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Mental Case User ID: 77181776 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars ------- I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller. With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45931 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars Quoting: Mental Case ------- I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller. With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment. Hmm.. the pull from mars on the asteroid would cancel out any effect anyway, right? I mean, the sheer difference in mass involved.. yikes |
Yidna (OP) User ID: 72283344 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You would have to replicate the pull of the sun on something the size of a planet though, because you'd also be fighting that gravity well.. Quoting: Hermit Seb nAH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU'RE IN ORBIT, THERE'S EQUILIBRIUM. THEN YOUR EXPERIMENT ISN'T HUGE, SO YOU HAVE THE SAME PULL ALL THE WAY AROUND. JUST TRY IT. iF i'M WRONG, SUE ME, BUT IF i'M RIGHT, THEN WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON TO GO TO mARS... TO PLAY "gog"... WHOOPS, TYPO... "gOD" |
Yidna (OP) User ID: 72283344 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars Quoting: Mental Case ------- I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller. With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment. i'M INTERESTED IN AN EXPERIMENT VALIDATING MY SHIT. yOU GOT ACTUAL ENERGY THAT YOU WILL EVENTUALLY BE CREATING BY NUKE-PLANT. AND IN THE EXPERIMENT BALL, YOU GOT ACTUAL ENERGY. (a brush-less motor with a gear box and a string winder thingy) IM NOT TALKING ABOUT PERPETUAL MOTION DREAMS, OR ANYTHING RETARDED LIKE THAT. |
Yidna (OP) User ID: 72283344 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars Quoting: Mental Case ------- I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller. With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment. Hmm.. the pull from mars on the asteroid would cancel out any effect anyway, right? I mean, the sheer difference in mass involved.. yikes NO SINCE LONG CORD BIG FAST ROCK, YOU DO THE MATH.... AND TWO ROCKS.. ONE ON EACH SIDE. WE'RE DREAMING NOW CREATING, AND DREAMING'S HOW. |
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Mental Case User ID: 77181776 ![]() 12/06/2018 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you test it... can you move the Pretend-Mars with pull/relax? ------- OK, I think I'm following you. I would say yes, you can move the pretend mars...but it would be directly relational to the size of the pretend mars and the size of the orbiter. Then the orbiter would need it's own thrust to keep pulling in the same direction...or the pull/relax would have to be precisely timed to pull only when the orbiter is in a certain location. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
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Yidna (OP) User ID: 72283344 ![]() 12/06/2018 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you test it... can you move the Pretend-Mars with pull/relax? Quoting: Mental Case ------- OK, I think I'm following you. I would say yes, you can move the pretend mars...but it would be directly relational to the size of the pretend mars and the size of the orbiter. Then the orbiter would need it's own thrust to keep pulling in the same direction...or the pull/relax would have to be precisely timed to pull only when the orbiter is in a certain location. YES, THE PRECISE TIMING ONE, BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME YOU WANT TO THRUST IT IS TO DROP THE ROPE... THEN YOU WOULD THRUST OUT AND ALSO SIDEWAYS TO KEEP IN GEO-SYNC. hOOK THIS DROPPED ROPE TO THE PULLEY ROPE YOU'VE READIED ON THE SURFACE, LET IT OUT (another thrusting) TO APPROXIMATELY THE CENTER OF THE IN-OUT OF THE PULL/RELAX YOU WILL BE DOING DAILY, AND STEADY THE GEO-SYNC. nOW, WHEN YOU PULL/RELAX, YOU WILL BE FINDING THE PERFECT DISTANCE IN AND OUT FROM STEADY GEO-SYNC DISTANCE, and you'll already have a clue about it since you made the model first. Last Edited by Yidna on 12/06/2018 09:11 PM |
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Yidna (OP) User ID: 72283344 ![]() 12/06/2018 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would take sooooo much energy. Don't know how a machine can be built strong enough to change the momentum of 6.39 × 10^23 kg Quoting: Nonentity Or if little bits at a time, how many swings would it take? I wonder if you could hammer out the physics. we live for thousands of generations... hope millions, or an infinity number of them. we don't have to finish some of the things we'll be starting. |
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CUB4DK User ID: 46770949 ![]() 12/06/2018 10:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT fuckin sounds like Twiddle Dee Dee and Twiddle Dee Dumb on this thread ![]() Last Edited by CUB4DK on 12/06/2018 10:54 PM CUB4DK |
Mental Case User ID: 66072341 ![]() 12/06/2018 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ------- Yup, that's what I was thinking...but I didn't catch at first that OP wants to move the fake mars. I'm not seeing the geo-sync. It would have to be a full planetary orbit that pulls when it's at one certain point and then relax for the rest of the orbit. It would only pull for 1-2% of the orbit. The pulling effect would be incredibly small. But it would exist. It would be like in the movie GRAVITY where the man & woman were tied together in space & kept moving towards eachother then away from eachother. It would be very difficult to control the movments. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |