Half of all people admitted for drug treatment worldwide is for Cannabis

its why weve never won a war against afghanis and no one else has either. Because that is where it is produced.

No?

This Rx addled joker has been posting this nonsense nonstop. I am not sure what is up with Brits and their hate of weed, but it may have something to do with them being uptight wankers. Either way OP you are full of pharmaceuticals and crap. Your "scientific opinion" is very misinformed.

Because he, and everyone else likes them so much, were they to dissapear, he would do ANYTHING damn near to get em.

Ive never heard of anyone sucking cock because they ran out of weed...

Unless they like sucking cock.

Like the op blows the dr. and the pharma..then tells everyone else how sorry they should feel for him.

While it is probably the ONE thing that could actually help.
and is exactly why its illegal.

$$$$$$ like always.

Suboxone is what you need op. Seeing how you like the drugs anyhow...It shouldnt be to hard for you to tell your dr your a junkie and hes a drug dealer.

The price on the drs heroin is pretty good though right>
Even if you cant afford they will give them to you.

What does that tell you.

That they feel compassion for you?

Who is psychotic in this picture?

Lol yep, thats what they tell ya.
Then hook you.

For life.

Like you are.

Unless of course you were to take my solid advice..

Which you wont because taking the pills is the same as abusing them

Mmhmm.

Had you not found a dr. Would you have gone to the street to find heroin?
No.

Theres no need, your "dr" has it.
See how that works?

Arent you going to respond with something other than

"I hurt and need my heroines"

and "you dont understand!!!!???"

Sure I do.

I already told you.

My spinal cord was being slowly severed, also due to their "help"

<opiate free and no reason you cant be other than you

DONT

WANT

TO.

"are you a thread killer?"
hes right ewe know

its a drug

and people are clearly addicted

they cant even recognize the addiction

LOL again people and their "opinions". Just because you have one, does not mean it is based in reality.

You know what? I have not logged into this forum in... gee, it has to be ten years, or darned close. I wasn't even able to recover my password (that function seems to be broken) so I had to create a new account, which I told myself I would NOT do.

But you are just so willfully ignorant, self-blinded, stupid, and just outright LYING that I couldn't bear it any more.

I don't care what your personal choices are... it's a shame that you're addicted to narcotics, but I won't judge you for that. WHy? Because my wife ALSO suffers from chronic debilitating pain, due to neurocerebral damage in a car accident which, among other things, damaged the pain center in her brain. when she's particularly sensitive, I may as well punch her as tap her on the shoulder - it's essentially the same sensation to her. She was put on permanent disability.

Would you like to know what meds she takes? YOU thought I would say Cannabis - but no. It. in fact, sensitizes her, making it worse, so she does not use it. She takes... nothing. The odd ibuprofen for the head pains / headaches. but that's it. And though put on permanent disability years ago, she chose instead to go back to work, so that her (and subsequently our) quality of life would be better. Luckily, I've been able to ensure that she no longer has to work, though she still keeps busy.

SO, yeah, I can't say your whinging about your chronic pain gets any sympathy from me. Respect? Sure, I definitely respect what you're suffering through - but it's not a license for you to lie, cherry pick studies supported by big pharma and ALSO not "peer-reviewed," as you brought up, but paid - for - publish by narcotics pushers.

Oh, and as for your assertion about no peer-reviewed studies?


Excerpt from "Medicinal Cannabis: The Evidence," published 2015:

"Published, peer-reviewed studies and clinical trials

PubMed references over 20,000 published studies or reviews under the search terms cannabis,cannabinoid or marijuana, nearly half of which were published within the last five years. (1)

By comparison, few pharmaceutical medicine s are tested in multiple, large-scale clinical trials or have thousands of years of actual experience behind them. A recent analysis showed that in the USA about a third of pharmaceutical medicines won approval on the
basis of a single clinical trial and many trials were of very few subjects over a short duration. (2)

It is also now well established that both in the USA and UK, pharmaceutical companies cherry pick trial data for licence/marketing authorisation applications. (3,4)

The reality, therefore, is a massive amount of evidenceon cannabis, which supports its relative safety
when used as medicine to a far more rigorous and comprehensive standard than for most pharmaceutical products.
Archaeological evidence also indicates that
mankind has been using psychoactive cannabis for at least 10,000 years.(5)

Recorded history first documents psychoactive cannabis approximately 5,000 years ago.(6)"

Source: [link to www.bmj.com (secure)]

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So as you can see, it's obvious to anyone that uses simple critical thinking that you are either, as I said, willfully ignorant or absolutely deceitful. My personal belief is the latter, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt - not that it matters, one is nearly as bad as the other.

