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An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:

 
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An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
You want to know what happens when you get an asteroid hooked up in greater-geosynchronous orbit to Mars, and whether you can use pull-relax method to move planet.

You make a room in space so you can find out.

No gravity and the room is big, so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars that has a pull/relax function built into it.

Then you test it... can you move the Pretend-Mars with pull/relax?

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
Alright, what's your poison? That must be some good shit!

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
ALL WHILE KEEPING THE ROPE TAUGHT.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
Alright, what's your poison? That must be some good shit!

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
You have to use something of greater mass to pull with.

Use the earth. There is always ground.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
YOU MUST DO THIS WHOLE EXPERIMENT WITH NO ATMOSPHERE IN THE EXPERIMENT TENT, OR YOU CAN JUST DO IT OUT IN THE OPEN.

PRETTY EASY TO JUST DO IT.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
You would have to replicate the pull of the sun on something the size of a planet though, because you'd also be fighting that gravity well..
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars

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I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller.

With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars

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I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller.

With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment.
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Hmm.. the pull from mars on the asteroid would cancel out any effect anyway, right? I mean, the sheer difference in mass involved.. yikes
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
You would have to replicate the pull of the sun on something the size of a planet though, because you'd also be fighting that gravity well..
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nAH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU'RE IN ORBIT, THERE'S EQUILIBRIUM.

THEN YOUR EXPERIMENT ISN'T HUGE, SO YOU HAVE THE SAME PULL ALL THE WAY AROUND.

JUST TRY IT. iF i'M WRONG, SUE ME, BUT IF i'M RIGHT, THEN WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON TO GO TO mARS... TO PLAY "gog"... WHOOPS, TYPO... "gOD"
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars

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I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller.

With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment.
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i'M INTERESTED IN AN EXPERIMENT VALIDATING MY SHIT.

yOU GOT ACTUAL ENERGY THAT YOU WILL EVENTUALLY BE CREATING BY NUKE-PLANT.

AND IN THE EXPERIMENT BALL, YOU GOT ACTUAL ENERGY. (a brush-less motor with a gear box and a string winder thingy)

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT PERPETUAL MOTION DREAMS, OR ANYTHING RETARDED LIKE THAT.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
so you can orbit a rock on a rope around a pretend-mars

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I think you're forgetting you would have equal pull on the rock and the puller.

With each relax and pull, both objects would move towards eachother so it wouldn't work in a zero gravity environment.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Hmm.. the pull from mars on the asteroid would cancel out any effect anyway, right? I mean, the sheer difference in mass involved.. yikes
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NO SINCE LONG CORD BIG FAST ROCK, YOU DO THE MATH.... AND TWO ROCKS.. ONE ON EACH SIDE.

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
sOMEONE'S OUT THERE:

WHAHH, HOW AM I EVER GONNA COME UP WITH THE RIGHT IDEA?

SMOKE WEED AND ASK.

i NEVER WANTED ALL THESE IDEAS... ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS SMOKE DOPE EVERY DAY LIKE I ALWAYS PROMISED MY FRIENDS I WOULD DO TILL I DIE.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
Then you test it... can you move the Pretend-Mars with pull/relax?

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OK, I think I'm following you.

I would say yes, you can move the pretend mars...but it would be directly relational to the size of the pretend mars and the size of the orbiter.

Then the orbiter would need it's own thrust to keep pulling in the same direction...or the pull/relax would have to be precisely timed to pull only when the orbiter is in a certain location.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
aND i'M NOT SAYING i DONT LIKE THE iDEAS.... i LIKE THE iDEAS.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
Then you test it... can you move the Pretend-Mars with pull/relax?

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OK, I think I'm following you.

I would say yes, you can move the pretend mars...but it would be directly relational to the size of the pretend mars and the size of the orbiter.

Then the orbiter would need it's own thrust to keep pulling in the same direction...or the pull/relax would have to be precisely timed to pull only when the orbiter is in a certain location.
 Quoting: Mental Case


YES, THE PRECISE TIMING ONE, BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME YOU WANT TO THRUST IT IS TO DROP THE ROPE... THEN YOU WOULD THRUST OUT AND ALSO SIDEWAYS TO KEEP IN GEO-SYNC.

hOOK THIS DROPPED ROPE TO THE PULLEY ROPE YOU'VE READIED ON THE SURFACE, LET IT OUT (another thrusting) TO APPROXIMATELY THE CENTER OF THE IN-OUT OF THE PULL/RELAX YOU WILL BE DOING DAILY, AND STEADY THE GEO-SYNC.

nOW, WHEN YOU PULL/RELAX, YOU WILL BE FINDING THE PERFECT DISTANCE IN AND OUT FROM STEADY GEO-SYNC DISTANCE, and you'll already have a clue about it since you made the model first.

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
It would take sooooo much energy. Don't know how a machine can be built strong enough to change the momentum of 6.39 × 10^23 kg

Or if little bits at a time, how many swings would it take?

I wonder if you could hammer out the physics.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
It would take sooooo much energy. Don't know how a machine can be built strong enough to change the momentum of 6.39 × 10^23 kg

Or if little bits at a time, how many swings would it take?

I wonder if you could hammer out the physics.
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we live for thousands of generations... hope millions, or an infinity number of them.

we don't have to finish some of the things we'll be starting.
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
aND i'M NOT SAYING i DONT LIKE THE iDEAS.... i LIKE THE iDEAS.
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What does that even Fuckin' mean???wtf
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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
IT fuckin sounds like Twiddle Dee Dee and Twiddle Dee Dumb on this threadlolsign

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Re: An experiment... i don't know if it's a good one:
Hmm.. the pull from mars on the asteroid would cancel out any effect anyway, right? I mean, the sheer difference in mass involved.. yikes

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Yup, that's what I was thinking...but I didn't catch at first that OP wants to move the fake mars.

I'm not seeing the geo-sync.

It would have to be a full planetary orbit that pulls when it's at one certain point and then relax for the rest of the orbit.

It would only pull for 1-2% of the orbit.

The pulling effect would be incredibly small. But it would exist.

It would be like in the movie GRAVITY where the man & woman were tied together in space & kept moving towards eachother then away from eachother. It would be very difficult to control the movments.
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