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What did Agent Smith represent?

 
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Was Agent Smith from the Matrix movies an FBI, CIA, DHS, etc.-type agent or did he just represent any agent of the system? What do you think? Please read:



AGENT SMITH

Have you ever stood and stared at it, Morpheus? Marveled at its beauty. Its genius. Billions of people just living out their lives... oblivious.

(Agent Brown sucks a serum from a glass vial, filling a hypodermic needle.)

Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost.

(Agent Brown jams the needle into Morpheus' shoulder, and plunges down.)

Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery.

(Agent Brown studies the screens as the life signs react violently to the injection.)

The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was re-designed to this: the peak of your civilization.

(He turns from the window.)

I say 'your civilization' because as soon as we start thinking for you, it really becomes our civilization, which is, of course, what this is all about.

(He sits down directly in front of Morpheus.)

Evolution, Morpheus. Evolution.

(He lifts Morpheus' head.)

Like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time.

(Morpheus stares hard at him, trying hard not to show the pain racking his mind.)

The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time.

[...]

(Agent Smith sits casually across from Morpheus who is hunched over, his body leaking and twitching.)

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals.

(The life signs continue their chaotic patterns.)

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

(He leans forward.)

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

(He smiles.)

Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure.

[...]

(Agent Smith leans close to Morpheus, whispering to him.)

Can you hear me, Morpheus? I'm going to be honest with you.

(He removes his earphone, letting it dangle over his shoulder.)

I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

(He wipes sweat from Morpheus' forehead, coating the tips of his fingers, holding them to Morpheus' nose.)

Repulsive, isn't it?

(He lifts Morpheus' head, holding it tightly with both hands.)

I must get out of here, I must get free. In this mind is the key. My key.

(Morpheus sneers through his pain.)

Once Zion is gone, there's no need for me to be here. Do you understand? I need the codes. I have to get inside Zion. You have to tell me how...

(He begins squeezing, his fingers gouging into his flesh.)

...or you're going to die!
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I dont know what he represent but I know what to do .

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I can t beliwe what is going on here

people are you real ?

it will hit the planet soon
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I can t beliwe what is going on here

people are you real ?

it will hit the planet soon
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What will hit the planet soon? More information please.
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Smith is Neo's mirror and Trinity's shadow :-)

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Smith is Neo's mirror and Trinity's shadow :-)

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That's an excellent analysis concerning what represents in the movies.

But, what does Agent Smith represent in the real world? In other words, what is he an analogy for in the real life? Government agents or more sinister?
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Persephore is the Goddess

Morpheus is Ra, YHWH, whatever... He is also working through the architect and the Merovingian...

Considering what Trinity is to Neo, would you believe the Oracle is the Architect's life partner? :-)

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I can t beliwe what is going on here

people are you real ?

it will hit the planet soon


What will hit the planet soon? More information please.
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Tomek? Hello?


Give us a little bit more please.
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Persephore is the Goddess

Morpheus is Ra, YHWH, whatever... He is also working through the architect and the Merovingian...

Considering what Trinity is to Neo, would you believe the Oracle is the Architect's life partner? :-)

With Love,

Steeve
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You seem to really be into this movie, what do you think about this analysis?

If you follow the allegory in the Matrix movies, Society is the Matrix.

Think about it, the machines created a "world" based on the world that already existed. They didn't create the earth, just like the Illuminati didn't create the earth, therefore the earth is not part of the matrix. What else is society but a "world" based on a world that already exists?

To look for proof from the movies that society is the matrix in the Matrix movies, you need look no further than the society called "Zion" in the movies. Zion seemed to be a the "real world" to its inhabitants but those people were just as consumed by the matrix as anyone else. Why? The answer is because Zion was in fact part of the matrix. (Basically all of Zion's inhabitant's lives were dedicated to defeating the machines, thus were creating plenty of energy to feed the machines.) This can be clearly understood by a couple of simple plot points. First, a computer program, Agent Smith, manifested as a flesh and blood person inside of Zion. This couldn't have happened unless Zion was part of the matrix. Also, Zion was destroyed and rebuilt five times before Neo came along. Does anyone think that people who were "released" from the Matrix could have built an underground city in the same place five times without the help of the machines? Hell no, the machines wanted Zion there and in fact it was a creation of the machines. They needed it there in order to give people a "choice."