I won't say I could care less what you put in your body, but that's not true... I hate to see anyone poison themselves with narcotics, but if that's what you choose, so be it, and power to you. However, I absolutely will NOT respect ignorance, and proliferating ignorance, due to whatever bad experience or lies you may have suffered in the past.

Cannabis is no more addictive than ice cream (again, read the studies - no physically addicting chemicals in the terpenes and cannabinoids produced by cannabis, unlike the "synthetic" TCH brought to you by the purveyors of YOUR very addictive narcotics)but, as anything, an addictive personality with a weak mind can get addicted to the sensation... much like an adrenaline junky, food addict, etc.

Marijuana is not dangerous in and of itself, you CANNOT "overdose" on marijuana (physically impossible for our receptors to take in more than a set amount of cannabinoids none of which are harmful even at MUCH higher levels)and the effects of cannabis are DIRECTLY counter to EVERY study you show (which by the way quote ANECDOTAL evidence of third party reports, none of which ever address that any safety issues are EXTERNAL to the use of cannabis - the result of HUMAN ACTION, not marijuana, 100% of the time.

Can people intoxicated on cannabis do silly, dangerous things? Of course they can. Now, how about you do some research of your OWN for a change, and get some REAL facts on how many deaths occur WORLDWIDE that are directly related to cannabis use... I'm fine with car accidents, walking off of a cliff stoned, party gone out of hand and people injured - whatever, I'll accept those as RESULTS of intoxication. Then you find me those SAME numbers related to narcotic use, licit or illicit. Then alchohol use. Then simply automobile operation. Then WORK - RELATED injuries, but to make it less painful for you, focus JUST on North America (yes, I'll let you include us evil legalized Canadians.)

But you won't do that, will you? Because you already know that the numbers, and the FACTS, are on my side. While I could quote a bunch of anecdotal evidence... I have no NEED to do so. the ACTUAL work has been done already by the scientific community, and it really doesn't care about your "opinions and feels." Facts are simply that, and you can't change them with fervent belief and propaganda.

I know you won't listen, or give up on your abjectly stupid crusade... but I guess a bored, narcotic - addled mind only has so many outlets. I suppose we should just feel guilty that you didn't choose something else to rail against, like women or pandas.

It's sad that you've chosen (yes, CHOSEN) to make your life what it is... I truly hope that you choose to make it different, and better - from the sounds of things it couldn't be much worse. And don't bother with telling us "I can't, it's a chronic issue, I'm a victim of circumstance..." the VICTIM part would be the only correct part. I LIVE with proof of what you can CHOOSE to do - maybe one day you'll decide to own your life again, instead of allowing some doctors and addictions own it for you.

Interesting... been there!

Spiral fracture due to lifting compression - doc told me 5 years max to the wheelchair.

ALSO told me that narcs were not a good choice (family doc for years) and that while it was not his LEGAL opinion, and "alternative herbologist" was probably my best bet. Also was told I could never work lifting more than 5LB or sitting for more than 10 minutes at a time for the rest of my mobility.

Well, here I am 20 years later... 2 inches shorter, but back healed (though that was "impossible" according to 2 surgeons)and having had jobs ranging from heavy truck warehouse manager, head of receiving for Home Depot, and now 10 years of IT work at a desk 10 hrs / day. No pain from that injury, though some issues stemming from it, mostly sciatic.

AND I never decided to become a REGULAR user, though recreationally over the years the odd time, until I recently made a decision for sleep and pain cessation to start vaping, as I quit smoking years ago and don't like smoke (primarily for sleep.) SO a good 2 hits of a solid indica, and bedtime daily.

Hmm... maybe I should switch to an addictive poison that I can pay a ton for to enrich pharmacies that survive by NOT healing you of your issues, just masking them in a haze of stupid?

