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Cannabis users have shrunken brains and lower IQ's

 
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Whats with this need to quantify everything? People will be as high and or intelligent as are, Regardless of the "facts"
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ok.

i use cannabis every day.

call me stupid


every day you call me stupid like you are some kind of idiot.
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Oh, on that point I'm adamantly convinced that he's no kind of shill. There are intelligence and mental stability requirements that he doesn't meet. No, this is a personal entertainment thing - when you sit around in a daze all day, you have to do SOMETHING to entertain yourself. Probably not as entertaining since I've been back, but whatever LOL!

Then again, it could simply be that it's trying to understand the articles I sent... THAT takes it a long time as well. Hell, using arguments from the articles that IT posts seems to confuse it a lot... hehehe
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Maybe he's high. lol
 Quoting: A Chosen


No. I get fatigued but not high.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Fatigued.???.....You don't do fuck all ..all day
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I don’t get high, I get “fatigued”. Good one junkie.
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I wonder what the limit is for negative karma.
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OP is testing that as we type.
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i use cannabis every day.

call me stupid


every day you call me stupid like you are some kind of idiot.
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Nah... to be honest, I am starting to think that it has these daily rants against cannabis as a sort of guilt thing - it knows that it's killing itself with it's dependency on the opioids, and making excuses to do so.

Based on that, it's lashing out at people that AREN'T sticking themselves in that rut, people that suffer worse pain and yet have lives, jobs, and aren't slaves to a substance, but choose to medicate in a responsible and SAFE way that doesn't create a physical dependence.

SO OP posts from guilt, and from jealousy, best I can figure. Take it as a compliment... he'd rather be free like you, than a slave to the narcotics, but he can't admit that.
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i use cannabis every day.

call me stupid


every day you call me stupid like you are some kind of idiot.
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Nah... to be honest, I am starting to think that it has these daily rants against cannabis as a sort of guilt thing - it knows that it's killing itself with it's dependency on the opioids, and making excuses to do so.

Based on that, it's lashing out at people that AREN'T sticking themselves in that rut, people that suffer worse pain and yet have lives, jobs, and aren't slaves to a substance, but choose to medicate in a responsible and SAFE way that doesn't create a physical dependence.

SO OP posts from guilt, and from jealousy, best I can figure. Take it as a compliment... he'd rather be free like you, than a slave to the narcotics, but he can't admit that.
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And his house stinks.
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i use cannabis every day.

call me stupid


every day you call me stupid like you are some kind of idiot.
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I don't even use it because it's still illegal where I live. I do get the CBD oil but it has to be less than .03 or maybe it's .003 percent THC in it. If I had health issue and Cannabis worked, I would use it regardless. I have nothing against it. In fact, I fully support it be legal worldwide for people who can benefit from it.
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Compared with a person who never smoked marijuana, someone who uses marijuana regularly has, on average, less gray matter in his orbital frontal cortex, a region that is a key node in the brain's reward, motivation, decision-making and addictive behaviors network.

Researchers noted that the IQ of the marijuana-using group was significantly lower than that of the non-using group.


[link to www.latimes.com]



The existing literature on the long-term effects of marijuana on the brain provides an inconsistent picture (i.e., presence or absence of structural changes) due to methodological differences across studies. We overcame these methodological issues by collecting multimodal measures in a large group of chronic marijuana using adults with a wide age range that allows for characterization of changes across lifespan without developmental or maturational biases as in other studies. Our findings suggest that chronic marijuana use is associated with complex neuroadaptive processes and that onset and duration of use have unique effects on these processes.

[link to www.pnas.org]

damned
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Don't know about that, but I would suggest it makes you on the more lazy side, as does alcohol and kava.
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Compared with a person who never smoked marijuana, someone who uses marijuana regularly has, on average, less gray matter in his orbital frontal cortex, a region that is a key node in the brain's reward, motivation, decision-making and addictive behaviors network.

Researchers noted that the IQ of the marijuana-using group was significantly lower than that of the non-using group.