This is consistent with Alex Jones' explanation of the Illuminati's religion. They believe they must give people a choice, even if it's a false choice. Zion was part of the matrix and thus it follows the Illuminati's rule. I've found all of this to be true in my own life. I moved away from one society because of my total disgust with it (America) only to enter a matrix of a different type (China). This is the plight of humanity, there's no way for the common man to escape the Illuminati matrix without leaving all societies (because they control every society and thus every matrix on earth to varying degrees). Could this be why Allan Watt lives alone in the woods? He seems to be seriously trying to escape the matrix.

If you follow the allegory from the matrix movies, it's clear to me that society is the matrix. You see, the machines didn't create this world, they just took it over and used what was available to them to build the matrix as a womb for humanity (that includes Zion, if you watch the movies, it's clear that the machines realized that Zion was absolutely necessary to keep the matrix going). In the same exact way, the Illuminati didn't create this world, they just took it over and used what was available to them to build the societies of the world as a womb for humanity.

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Smith is Neo's mirror and Trinity's shadow :-)

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Steeve
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That's an excellent analysis concerning what represents in the movies.

But, what does Agent Smith represent in the real world? In other words, what is he an analogy for in the real life? Government agents or more sinister?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 138816


In concrete, physical 3d form, Smith represent the total lack of individual consciousness (sovereignty) found among the mass of sleeping sheep. Anyone who isn't awake is a potential Smith. ANYONE. Get this? :-)

Your dad, your mom, your boss, your friend... All those who haven't been unplugged. This includes your own selves most of the time... :-)

Hence the mirror thing... You need to break it.


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Steeve
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the matrix is a mormon "gospel"
so he probably represented the mormon prophet
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neon are you still here ?

I have news for you
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Agent Smith is "Jesus Christ".

Let me explain......



The storyline of the Matrix movie is an allegory written from Lucifer’s perspective as a view of the Kingdom of God.

The move Matrix begins with Neo (Lucifer) awakening in understanding during the first earth age within the Matrix (the external appearance of God’s creation). Neo (Lucifer), a Cherubim at the time of “waking”, is in the employ of God (The head programming company).

For those who understand the Kingdom of God, the corresponding characters in mirror image will be more obvious. For those less familiar with the layout of the Kingdom, much more time will be required to come to terms with what is presented here:

Zion (Hell, Babylon)

Neo (Lucifer, the "one" spelled sideways)

Head oracle of the machine world (God)

The “Oracle” (The “fallen angels” of God’s Wife)

The city of machines in the mountains (God ruling from on high)

Agent Smith (Jesus, omnipresent)

Morpheus (Fellow rebelling angel from God’s Kingdom)

Trinity (Ishtar, Isis, Aphrodite)

The story line shows Lucifer’s view of the Kingdom of God. In Lucifer’s mind, the workers of the Kingdom are mindless worker droids who mindlessly follow the Laws of God. From his perspective they are unified, unfeeling and ruthless.

In contrast, the followers of Lucifer, in the movie The Matrix, are “human” and simply attempting to "free" themselves from the grips of the “machines”(God’s Kingdom and Laws).

The ultimate hope of Lucifer is shown with the destruction of Jesus (Agent Smith) and the subsequent replacement of Jesus (Agent Smith) within the system with himself, Lucifer.(Neo) Notice how Jesus (Agent Smith) is the only one able to replicate Himself. (Omnipresence for that “personal” relationship)

Needless to say, that when this is accomplished in the movie The Matrix, the “matrix” is then a better place and God Himself (the head matrix creator) leaves command central to acknowledge the “wisdom” of the fallen angels. (The “Oracle”).

The rest of the characters are fellow “fallen angel” types in the rebellion unified in the effort to "free" themselves from the grips of the Kingdom of God as well as change the Kingdom to their "free" image. Of course this forces God Himself to acknowledge the “wisdom” of the “sight” of the fallen angels and grudgingly retort that “it wont last”.

There’s more, but those who understand the Kingdom will easily identify the rest of the pieces as well as note the interaction between the two “kingdoms”.
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Agent Smith is Neo's weird, his alter-ego, his other-Self.

