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Woman at Vanderbilt Medical Center Accidentally Given EXECUTION DRUG--DIES

 
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A woman undergoing a routine PET scan was given drugs used for lethal injection execution instead of an anti anxiety drug...dies a slow, painful death.

Why the fuck were the meds for anxiety next to those used for executing prisoners.

Nice job, assholes

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How in heaven could such a thing happen? Oh boy - lots of heads be rolling out the door by morning. Monday - oh glory - a really bad day for many!
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The only "good" that may come from this, is that the family MIGHT reach a decent settlement with the hospital. But that may take many months to years if the hosp. fights it.
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That is called virtue hiring...or it could have been murder. Maybe both.
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A woman undergoing a routine PET scan was given drugs used for lethal injection execution instead of an anti anxiety drug...dies a slow, painful death.

Why the fuck were the meds for anxiety next to those used for executing prisoners.

Nice job, assholes

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 Quoting: Works4Me


How in heaven could such a thing happen? Oh boy - lots of heads be rolling out the door by morning. Monday - oh glory - a really bad day for many!
 Quoting: Pooka


Not nearly as bad as the woman receiving the injection.

I keep telling anyone who will listen to stay far away from hospitals. A family member in the medical field told me that drug addiction among the medical staff is a HUGE problem with a lot of doctors and nurses impaired to deal with the hours and stress.

I would assume drugs like that...not needed for routine use...would be kept outside of a hospital setting...unless Vanderbilt does executions for the state on the side...
 Quoting: Works4Me


Not sure what department your family member works in.

But i work in the medical field and disagree

I've traveled to many states and worked in multiple hospitals across the country.

The overwhelming majority of healthcare professionals DO care and take their careers very seriously.

That said...certain departments in the hospital have different levels of professionalism. Like in any field...the higher up the career path you go, the more professional the person is.
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A hospital is under investigation after 75-year-old woman died in agony when a nurse accidentally gave her a drug used to execute death row prisoners. The victim, who has not been named, ‘would have fully experienced torturous, searing pain as her lungs shut down and she was unable to verbalize what was occurring being fully awake at the time,’ according to attorney Brian Manookian.


OH, MY LORD!

So, basically, the worst possible death...ever! WTF!
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Wow hospitals stock execution drugs , that is not terrifying at all.
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Wow hospitals stock execution drugs , that is not terrifying at all.
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Like anyone is truly surprised?

More people die in hospitals than drunk driving, gun related and many other "accidental" types of death, yearly.

Meanwhile, people who truly wish to die have had to fight long legal battles, including those who are in a vegetative state, depressed, in constant severe pain or whatever... and here this woman gets the "blessing" that so many others want but can't get?

Hell, I'm sure there are TONS of prisoners who received life sentences and would happily request a last banquet meal and a dose of what she had to get past the remaining decades of monotony and violence they face in prison.

This world is f*cked up beyond any dream gone wrong, even for all of its beauty. It's just SO antithetical and diametrically opposed across SO many things, the concept of Good and Evil and Black and White are too overly simplistic and never take into account the other two states of duality... the transient state and the null state between both.

Please, I want out.
 Quoting: BeenHereBefore


Sounds like Vanderbilt is offering a cheap way out lol....just schedule a CT scan


j/k
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A woman undergoing a routine PET scan was given drugs used for lethal injection execution instead of an anti anxiety drug...dies a slow, painful death.

Why the fuck were the meds for anxiety next to those used for executing prisoners.

Nice job, assholes

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 Quoting: Works4Me


How in heaven could such a thing happen? Oh boy - lots of heads be rolling out the door by morning. Monday - oh glory - a really bad day for many!
 Quoting: Pooka


Not nearly as bad as the woman receiving the injection.

I keep telling anyone who will listen to stay far away from hospitals. A family member in the medical field told me that drug addiction among the medical staff is a HUGE problem with a lot of doctors and nurses impaired to deal with the hours and stress.

