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UPDATES: Reports of a coup underway against UK PM Theresa May(pg. 64)-UK Government on verge of collapse

 
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does she seriously think she will be PM for another two years of fake EU negotiations?
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YES.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Time for Queen Elizabeth to step up to the plate and fulfill her duty to country by not giving royal assent to any Brexit dodging laws they want to pass.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


I think the dark forces she spoke of have enough dirt on her Dysfunctional family to keep her buttoned until her passing.

God bless her.
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Only a matter of time before people take matters into their own hands then.

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Downing Street briefing just broken up. Ministers who voted against the whip tonight will be expected to resign, those who abstain *will not*.
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YES.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Time for Queen Elizabeth to step up to the plate and fulfill her duty to country by not giving royal assent to any Brexit dodging laws they want to pass.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


I think the dark forces she spoke of have enough dirt on her Dysfunctional family to keep her buttoned until her passing.

God bless her.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Only a matter of time before people take matters into their own hands then.

:pitchfork:
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


People will just carry on as normal, sorry to sound downbeat I just don't have faith no more after today.
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Now they saying on sly news May's deal will be put to a 3rd vote next week and will prob pass. Its over folks.
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Don't mind me and my common sense but why don't you just leave without a deal and pull a Donald J Trump and renegotiate new deals as they come along.

You'd at least get what YOU want that way instead of what the EU wants.
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Time for Queen Elizabeth to step up to the plate and fulfill her duty to country by not giving royal assent to any Brexit dodging laws they want to pass.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


I think the dark forces she spoke of have enough dirt on her Dysfunctional family to keep her buttoned until her passing.

God bless her.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Only a matter of time before people take matters into their own hands then.

pitchfork
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


People will just carry on as normal, sorry to sound downbeat I just don't have faith no more after today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77436264


Aye, after such a shitshow I can't blame you for not having much confidence for a positive outcome. But this is a matter of survival now and I don't see the British lion going down without a fight!
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I think the dark forces she spoke of have enough dirt on her Dysfunctional family to keep her buttoned until her passing.

God bless her.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Only a matter of time before people take matters into their own hands then.

:pitchfork:
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


People will just carry on as normal, sorry to sound downbeat I just don't have faith no more after today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77436264


Aye, after such a shitshow I can't blame you for not having much confidence for a positive outcome. But this is a matter of survival now and I don't see the British lion going down without a fight!
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


All we can do is look out for our families etc, because down the line once those UN migration pact quotas hit and brexit is a distant memory things will get bad.
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Don't mind me and my common sense but why don't you just leave without a deal and pull a Donald J Trump and renegotiate new deals as they come along.

You'd at least get what YOU want that way instead of what the EU wants.
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because a majority of our representatives dont want to leave despite the public voting for leave. it's revolution time... 230 years late
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Don't mind me and my common sense but why don't you just leave without a deal and pull a Donald J Trump and renegotiate new deals as they come along.

You'd at least get what YOU want that way instead of what the EU wants.
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Our elected representatives were given a mandate by the electorate to get us out of the EU without a deal, so we could then make our own independent trade deals. But now they've changed their mind, or rather their true colours are showing, and every effort is being made to actually make us even more subservient to the EU than we were before we voted.
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@Nigel_Farage
46m46 minutes ago

This is a Parliament of outright liars.

We will have to fight them again.

And mark my words — we will beat them once more.



Sounds like Farage is gearing himself up for another referendum vote... Sorry Nigel but no more referendums, no more games, enough is enough.
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Sarah Newton becomes 15th member of the govt to resign over Brexit
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I don't think it's all over yet, there's a reason Rees Mogg said and I quote,

"Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Tory Brexiter, asks the speaker to confirm that a motion of the house does not override statute law."

John Bercow, the speaker, confirms that that is the case.

Ok ..........let's say they can't work out a deal with the

EU, then surely we revert back to the default which is

leave on WTO.

The vote rejecting the "no deal" is not legally binding,

and there's no extension to article 50, ............

Believe me this is not over.
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Why the no-deal amendment does not definitely rule out no deal
It is important to stress, of course, that the Spelman amendment passed a few minutes ago does not definitely rule out a no-deal Brexit.

There are two reasons for that.

First, it is not a binding amendment. It is not legislation, and it is not a motion that gives a formal instruction to the government (like the “humble address” motions).

