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Has anyone tried the carnivore diet? Update

 
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I found some information which says that the carnivore diet cures depression, autoimmune disease, diverticulitis etc...


When I watched this video I was pretty impressed with how healthy and vibrant she looked.


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Please let me know if you've tried it. I'd like to hear how it went either way.

For those of you who are familiar with Jordan Peterson, this is his daughter.

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Update: I've been on this diet almost 2 weeks. My digestion is finally since yesterday becoming normal. I've had very very very bad trouble 4 months on end. Now I actually feel pretty good.

What surprises me the most about this diet is that I'm never really hungry. I don't eat hardly any food at all. Only steak. Sometimes I break diet and I have some crackers and butter.

I'm easily losing weight without trying. I save a heck of a lot of money on groceries. So far so great.

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Like the Atkins diet where you eat only meat, some people did that and died of a heart attack following it.
They were younger not old people.
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Like the Atkins diet where you eat only meat, some people did that and died of a heart attack following it.
They were younger not old people.
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The Atkins diet had a lot of other things in it too. This particular diet is only beef. That's it. Well, water too.

It's very radical. I don't think it's new. There won't be any huge slabs of bacon with this one.

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Thread: Can you really live on meat alone? Everything you need to know about the carnivore diet

I just found this thread from two days ago on the same thing.
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I tried it yesterday. I felt great. I went off of it today and feel horrible.

I stocked up on some steaks. I'll be the guinea pig. I really would like to see if this could help. Anyone else feel free to join me, we can compare notes.
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
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Thanks for that. That's probably why she said she drinks a lot of water. I'll have to look into that.
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
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Why is it hard on your kidneys?
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It has to do with the proteins and their metabolites.

Some folks run better on different diets, and I think some of it is based on your ancestral eating habits. The Aleuts and innuits do really well on fatty meats and protiens, but not so well on sugars.


I'd study your background and heritage and see if you might do best on foods that eaten by the folks in your bloodline.

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Look up zero carb zen, Esmee is great, and their group is the best, very open and flexible, many other groups are very rigid.

I have done it, good quality rare beef or raw is best. Most of your calories will come from fat. Rib eye is good, as is chuck roast.

Many have had long term success. The downside is that it is expensive, and over time you lack potassium, b6, fiber....

Is helpful for people with gut issues, rare meat is actually very easy to digest. Many plant foods are full of salicylates, oxalates, histamines, etc, and meat is full of bioavaible nutrients.

No harm in trying it, but you need a lot of fatty meat each day to make it work. Would caution on long term use.

My blood type is o positive, so it worked fine for me.
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It has to do with the proteins and their metabolites.

Some folks run better on different diets, and I think some of it is based on your ancestral eating habits. The Aleuts and innuits do really well on fatty meats and protiens, but not so well on sugars.


I'd study your background and heritage and see if you might do best on foods that eaten by the folks in your bloodline.
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I think there's even a company that will do a DNA test and determine how that affects your diet. It might be interesting to try. I can't remember the name of it though.
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Look up zero carb zen, Esmee is great, and their group is the best, very open and flexible, many other groups are very rigid.

I have done it, good quality rare beef or raw is best. Most of your calories will come from fat. Rib eye is good, as is chuck roast.

Many have had long term success. The downside is that it is expensive, and over time you lack potassium, b6, fiber....

Is helpful for people with gut issues, rare meat is actually very easy to digest. Many plant foods are full of salicylates, oxalates, histamines, etc, and meat is full of bioavaible nutrients.

No harm in trying it, but you need a lot of fatty meat each day to make it work. Would caution on long term use.

My blood type is o positive, so it worked fine for me.
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Thank you very much for all of that information. I'm wondering how it gets really expensive if that's the only thing that you're eating?
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Mikhaila was on JRE last week.hf
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Mikhaila was on JRE last week.hf
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I saw there was a video of that. I plan to watch it. I'm curious on another subject what do you atribute to 444?

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Look up zero carb zen, Esmee is great, and their group is the best, very open and flexible, many other groups are very rigid.

I have done it, good quality rare beef or raw is best. Most of your calories will come from fat. Rib eye is good, as is chuck roast.

Many have had long term success. The downside is that it is expensive, and over time you lack potassium, b6, fiber....

Is helpful for people with gut issues, rare meat is actually very easy to digest. Many plant foods are full of salicylates, oxalates, histamines, etc, and meat is full of bioavaible nutrients.

No harm in trying it, but you need a lot of fatty meat each day to make it work. Would caution on long term use.