This guy is a crank - I couldn't stay quiet any longer.

Cannabis causes SERIOUS mental health problems like phsychosis, paranoia and schizophrenia in 1 IN 2 chronic users.

My body may be knackered and I need painkillers but I ain't fucking up my head with cannabis becuase I value my sanity thanks, its all I got.

Technically speaking by definition any Chemical consumed into the body is a Drug. And since everything is made up of Chemicals, everything you consume into your body is a Drug. It doesn't matter if it's Psychoactive or not as all Drugs have Physiological effects on the body. Therefore people can literally become addicted to anything. Just the facts...

"Most people who smoke pot enjoy it, but a smaller proportion experience psychotic-like symptoms, such as feeling suspicious or paranoid. The question that polarises researchers is whether smoking cannabis is associated with a risk of developing psychotic problems, such as schizophrenia, in the long term.

Of course, cannabis use is common, while schizophrenia is relatively rare, affecting less than 1 per cent of the population. Even if cannabis use were to double the risk, over 98 per cent of cannabis users would not develop schizophrenia. Researchers have to tread carefully in evaluating the evidence and avoiding scaremongering.

Although several studies suggest that cannabis users have a higher risk of developing schizophrenia, one key point remains hotly contested. Since the 1960s, cannabis potency and rates of use have risen in many Western countries with high-potency strains now dominating the market.
Read more

Boy with rare epilepsy could be given illegal medical cannabis

If cannabis were a cause of psychosis, we would expect that, as this increased, rates of schizophrenia would increase alongside it. But this has not happened."

[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]
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Based on a peer-reviewed study by two British scientists NOT in the employ of pharma, there is NO direct and correlating evidence of schizophrenia being caused by cannabis use. The likelihood that the correlation has stemmed from the timing of onset of schizophrenia in late teens, around the same time as recreational marijuana use usually starts, cannot be ignored... except by deluded people such as yourself.

On the other hand... there is solid evidence after clinical blind studies to show that cannabis use can assist in controlling and mitigating bipolar - a mental disorder which is FAR more prevalent than schizophrenia.

See where this is going? You can spew stupidity all you like, but it doesn't work - and in fact you look FOOLISH when you have to deal with someone that actually LIKES to do REAL research. :)

I almost feel sorry for you. It's ok, I know it;s hard to focus while taking that nasty poison you use.

HEY.. you should check out the raft of peer-reviewed studies that prove specific use of certain strains of marijuana can and does actually ASSIST in mental clarity and focus, and is an excellent aid to focusing and completing tasks, such as research and data extrapolation.

I know, right?

You are no where near sane...

What was your doctorate in to make this clinical diagnosis?

Yup, before I had to stop (work related) I made some canna-caramels. 20 minutes after ingesting one piece my arthritic pain was much subdued.

I do take CBD oil or gummies now (no THC), and that does not help me with arthritis pain. It's very good for a kickass night of sleep, though.

The OP had issues with cannabis, and now he's on a hugely fruitless mission to demonize it...

I don't think that's a particularly fair question... I assume YOU also have a Ph.D in order to keep asserting the things that you do? And don't start with "they're always backed up," because although you occasionally quote a suspect article, you ALSO ramble on with your baseless convictions. As such, I'd say anyone else's opinions are fair game... you expect people to accept YOURS, and all it is IS opinion, so... yeah.

Plus, I notice how brave you are to answer things of that nature, but how cowardly you are when it comes to actually refuting well thought out refutations, backed by PEER-REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC STUDIES.

Still waiting for a SINGLE cogent response - though I guess it's not fair to expect that from someone that chooses heavy narcotics. Sorry to have expectations that someone making hefty accusations actually back them. Silly of me I suppose.

My wife had our neighbour (a younger lady) try a CBD tincture, as while her husband smokes a LOT, she (like my wife) is unable (well, not what he smokes anyways.) She suffers from anxiety, and some onflammation issues. Well, for her, the CBD works for the inflammation pain as well as the anxiety and sleep. I'm sorry you don't have the same experience.