The government could choose to accept it, and treat it as binding, but it has not said yet that it will. And even if it did ...

Second, it is not within the government’s power to rule out no deal (in the terms of the motion) because it does not call for article 50 to be revoked (which would probably require separate legislation anyway). Caroline Spelman and Jack Dromey, who tabled it, intended it to signal that ministers should extend article 50 in the event of no deal being agreed. But, as Theresa May says repeatedly, that only postpones the problem.


Quote is taken from the Guardian.

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The Brexiter Mark Francois has told Sky News that collective discipline in the Conservative party has collapsed:


On decision not to sack ministers who abstained on the no-deal vote, Conservative MP Mark Francois tells Sky News's @BethRigby: "The collective responsibility has disintegrated - you might as well tell the whips to pack up and go home. The government is barely in office"
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the options that should be put to the house

UK++ (custom union / single market)
mays deal
no deal
referendum to REMAIN OR LEAVE WITH NO DEAL

get them to vote until one remains and I DO NOT CARE WHICH ONE
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Yes clock, but tomorrow is set aside for the votes on article 50 extension. May said the vote options will be for a 2 month extension (to enable the time for legislation to be passed in the event that her deal passes next week), or if they aren't interested in her deal then they can vote for the years long extension.

Either way, as long as the May government is in power then they will treat the no-deal vote result as binding.
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Watch this space bud, .........all is not over.tounge tounge tounge
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Watch this space bud, .........all is not over.tounge tounge tounge
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wish I had yer optimism chuckle
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How did my MP vote on no-deal?

To find out how your MP voted use the look-up below.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)]
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May tells MPs if they do not back Brexit deal soon, she will have to seek a long article 50 extension

[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]
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does she seriously think she will be PM for another two years of fake EU negotiations?
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


YES.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Time for Queen Elizabeth to step up to the plate and fulfill her duty to country by not giving royal assent to any Brexit dodging laws they want to pass.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


The Queen allowed her son to marry a person of colour.
That should tell you everything you need to know about where the royal family stand on the issue.
Combined with the E.U migration pact that is going to flood the U.K with millions more 3rd worlders...
It seems they are onboard with the E.U utopia/hell.
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Where are all the protesters today after last night? no one seems to bothered uk is finished
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Where are all the protesters today after last night? no one seems to bothered uk is finished
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Because there's no final decision, we'll know more today

who knows it may go our way, ...........wait and see.
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If EU says no to an extension we will just be out of EU won’t we ?

Then we will have to get our democracy working properly .

They are fiddling the candidates ,forcing the constituencies to take the party’s choice . and there are far too many people in Parliament and the Lords is totally over stocked .

One way of decluttering would be to demand a good grade in maths A level to be a candidate . It would also mean they would hopefully stop wasting huge ammounts of tax payers money .if they got in ..like giving money to a ferry company with no ships and that ridiculous railway they wish to build .
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Where are all the protesters today after last night? no one seems to bothered uk is finished
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They'll be a few out protesting but the rest of the population doesn't really care much, so long as they have their comforts and distractions.
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the car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel

and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides

and a dark wind blows

the government is corrupt

and we're on so many drugs

with the radio on and the curtains drawn

we're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine

and the machine is bleeding to death

the sun has fallen down

and the billboards are all leering

and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles


it went like this:

the buildings tumbled in on themselves

mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble

and pulled out their hair
the skyline was beautiful on fire

all twisted metal stretching upwards

everything washed…



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"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices" George Orwell.
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East England MEP tweets:


Patrick O'Flynn

@oflynnmep
Those of a nervous disposition look away now: I've just been told by a normally very reliable Europarl source that the EU currently plans to offer May a FOUR YEAR extension if she comes begging next week


[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Wow, there really will be a revolution at hand at this rate.
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If EU says no to an extension we will just be out of EU won’t we ?
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The UK parliament can unilaterally revoke article 50 I think.
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David Lidington, Theresa May's de facto deputy, will open today's Brexit debate, as MPs prepare to vote on delaying Article 50. Voting will start at 5pm.

A number of amendments have been tabled, including one for a second referendum - and another that rules it out.
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This second referendum is none sense, let's say Brexiteers

won it would Theresa May honour it, like f*ck She would,

She'd tell us once again that there's a deal to be had,

no this has to be won outright and it's still possible,

a slight one I grant you, .........but still possible.
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