[link to www.latimes.com]



The existing literature on the long-term effects of marijuana on the brain provides an inconsistent picture (i.e., presence or absence of structural changes) due to methodological differences across studies. We overcame these methodological issues by collecting multimodal measures in a large group of chronic marijuana using adults with a wide age range that allows for characterization of changes across lifespan without developmental or maturational biases as in other studies. Our findings suggest that chronic marijuana use is associated with complex neuroadaptive processes and that onset and duration of use have unique effects on these processes.

[link to www.pnas.org]

damned
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Don't know about that, but I would suggest it makes you on the more lazy side, as does alcohol and kava.
 Quoting: woolsey


And if you're speaking strictly about an indica strain, smoked, or vaped at a certain temperature, I'd be inclined to agree.

If, however, you use a hybrid, or a sativa at low temperature, you actually achieve a state where you aren't "high," and your energy, focus and motivation are increased. this is one of the things I've found fascinating as cannabis culture and science have begun to mesh - all of the previously unknown things we're finding out, and stereotypes being shattered. I have an extremely lazy friend, who offsets that with a few puffs of a sativa throught the day when he has to get things done - it's amazing, night and day.

I love this stuff, hope people see it and start their own research into this very interesting topic, whether they ever choose to use cannabis or not. And THIS is why I say stop hating on OP... it's unbalanced obsession with these threads is a fantastic platform for truth!
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Oh, on that point I'm adamantly convinced that he's no kind of shill. There are intelligence and mental stability requirements that he doesn't meet. No, this is a personal entertainment thing - when you sit around in a daze all day, you have to do SOMETHING to entertain yourself. Probably not as entertaining since I've been back, but whatever LOL!

Then again, it could simply be that it's trying to understand the articles I sent... THAT takes it a long time as well. Hell, using arguments from the articles that IT posts seems to confuse it a lot... hehehe
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Maybe he's high. lol
 Quoting: A Chosen


No. I get fatigued but not high.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Fatigued.???.....You don't do fuck all ..all day
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Pain, muscle spasms and arthritis cause fatigue.
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Maybe he's high. lol
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No. I get fatigued but not high.
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Fatigued.???.....You don't do fuck all ..all day
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Pain, muscle spasms and arthritis cause fatigue.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Pain, fatigue, physical brain damage to pain centers, arthritis and avoiding seizures ALSO causes a huge deal of fatigue.. why not ask my wife? Then ask her how many hours of work she put in today, and how much of that pain she allowed her clients to see?

And THEN, ask what medications she was on for those things?

NONE.

Her thyroid med, yes, daily. Other than that? She'll likely take an ibuprofen before she goes to her choir practice, and a couple of drops of CBD tincture before bed.

But you keep convincing yourself of your excuse, OP. Broke my back, was to be in a wheelchair within 5 years. That was 25 years ago. Never took a DROP of the poison narcotics, even though the surgeon who said I couldn't be fixed said I'd have no choice.

Well, here I am 25 years later, no surgery, no opioids, EVER< in my life... walking and talking just fine. I work sitting in a chair 9 hours a day, then go buck and split wood. Heck, the guys 20 years younger can't keep up on my good days.

SO yeah, you complain about your fatigue. I'll stick to a couple of small puffs on a vaporizer each night before bed, and I can only hope you decide to make the same choice someday, before it really IS too late for you.

You're up late, you should get some rest... I'll be back tomorrow!

hf

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No. I get fatigued but not high.
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Fatigued.???.....You don't do fuck all ..all day
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Pain, muscle spasms and arthritis cause fatigue.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Pain, fatigue, physical brain damage to pain centers, arthritis and avoiding seizures ALSO causes a huge deal of fatigue.. why not ask my wife? Then ask her how many hours of work she put in today, and how much of that pain she allowed her clients to see?

And THEN, ask what medications she was on for those things?

NONE.

Her thyroid med, yes, daily. Other than that? She'll likely take an ibuprofen before she goes to her choir practice, and a couple of drops of CBD tincture before bed.