I would assume drugs like that...not needed for routine use...would be kept outside of a hospital setting...unless Vanderbilt does executions for the state on the side...
 Quoting: Works4Me


Not sure what department your family member works in.

But i work in the medical field and disagree

I've traveled to many states and worked in multiple hospitals across the country.

The overwhelming majority of healthcare professionals DO care and take their careers very seriously.

That said...certain departments in the hospital have different levels of professionalism. Like in any field...the higher up the career path you go, the more professional the person is.
 Quoting: Feyra


Let me guess...you're a DETAIL MAN for Pharma?

They told me its well known within the industry its a HUGE problem. A quick google search...

Doctors and nurses account for one of the highest rates of addiction in the workforce. According to USA Today, “Across the country, more than 100,000 doctors, nurses, technicians and other health professionals struggle with abuse or addiction, mostly involving narcotics such as Oxycodone and Fentanyl.”

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That's a pretty fucking huge number, if correct. The person told me about 25-30% are occasional users (stress/hours) but are functional...and 10-15% are full blown addicts that shouldn't be near a patient. Nurses pick up on it right away, but no one reports out of fear of career retribution
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A woman undergoing a routine PET scan was given drugs used for lethal injection execution instead of an anti anxiety drug...dies a slow, painful death.

Why the fuck were the meds for anxiety next to those used for executing prisoners.

Nice job, assholes

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 Quoting: Works4Me


How in heaven could such a thing happen? Oh boy - lots of heads be rolling out the door by morning. Monday - oh glory - a really bad day for many!
 Quoting: Pooka


So, what did she know about the Clinton Foundation, and the Podesta’s?
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Versed is actually awesome. It's like a beer bus for 15 minutes.

Poor lady.
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WOW...The plot THICKENS...

The malpractice attorney for the woman offed by Vanderbilt's medical center was suspended from practicing law because he "posed a substantial threat to the public" lol.

Sounds like the long and sticky tentacles of the medical mafia are giving her attorney a good BITCH SLAPPING...maybe he was getting GREEDY?

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Why do they even have that drug there???
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


There are times when a patient must be paralyzed to do certain procedures---like intubation of trachea in a patient with status epilepticus. and during certain surgeries.
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^^^This, it's still used for general anesthesia, but largely has been replaced by succinylcholine.
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This story isn't making sense

Versed is used for invasive procedures...such as surgery, ICU vent, scopes, etc.

It's not used for imaging tests. And its not a good med for claustrophobia.

Claustrophobic patients get Valium or even diphenhydramine for imaging.

Also...the PET scan machine is like a cat scan...like a donut. It's not a long tube like MRI. Where MRI takes an hour or more...a PET scan only takes 15-20 min

Why a doctor would prescribe versed injection for a short test in an open machine is beyond me. In all my years..I've never heard of such a thing.



It's dangerous too because the patient needs to have all vitals monitored... heart rate, BP, O2..

But somehow the patient was taken into the room without the nurse... immediately after the nurse gave the injection?




Not saying it's fake. But there are a lot of discrepancies ..in the article and in real life practice.

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How in heaven could such a thing happen? Oh boy - lots of heads be rolling out the door by morning. Monday - oh glory - a really bad day for many!
 Quoting: Pooka


Not nearly as bad as the woman receiving the injection.

I keep telling anyone who will listen to stay far away from hospitals. A family member in the medical field told me that drug addiction among the medical staff is a HUGE problem with a lot of doctors and nurses impaired to deal with the hours and stress.

I would assume drugs like that...not needed for routine use...would be kept outside of a hospital setting...unless Vanderbilt does executions for the state on the side...
 Quoting: Works4Me


Not sure what department your family member works in.

But i work in the medical field and disagree

I've traveled to many states and worked in multiple hospitals across the country.

The overwhelming majority of healthcare professionals DO care and take their careers very seriously.

That said...certain departments in the hospital have different levels of professionalism. Like in any field...the higher up the career path you go, the more professional the person is.
 Quoting: Feyra


Let me guess...you're a DETAIL MAN for Pharma?

