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Message Subject Tramadol - the danger and the lies
Poster Handle MountainTux NLI
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I completely agree. It does not have the effects when taking for pain as when taking for recreation. Tramadol...whoa..nasty stuff. People are better off with the natural substance. They should probably take the acetaminophen out and it wouldn't be as dangerous
 Quoting: zzcat


I think one of the issues with withdrawal is because it acts on monoamine transporters to inhibit the reuptake of norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine. If you withdraw off something that affects brain chemistry this way over the long term, you would be a mess.

I took it for awhile for pain but noticed that it felt more like an antidepressant than pain medication. It did bring an overall sense of contentment and regained energy levels - short term anyway. I was never addicted..... I prefer the natural route. All pharmaceuticals IMHO tend to lead to the need for another in order to treat the side effect caused by the first. No thanks.
 Quoting: akasuzanne


And you see, that's my concern with narcotics, and more so pharmaceuticals... you need pills to counteract pills which lead to pills to enhance the effects of pills that counteract...

You see where I'm going?

Mind you, I won't put any of that stuff in my body. My friends used to call me a "chicken," because I wouldn't try coke, or acid, even shrooms. But I have no DESIRE to hallucinate, be out of control, have "mind-altering" experiences, never have. I know some people find it safe and relaxing... I couldn't deal with the complete loss of control and handle on reality. The thought creeps me out.

I understand that for some in limited situations there's a case for narcotics... but I also KNOW through my experience with pain clinics and bored doctors that probably 2/3 of the people they are KILLING with this stuff don't actually need it. I deal with my arthritis and sciatica just fine without, as does my wife, adding of course the chronic pain and sensitivity thanks to a permanently damaged pain center and inner ear.
SO I fully admit to having a hard tome when someone asserts how much that they "need this stuff forever..." especially those that are PROUD of being on disability.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


The truth is when you take opiates long term, it perpetuates your pain and causes more pain, thus you need more and more medication. Throw in tolerance, and the cycle leads people to believe they can never stop taking it. I can attest to the fact that off pain meds for a period of time you will have less pain.

If you take the extra steps to address the root cause of your issues with specific diets, herbs, food sourced vitamins and minerals you can address most illnesses. Obviously not all, but, most, unless you dabble in pharmaceuticals which treat symptoms and not causes and prevent your body from healing itself. Of course, this keeps physician's and pharmaceutical companies rolling in the dough so it will never change unless one chooses to do the research and the work.
 Quoting: akasuzanne


This makes a lot of sense, and again, thank you for sharing. I'm getting a lot of informative facts and insights here, from you and others, and it's great, I really appreciate it!
 
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