My blood type is o positive, so it worked fine for me.
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Thank you very much for all of that information. I'm wondering how it gets really expensive if that's the only thing that you're eating?
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Almost weekly in Houston, a two pack Bone in Ribeye costs less than $10 on sale at HEB or Kroger. That's ~32 oz of beef. I cannot think of much that is cheaper than that.
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Meat diets cause acidosis, the organs then fail from too much acid in the body trying to break down all that protein.
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
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cowgal I agree.
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
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Thanks for that. That's probably why she said she drinks a lot of water. I'll have to look into that.
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At 24:35 Dr Shawn Baker says There is no evidence that protein damages kidneys.
One of the myths is damaged kidneys will spill protein.
It’s not that the protein damaged the kidneys,
It just no longer effective at filtering it out.
It spills it out instead
Then he backs it up with studies
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In the olden days, when Lewis and Clark etc were out there on the trails exploring they ate a lot of meat.

They knew that you couldn't survive on just the lean meat. They knew to drink cups and cups of the fat and the juices.
Organs too.

You can survive on just animal foods, but it isn't the same thing as just buying burger and you're done!

The trad mixed diet is good for most people, unless you have a serious health problem such as diabetes. There are plenty of bad things to drop from the standard American diet if you want to make healthy changes. Such as modern fats and sugar.

Someone mentioned people getting heart attacks after trying Atkins. There is a time at the beginning of Atkins in which you pee out a bunch of water and electrolytes. This can take a very bad toll on the heart. Of course, the person suddenly looses weight and in their excitment, they delve farther into the diet. Making things worse.

Best to make all changes slowly, and a home-made mineral-rehydration formula should be taken. (In the olden days, this would probably have been the heavy amounts of fat and broth and organs)

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I'm on the carnivore diet and the first week I lost 13 pounds, the way I did my diet was eat any kind of meat I wanted. Mostly it was beef but I did have bacon, eggs and some chicken. My joints no longer hurt, my brain fog is gone and my energy level is outstanding. Try it for at least 7 days and see what you think. As others have said not all food works for everyone. Good luck and I hope you like it as much as I do.
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Like the Atkins diet where you eat only meat, some people did that and died of a heart attack following it.
They were younger not old people.
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People are omnivores. Any kind of extreme diet from veganism to carnivorism is contrary to our biology and likely won't end well if continued for the long term.
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Works best if you have O bloodline which is original hunter bloodline

I get weak if I dont eat meat everyday

But I eat other stuff too, just a normal balanced diet. I can never be vegan though cause of my bloodline

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Frankly, it hasn't worked out well for me the last 50 years
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a straight meat diet is pretty hard on the kidneys.


Humans are omnivores, and can make it on meat alone or vegetarian alone, but run best on a balanced diet.
 Quoting: ol' scratch


Thanks for that. That's probably why she said she drinks a lot of water. I'll have to look into that.
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At 24:35 Dr Shawn Baker says There is no evidence that protein damages kidneys.
One of the myths is damaged kidneys will spill protein.
It’s not that the protein damaged the kidneys,
It just no longer effective at filtering it out.
It spills it out instead
Then he backs it up with studies
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Thank you for that. I've just started myself. I'm seriously going to do this. I have a lot to gain and nothing to lose.

Plus, did you notice how healthy they all look good in these videos?


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Like the Atkins diet where you eat only meat, some people did that and died of a heart attack following it.
They were younger not old people.
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I tried it but the most benefit I got was cutting out wheat. Recently I tried reintroducing wheat and my eosinophil levels went through the roof.
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In the olden days, when Lewis and Clark etc were out there on the trails exploring they ate a lot of meat.

They knew that you couldn't survive on just the lean meat. They knew to drink cups and cups of the fat and the juices.
Organs too.

You can survive on just animal foods, but it isn't the same thing as just buying burger and you're done!

The trad mixed diet is good for most people, unless you have a serious health problem such as diabetes. There are plenty of bad things to drop from the standard American diet if you want to make healthy changes. Such as modern fats and sugar.

Someone mentioned people getting heart attacks after trying Atkins. There is a time at the beginning of Atkins in which you pee out a bunch of water and electrolytes. This can take a very bad toll on the heart. Of course, the person suddenly looses weight and in their excitment, they delve farther into the diet. Making things worse.

Best to make all changes slowly, and a home-made mineral-rehydration formula should be taken. (In the olden days, this would probably have been the heavy amounts of fat and broth and organs)
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Thank you. Thank all of you really. You sound like you know what you're doing.
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I'm on the carnivore diet and the first week I lost 13 pounds, the way I did my diet was eat any kind of meat I wanted. Mostly it was beef but I did have bacon, eggs and some chicken. My joints no longer hurt, my brain fog is gone and my energy level is outstanding. Try it for at least 7 days and see what you think. As others have said not all food works for everyone. Good luck and I hope you like it as much as I do.
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Yay! I just finished my first teeny little steak and I decided I'm going to splurge on some Omaha Steaks pretty soon.
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Frankly, it hasn't worked out well for me the last 50 years
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I only eat meat, fruit, veg, a few potatoes, have done my entire life.

Don't need a trendy diet with a weird name, just eat sensibly, and you'll be OK.
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