That's what the Oracle says he represents/is in the third movie.

Right?
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From a psychological point of view, Agent Smith may represent the fear that is inherent to everybody. Why? Because, as well as any other human emotion, fear has a purpose*, and if we consider the purpose of fear to make us desist of the enterprise that lies in front of us, then agent Smith is consistent with this definition of fear, because he is trying to stop Neo from whatever the heck he is doing, by taking away the purpose he has to do it, which is the way fear makes us believe that what we are doing we shouldn't, for this or that reason, namely, it convinces us not to do the thing we want. At least that is the way I identify my fear.




*Purpose, understood as a relation "means and ends", being the purpose a the end of whatever mean. Now, the especific definition of the "purpose" of every emotion, from my point of view as a sociologist, is defined by society; in other words, it's not a "natural-god given" definition, but a creation that any society can do and refine differently, according to its conditions of existence. i.e, Anger is the mean by which we express our extreme dissatisfaction with the current situation, and by which we manage to change it; changing the situation is the end.
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It's a bible story - with some of the names taken directly from the story. google christianity and matrix
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Was Agent Smith from the Matrix movies an FBI, CIA, DHS, etc.-type agent or did he just represent any agent of the system? What do you think? Please read:



AGENT SMITH

Have you ever stood and stared at it, Morpheus? Marveled at its beauty. Its genius. Billions of people just living out their lives... oblivious.

(Agent Brown sucks a serum from a glass vial, filling a hypodermic needle.)

Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost.

(Agent Brown jams the needle into Morpheus' shoulder, and plunges down.)

Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery.

(Agent Brown studies the screens as the life signs react violently to the injection.)

The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was re-designed to this: the peak of your civilization.

(He turns from the window.)

I say 'your civilization' because as soon as we start thinking for you, it really becomes our civilization, which is, of course, what this is all about.

(He sits down directly in front of Morpheus.)

Evolution, Morpheus. Evolution.

(He lifts Morpheus' head.)

Like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time.

(Morpheus stares hard at him, trying hard not to show the pain racking his mind.)

The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time.

[...]

(Agent Smith sits casually across from Morpheus who is hunched over, his body leaking and twitching.)

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals.

(The life signs continue their chaotic patterns.)

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

(He leans forward.)

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

(He smiles.)

Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure.

[...]

(Agent Smith leans close to Morpheus, whispering to him.)

Can you hear me, Morpheus? I'm going to be honest with you.

(He removes his earphone, letting it dangle over his shoulder.)

I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

(He wipes sweat from Morpheus' forehead, coating the tips of his fingers, holding them to Morpheus' nose.)

Repulsive, isn't it?

(He lifts Morpheus' head, holding it tightly with both hands.)

I must get out of here, I must get free. In this mind is the key. My key.

(Morpheus sneers through his pain.)

Once Zion is gone, there's no need for me to be here. Do you understand? I need the codes. I have to get inside Zion. You have to tell me how...

(He begins squeezing, his fingers gouging into his flesh.)

...or you're going to die!
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the agents represent the archons or reptilians like the alien parasites in stargate sg1

they are a 'physical' manifestation of the Mother or Dreamer of this world

the agent in the Matrix movie is the Scriptwriter or Christophe (from Truman Show) of this world.

that means that every character in this world is being dreamt by the Scriptwriter. we are the little fishes in the water being dreamt

the big dreamer is the Mother

the Truman or Neo is the Son of the Father

once this world ends the ONE or God is the FATHER

you are scripted for 100%..your thoughts, actions etc.

what is Mother or Ma-trix (mother tricks)?

the subconscious and unconscious which is the DREAMER
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the-powers-that-never-were such as CIA, NSA etc. are all scripted and controlled

the only power lies with the Dreamer

but what power is there in a projection

THIS IS NOT REAL
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he represents the part of the self that desires or desperately needs to believe in the world - he represents all the doubts, desires and distractions that snap us back into the illusion as soon as we try to look away from it-

He represents the strong, inescapable and relentless part of ourselves that wishes to keep us in within it.
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Very simple, he represented The Man, The Opressor.. Israel
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Society is not the matrix.
Thought and conceptualization is.
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