quoting: AC.GLP


it't won't take much.

Putin's already got huge Forces in place in Crimea,
and his first target is going to be Southern Ukraine.
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Ukraine closes border to Russian men of combat age, citing invasion fears

Ukrainian officials on Friday upped the ante in the growing confrontation with Russia, announcing a travel ban for most Russian males and searching the home of an influential cleric of the Russian Orthodox Church.

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Russia is gathering tanks on our border, says Ukraine, as it activates sweeping martial law powers

Ukraine's president has said that Russia is gathering tanks on its border as the conflict between the two countries escalates and Ukraine activates its sweeping martial law powers to "protect" its border.

President Petro Poroshenko told Sky News that he has evidence that Russian military tanks are amassing along the country's border.


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