They told me its well known within the industry its a HUGE problem. A quick google search...

Doctors and nurses account for one of the highest rates of addiction in the workforce. According to USA Today, “Across the country, more than 100,000 doctors, nurses, technicians and other health professionals struggle with abuse or addiction, mostly involving narcotics such as Oxycodone and Fentanyl.”

[link to www.addictioncenter.com (secure)]

That's a pretty fucking huge number, if correct. The person told me about 25-30% are occasional users (stress/hours) but are functional...and 10-15% are full blown addicts that shouldn't be near a patient. Nurses pick up on it right away, but no one reports out of fear of career retribution
 Quoting: Works4Me


I'm an actual healthcare provider. Not interested in getting into a bicker over numbers. One person's opinions does not make a fact.

But surprised to see a GLP'er quick to believe some numbers from some organization.

The same kinds of propaganda organizations that tell us climate change is real...whites are all nazis...and vets are all mentally ill.

The "opioid crises" has fabrication too. But one would have to go beyond the govt-sponsored papers to learn that.

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read the article, the computer killed her


The nurse typed in the first two letters for versed -‘VE’- and instead lifted out a deadly dose of the paralyzing anesthetic.


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Unless the vials were mislabeled, all nurses and docs know to "trust but verify".

Also, none of the drugs used for lethal injection start with VE. They are sodium thiopental (anesthetic), pancuronium bromide (paralyzing substance) and potassium chloride (stops cardiac activity). There is no need for these drugs to be at a hospital when there are more effective anesthetics. Paralyzers and stopping the heart? Those should have a chain of custody and a way to track them, not just a vending machine type of thing that any nurse can get to.

They fucked up bad and this is their best cover story? Pfffft.

Versed is an anesthetic used for outpatient surgery. Why use it for a PET scan?? Wouldn't they just hit her with a few milligrams of Valium or Xanax?
 Quoting: FissionSurplus


My opthalmologist likes Versed for eye surgeries.
 Quoting: Pooka


I've been under versed numerous times. It's easier to come out of than the heavier stuff, but definitely NOT an anti-anxiety med. More like a "you're gonna take a two hour nap now" type of drug.
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Why do they even have that drug there???
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Yep why.
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They always ask your name address etc every time a staff member See's you. Same in surgery information is checked even reading the name before injecting.
But guess what you sign that paper be for an op stating staff are not respinsabile and you can die.
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Why do they even have that drug there???
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


There are times when a patient must be paralyzed to do certain procedures---like intubation of trachea in a patient with status epilepticus. and during certain surgeries.
 Quoting: MarPep


lol...I don't think they use that drug for routine procedures
 Quoting: Works4Me


What is vecuronium?

Vecuronium is a powerful paralyzing anesthetic used to keep patients still during surgery.

The drug is also used as part of the deadly three-drug cocktail used to execute death row convicts in Tennessee and some other states.

In this case, it caused the patient to go into cardiac arrest and led to partial brain death.

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What if you go into the hospital for vasectomy but they switched charts on you with a tranny and you wake up with a front hole?
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Next week the nurse will hit the letter "p" for penicillin but instead click on plutonium. Oh it's going to be a long week.
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Next week the nurse will hit the letter "p" for penicillin but instead click on plutonium. Oh it's going to be a long week.
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Or press "c" for colonoscopy but click on castration.
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Enter "va" for "vasectomy" but click on "vaginoplasty" and you wake up with a front hole.
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Nurse should be charged with negligent manslaughter. Set an example so others are more careful.
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Shit like this happens to a minimum of 250,000 americans every year


look up medical malpractice stats
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WTF and gun deaths are only 32k a year and 60% of those are suicide which tells Me the left only cares about power and removing guns is there first step to achieving it.
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Good point^^
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That title is quite sensational. Vecuronium is a fairly, commonly used drug in ERs for Rapid Sequence Intubation. It's a paralytic that is given with a sedative to make intubation easier on patients who can't protect their airways.

