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The Existence of Zero (Zero Does Exist)

 
Pablo von Gomez  (OP)

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Could this be proof of dark matter or antimatter?

(another joke)



But serious question: Where in the physical universe do negative numbers actually exist?



I'm not talking below zero temperature. That is the measurement system but not actual real negative numbers

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Got it

Negative numbers exist in electricity

You car battery. DC Direct Current has a positive and a negative

Ground goes to zero which is earth

The esrth is ground zero
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Hermit Seb

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12/05/2018 09:13 PM

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As much as "beginning" is.
You can't have a thought without a word, can you now ?
 Quoting: *Siberia*


You can think in something other than words.. Thinking in words is the imagination of speech, but there's also the imagination of the other senses that are also thoughts right?
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You can think in images - no problem.
The images will form a concept which would be worded anyway.
So, as much as you would chase the tail for the pleasure of satisfying a point of view, you'd come back through the process of decoding images into concepts building thoughts and ascribe them words to carry them into frequency.

You know damn well how this work tounge
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Well here we'll have to disagree to agree, because there actually are people who do not think in words, conceptually..

We use these words as our symbols, but other symbols could be used to represent elements of reality that you are discriminating...

Anyway I am pretty sure the word doesn't come first, the nebulous cloudy subconscious notion of tree that comes before you think the word tree is itself based off a number of other concepts, and the tip of the iceburg is the label applied to this conceptual notion, the label "Tree". Granted this is all very subtle and quick.

What do you think? The word tree or "vague image of tree" when you think of a tree?
Please listen closely to what I am about to say: "Hey.. Don't!!"
Pablo von Gomez  (OP)

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12/05/2018 09:22 PM
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Gnesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


So God created water before He created electricity

God created the sun and stars on the fourth day

The light that God created on the first day was electricity that gave the earth its form (gravity) and made the earth not void (empty)
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Pablo von Gomez  (OP)

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Gnesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


So God created water before He created electricity

God created the sun and stars on the fourth day

The light that God created on the first day was electricity that gave the earth its form (gravity) and made the earth not void (empty)
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Darkness upon the face of the deep means border of the deep

God created electricity and the border of the deep inner earth was not dark anymore
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*Siberia*

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12/06/2018 04:37 AM
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As much as "beginning" is.
You can't have a thought without a word, can you now ?
 Quoting: *Siberia*


You can think in something other than words.. Thinking in words is the imagination of speech, but there's also the imagination of the other senses that are also thoughts right?
 Quoting: Hermit Seb



You can think in images - no problem.
The images will form a concept which would be worded anyway.
So, as much as you would chase the tail for the pleasure of satisfying a point of view, you'd come back through the process of decoding images into concepts building thoughts and ascribe them words to carry them into frequency.

You know damn well how this work tounge
 Quoting: *Siberia*


Well here we'll have to disagree to agree, because there actually are people who do not think in words, conceptually..

We use these words as our symbols, but other symbols could be used to represent elements of reality that you are discriminating...

Anyway I am pretty sure the word doesn't come first, the nebulous cloudy subconscious notion of tree that comes before you think the word tree is itself based off a number of other concepts, and the tip of the iceburg is the label applied to this conceptual notion, the label "Tree". Granted this is all very subtle and quick.

What do you think? The word tree or "vague image of tree" when you think of a tree?
 Quoting: Hermit Seb




I think that you have a shortage in your synapses.
Sorry.

Maybe think twice before typing things - in images if you prefer... for me is equal.
Then observe how images translate to words so that you can form a thought with the help of those neurons left in your brain.

What do you think ?

And don't forget to sleep over this: when you think of a tree and you have the image of a tree in mind how do you know that the image shows a tree if you don't have a tree already defined by the word "tree" in mind ?

Have a nice day ahead :-)
Pablo von Gomez  (OP)

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If 1 does not exist then zero does not exist

If 1 does exist then zero comes into existence as the empty space between +1 and -1

Which is true in electricity but you of course cannot have a -1 apple or orange
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Didyabringyabongalong​

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12/07/2018 02:00 AM
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Zero is zero, but not necessarily nothing.

Nothing as I understand it, is the intersection of any set and its complement. Or the complement of the universal set.
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Life is a zero sum game.
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