But you keep convincing yourself of your excuse, OP. Broke my back, was to be in a wheelchair within 5 years. That was 25 years ago. Never took a DROP of the poison narcotics, even though the surgeon who said I couldn't be fixed said I'd have no choice.

Well, here I am 25 years later, no surgery, no opioids, EVER< in my life... walking and talking just fine. I work sitting in a chair 9 hours a day, then go buck and split wood. Heck, the guys 20 years younger can't keep up on my good days.

SO yeah, you complain about your fatigue. I'll stick to a couple of small puffs on a vaporizer each night before bed, and I can only hope you decide to make the same choice someday, before it really IS too late for you.

You're up late, you should get some rest... I'll be back tomorrow!

hf
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I tried CBD oil and it did nothing for me. Absolute homeopathic scam that oil. £30 for 10ml of 1000mg CBD oil.
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The new government, genetically altered, Monsanto sprayed bullshit probably does.
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People with low IQs self medicate with drugs which reduce their stress.
Kill all the lower IQ people, no more marijuana users, problems solved.
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People with low IQs self medicate with drugs which reduce their stress.
Kill all the lower IQ people, no more marijuana users, problems solved.
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Duterte is that you?

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The new government, genetically altered, Monsanto sprayed bullshit probably does.
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That just gives you straight cancer.
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Compared with a person who never smoked marijuana, someone who uses marijuana regularly has, on average, less gray matter in his orbital frontal cortex, a region that is a key node in the brain's reward, motivation, decision-making and addictive behaviors network.

Researchers noted that the IQ of the marijuana-using group was significantly lower than that of the non-using group.


[link to www.latimes.com]



The existing literature on the long-term effects of marijuana on the brain provides an inconsistent picture (i.e., presence or absence of structural changes) due to methodological differences across studies. We overcame these methodological issues by collecting multimodal measures in a large group of chronic marijuana using adults with a wide age range that allows for characterization of changes across lifespan without developmental or maturational biases as in other studies. Our findings suggest that chronic marijuana use is associated with complex neuroadaptive processes and that onset and duration of use have unique effects on these processes.

[link to www.pnas.org]

damned
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People with low IQs self medicate with drugs which reduce their stress.
Kill all the lower IQ people, no more marijuana users, problems solved.
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Well, well! Violent, stupid AND uneducated all in one package! FANtastic!

I sure hope you come back and play tomorrow - just finished my 10 hour work day, so I need to go see my wife, but I'm sure it will be a BLAST tearing holes in your weak mind as well! :)

Have a GREAT evening!
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Fatigued.???.....You don't do fuck all ..all day
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Pain, muscle spasms and arthritis cause fatigue.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Pain, fatigue, physical brain damage to pain centers, arthritis and avoiding seizures ALSO causes a huge deal of fatigue.. why not ask my wife? Then ask her how many hours of work she put in today, and how much of that pain she allowed her clients to see?

And THEN, ask what medications she was on for those things?

NONE.

Her thyroid med, yes, daily. Other than that? She'll likely take an ibuprofen before she goes to her choir practice, and a couple of drops of CBD tincture before bed.

But you keep convincing yourself of your excuse, OP. Broke my back, was to be in a wheelchair within 5 years. That was 25 years ago. Never took a DROP of the poison narcotics, even though the surgeon who said I couldn't be fixed said I'd have no choice.

Well, here I am 25 years later, no surgery, no opioids, EVER< in my life... walking and talking just fine. I work sitting in a chair 9 hours a day, then go buck and split wood. Heck, the guys 20 years younger can't keep up on my good days.

SO yeah, you complain about your fatigue. I'll stick to a couple of small puffs on a vaporizer each night before bed, and I can only hope you decide to make the same choice someday, before it really IS too late for you.

You're up late, you should get some rest... I'll be back tomorrow!

hf
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I tried CBD oil and it did nothing for me. Absolute homeopathic scam that oil. £30 for 10ml of 1000mg CBD oil.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


I am very sorry to hear that it did not help you, and I mean that sincerely. And if that WAS a scam, I feel badly for you.