But this nurse should have her license revoked. The practice she violated is one of the most basic tenets of Pharmacology, the Five (or Six) Rights: Right Patient, Right Medication, Right Dose, Right Route, Right Time, and (Right Documentation).

What a twat.
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Hospitals kill old people. They did it on purpose. They execute the elderly.
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Sad that....but here in Africa they execute the babies

Hardly a month goes by without some scandal involving the deaths of numerous infants.
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read the article, the computer killed her


The nurse typed in the first two letters for versed -‘VE’- and instead lifted out a deadly dose of the paralyzing anesthetic.


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 Quoting: jake


Unless the vials were mislabeled, all nurses and docs know to "trust but verify".

Also, none of the drugs used for lethal injection start with VE. They are sodium thiopental (anesthetic), pancuronium bromide (paralyzing substance) and potassium chloride (stops cardiac activity). There is no need for these drugs to be at a hospital when there are more effective anesthetics. Paralyzers and stopping the heart? Those should have a chain of custody and a way to track them, not just a vending machine type of thing that any nurse can get to.

They fucked up bad and this is their best cover story? Pfffft.

Versed is an anesthetic used for outpatient surgery. Why use it for a PET scan?? Wouldn't they just hit her with a few milligrams of Valium or Xanax?
 Quoting: FissionSurplus


My opthalmologist likes Versed for eye surgeries.
 Quoting: Pooka


I've been under versed numerous times. It's easier to come out of than the heavier stuff, but definitely NOT an anti-anxiety med. More like a "you're gonna take a two hour nap now" type of drug.
 Quoting: FissionSurplus


There are different drugs that are the same class. The ones we're talking about here are sedatives and paralytics. Paralytics should only be given if you're trying to kill the person, or you're prepared to take over the patient's airway and breathing with intubation and assisted ventilations.

Versed has many uses and it is similar to Valium. The anxiolytics/sedatives are very dose dependent. You can use them to calm people, reduce chances of status epilipticus, sedate, and even cause retrograde amnesia.

Versed was appropriate for this procedure, Vecuronium was not. The nurse failed to notice the difference and her negligence killed her patient.
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From the link OP posted:


A hospital is under investigation after 75-year-old woman died in agony when a nurse accidentally gave her a drug used to execute death row prisoners. The victim, who has not been named, ‘would have fully experienced torturous, searing pain as her lungs shut down and she was unable to verbalize what was occurring being fully awake at the time,’ according to attorney Brian Manookian.


OH, MY LORD!

So, basically, the worst possible death...ever! WTF!
 Quoting: WEDGE5th


Unimaginable, that poor lady.

I think such a potentially deadly drug should have had better and more effective controls to prevent this type of accident. What if someone were intending to use it for nefarious purposes? They can just access it and inject anyone easy as they please?
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read the article, the computer killed her


The nurse typed in the first two letters for versed -‘VE’- and instead lifted out a deadly dose of the paralyzing anesthetic.


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 Quoting: jake


From the Article:

He added: ‘We identified that the error occurred because a staff member had bypassed multiple safety mechanisms that were in place to prevent such errors.’

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"Sight Reading" killed that patient. the nurse saw the "VE" and assumed it was the right medicine. She probably should have bothered to read the rest of the label.
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Haven't been to a doctor in decades and wouldn't go unless I had a broken bone or was bleeding. I have really only been to a doctor once in my adult life, I'm almost 60 and that was decades ago. I've seen what people in my family have gone through and I'll pass, I'm not participating in that.
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Same here. My mother was volunteering at the little outpost that replaced the hospital where I was born.
I was curious if they had digitized my records at the hospital before they tore it down.
The last doctor I saw there became Chief of Staff. My records were thrown out after 10 years.
Nada! I'm dead to them.
Dentist may still have some.
Haven't been in almost 8 years.
Vanderbilt is 200 miles from here.
I think I have a cousin working there.

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