Tell me, have you tried a 4:1 or 8:1 tincture with CBD / THC? If not, please do look up the "Entourage Effect..." there's strong documentation showing that the cannabinoids in marijuana are FAR more effective when combined than individually, and a small amount of THC, not enough to be psychoactive, enhances the analgesic and relaxation effects of CBD.

I'm unable to test THC positive due to my job....I drive Medicaid patients to their long run/out of town appts., and Medicaid is a Federal program. No tokie, no nibble-nibble for me.

Once I retire I'll again make my own edibles...

I do also take kickass supplements for the pain in my back, it's just I have to take more now ....like, five turmeric capsules a day - that's 5,510 mg. of curcuminoids - 10 mg. of Anstaxathin (red micro algae from Hawaii), and 200 mg. of SAMe, to control the pain. This combo works pretty well for me so far. I am up to five turmeric a day, compared to 3 a day before the winter chill set in. None of the above are cheap, per se, and I have to pay for that myself, but it's worth it.

...so much better than getting hooked on opiods.

Thank you for your post, though....

What's up junky!? Trying to sell pills again today?

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that you're in so much pain, but I'm glad you've found ways to mitigate it. As I'm in Canada, THC is no longer an issue, and frankly hasn't been in most sectors for years. Plus, I work from home, so even less so for me, though I've only recently returned to using cannabis. I was initially taking 1:1 CBD / THC pills, but I find that edibles aren't consistent for me, too many variables for me to be able to control the effect and timing, along with having less control over the strain. What I need for my particular issues (difficulty slowing the mind and falling asleep, arthritic pain in hands, sciatic pain) is an indica with high myrcene such as Chemo or Northern Lights, and vaping that will allow me to target the effects I want (different terpenes melt at different temps) so that I can target sleep and pain relief, without burning EVERYTHING and getting stupid.

Here's to hoping that your pain fades and leaves you be!

I have never.

It shouldn't count if they were forced to go there by courts/law/probation officer.

Still answer personal attacks and junk but refuse to acknowledge those that are presenting fact and reason to prove you wrong? Typical. I actually thought you were possibly an honestly misinformed, manipulated individual - narcotics make it easy to mess with your mind - but I see you're just a troll.

And at least when you say you don't have "mental issues," you can feel justified... it's not your MIND that's messed up, it's the DRUGS. But wait... what exactly is it that narcotics do? Oh, right - chemically unbalance your mind so that certain parts of it don't work. Hmm.

What does cannabis do? Attaches to receptors that naturally occur in our brains, which then ACTIVATE and REGULATE parts of our mind (the human cannabinoid system helps and is key in regulating sleep, immune system refresh, cell regeneration, the flushing of toxins and the "reset" of nerotoxin induced pattered behaviour.

Hmm... I guess I can see why it's not worh your time responding to someone like me that CLEARLY can't understand how much you know, and how well you see the issue.

I knew you'd not be worth my time, but hope springs eternal. Liars want to lie, they're afraid of truth and debate. Glad we've got you pegged and defined once and for all.

I call BS on this study. I am an alcoholic and started my recovery in 1983. Been to a shit-ton of meetings in the last 35 years or so. I have met at least a thousand alcoholics in that time and plenty of heroin, crack, meth and coke addicts over the decades. I could count on one hand the number of potheads that were only addicted to pot seeking recovery. And no I don't smoke pot cause it's a drug and only puts me to sleep.

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Congratulations! That's a hard road... much respect.

That study is based on the potency of THC, which is not monitored.

The researchers say it is unlikely that an increase in the number of people using cannabis is behind the increase in drug admissions. In the UK, prevalence of cannabis use has actually decreased in recent years.
Around the world, changes in drug laws are having an impact on the kinds of cannabis available. Emerging legal markets in the USA do not include limits or tax on THC, and potent new products are becoming more popular.
‘Our findings highlight a cause for concern regarding the health impact of extremely potent cannabis concentrates which have very recently risen in popularity in some parts of the USA,’ says Dr Freeman. ‘In Washington State, within two years of legalisation over 20% of sales were for “cannabis concentrates” containing an average of 70% THC.’

I post studies which I guess for dopeheads are quite complicated reads, not stupid papers that may appear to give credence to cannabis as a new treatment under investigation but with no scientific evidence.

Conventional medicine like I take is underpinned by evidence gathered in clinical trials.