However, the science proves that it DOES work, and I live with a SHINING example of how it helps - it is NOT p a panacea or a magic bullet, nothing is, but it certainly helps my wife, and MANY others I know. And again, the science backs it - it also backs the fact that sadly, YMMV.

Have a great ... whatever time it is for you! I hope you rest well.
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Green and a pin to counter the angry low IQ potheads.

I used to work at a homeless shelter for two years. I noticed a few things:

* Everyone who was there for economic or health reasons managed to pull themselves up and get out.

* Everyone who smoked pot is still homeless or couch surfing. They were always the ones who was passionate about legalization.

* The ones who got out were passionate about getting back on their feet and getting out.
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Puzzling evidence:

Thread: Cannibals have shrunken brains and lower IQ's

Coincidence? OR NOT??!?!
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Never understood weed, always made my chronic pain worse and I never met any reputable person who smoked that garbage.
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Puzzling evidence:

Thread: Cannibals have shrunken brains and lower IQ's

Coincidence? OR NOT??!?!
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Its not me!
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Opiates shrink your cock and OP's wife's shopping trip's are getting longer.
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step mom does it constantly

if dad doesn't check on dinner
it's fn burnt

re: alcohol

it's called drunkzheimer's
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Ahh, so you're a child, and you don't really come at the discussion from an unbiased viewpoint - I get it, and no problem there. I'd bet that she's drinking AND hittin' the bong when she burns your dindin.

Also, say what you will I like Alchoheimer's better... better flow to it, and closer to the original.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I'm almost 50 dude
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You're almost 50... you're A) talking about your STEPMOM burning the dinner... WHO's dinner? Tell me you aren't still living there?

And if YOU'RE near fifty, I'd say age has as much to do with it as anything else, unless your Dad remarried a WAY young woman... which I totally wouldn't judge.

And I notice you ignored the "drinking AND hittin' the bong" part... did I score? I think I scored...

Regardless, it's not about you or your parents - you may have a unique experience, sorry to hear it, but I've never seen a food issue with pot smokers. If anything, too much food prepared too well - I have to warn my neighbor that if he invites up for dinner he's not allowed to smoke until AFTER he cooks or we're there for 5 hours :)

hf
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


no I don't live there

dad tells me if he ain't cooking he's eating burnt dinner

- step mom is 20 years younger than him


jump to conclusions much?

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So, what's with your obsession with weed? You sure do seem to carry on an awful lot about it.
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So, what's with your obsession with weed? You sure do seem to carry on an awful lot about it.
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It's being made out to be a "cure all" when it does not cure shit and causes more serious problems.
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Yeah, your a fag who takes it up the butt by someone related to you, maybe you go and eat a big fat bag of dicks OP.

Studies have shown that those who oppose canibus usually have super small penis's and sleep with a relative, suffer from erctile disfunction and are predisposed to having an addiction to penis in the mouth.

Studies have shown that the OP takes it in the poop hole, and gives mouth hugs behind the 711 for slurpies and the side effects are giving handies to street people for crack.
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People with low IQs self medicate with drugs which reduce their stress.
Kill all the lower IQ people, no more marijuana users, problems solved.
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Well, well! Violent, stupid AND uneducated all in one package! FANtastic!

I sure hope you come back and play tomorrow - just finished my 10 hour work day, so I need to go see my wife, but I'm sure it will be a BLAST tearing holes in your weak mind as well! :)

Have a GREAT evening!
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Our sarcasm levels have reached peak which has registered on the detectors.
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People with low IQs self medicate with drugs which reduce their stress.
Kill all the lower IQ people, no more marijuana users, problems solved.
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Well, well! Violent, stupid AND uneducated all in one package! FANtastic!

I sure hope you come back and play tomorrow - just finished my 10 hour work day, so I need to go see my wife, but I'm sure it will be a BLAST tearing holes in your weak mind as well! :)

Have a GREAT evening!
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Our sarcasm levels have reached peak which has registered on the detectors.
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laugh
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