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UPDATES: UK govt loses third vote on rotten Brexit deal, motion of no confidence looming? (pg. 71)-UK Government on verge of collapse

 
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Just watch the EU will deny the request........watch this

space, We know how them f*ckers play!!!!
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They could be heroes...just for one day.
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You mean the EU bud.........help us ohno

There won't be a chance in hell, they'll use it to turn the screw.....watch.
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Re: UPDATES: UK govt loses third vote on rotten Brexit deal, motion of no confidence looming? (pg. 71)-UK Government on verge of collapse
So many 'what ifs' still at play. BERKow could even end up being the accidental hero of the hour if he refuses to allow May's deal to be brought again to a meaningful vote next week, because of rules that state the exact same thing can't be voted on twice in a single session of parliament.


Could John Bercow stop Theresa May putting her Brexit deal to Parliament for a third vote?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)]
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He gave Theresa a second chance by using that law last time

he'll work with Her I'm sure.
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Whatever he decides, he'll announce it with all the arrogance, bumptiousness and pomposity he revels in.
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The EU will be ruthless in their negotiations now, they have us against the ropes, and they won't miss this opportunity.
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Don't worry. Despite all this treachery we WILL get Brexit.

Trust me.
 Quoting: Tess.


What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
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The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
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Don't worry. Despite all this treachery we WILL get Brexit.

Trust me.
 Quoting: Tess.


What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
 Quoting: Tess.


I said this earlier...Glad you think the same.
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To bad the Brits won't do to the governing elite what the colonists did to the crown.
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As suspected lots of moaning etc, if it was france people would be protesting already.
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Voting proven fully pointless now, feck it.
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That;s why I haven't voted in 30 years, feckin joke
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How is that working out for you?
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lol I keep getting threatened with a fine for refusing to register, IF my vote really mattered would they resort to threats? I refuse to register as I believe it is giving Consent and I don't consent to any of them, ALL the same apart from the colour they wear
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Yeah I'm off-register too. For an additional, vital reason: i won't sign up because they won't keep my name off the publicly available list of voters/addresses to protect me from a psychopath who spent nearly 12yrs literally trying to murder me.

The response of the authorities was appalling throughout, 2 'LEOs' on the local team went to jail for negligence. But still there's no help for people targeted by fixated individuals or any other offender (unless you're royal or in whatever happens to be the politikally korrekt group-of-the month).
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So...this is how I know for sure that all this government /MPs/democracy/public services shit is just a fantasy, a well-crafted mirage. Nothing really works well enough in the UK for the vast majority of brits.

I don't see merit in consorting with wonky circus ringmasters and shysters.
I ignore the threats.
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What do you make of this?



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Don't worry. Despite all this treachery we WILL get Brexit.

Trust me.
 Quoting: Tess.


What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
 Quoting: Tess.


I said this earlier...Glad you think the same.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Hate to be a negative Ned, but a no deal Brexit is the no.1 thing the EU want to avoid at all costs cause the EU budgets would implode. If the EU granting us a long extension and having us elect members to the EU parliament is the only option available to them to ensure a delay or denial of a no-deal Brexit then that's exactly what they will do.

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As suspected lots of moaning etc, if it was france people would be protesting already.
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Too true.
But tptb have brits all sewn up. The last british civil war was centuries ago. The British Republic lasted all of 5or 6 years under a dictator called Cromwell.
No one wanted that again.

So they made damned sure it can't.
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That video up above is worth a watch.
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What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
 Quoting: Tess.


I said this earlier...Glad you think the same.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Hate to be a negative Ned, but a no deal Brexit is the no.1 thing the EU want to avoid at all costs cause the EU budgets would implode. If the EU granting us a long extension and having us elect members to the EU parliament is the only option available to them to ensure a delay or denial of a no-deal Brexit then that's exactly what they will do.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019

They can't run a budget if every proposal is blocked by populist MEPs. They literally couldn't function. Best they can do is let us leave and take billions from us for trade deals.
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Populism rise it is then in UK
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Makes sense Tess.
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Sly news biff Bolton in a lovely mood.
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Don't worry. Despite all this treachery we WILL get Brexit.

Trust me.
 Quoting: Tess.


What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
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And yet the EU President said earlier that a long delay could be acceptable.
a.k.a: BadMoonRising
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Playing a hand.
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Don't worry. Despite all this treachery we WILL get Brexit.

Trust me.
 Quoting: Tess.


What makes you believe that Tess?

I've ordered my yellow jacket.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The EU won't extend long enough for us to be able to vote in their May elections. Otherwise they'll be inundated by anti EU MEPs. They're already under pressure from populist parties in Europe who are putting up candidates. If we add ours to that lot the EU won't be able to function.
 Quoting: Tess.


And yet the EU President said earlier that a long delay could be acceptable.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


I see that as an empty threat if we don't vote for Mays deal.
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What do you make of this?



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Sadly, all too believable.
Makes sense of good guy David Davies' sudden, odd resignation from May's so called Brexit team.

It makes sense oF May's ultra secret handling of the 'brexit negotiations' all along. She's had 3 years to agree the divorce. 3 more months isn't going to help anything.

It makes sense of the massive rebellious mess of Parliament now. MPs of all stripes are now getting a chance to really show their disfavour.

(For our American and other foreign friends - this really is the biggest UK government/constitutional crisis in centuries. If fortune and justice prevail it should lead to a modern day Magna Carta.)
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Just wait and see what the EU will come out with tomorrow

I have a feeling they'll be showing their teeth.
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And yet the EU President said earlier that a long delay could be acceptable.
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The president of the European Council has said he is open to a “long” delay to Brexit if the UK needs time to rethink its strategy to leaving the bloc.

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Remember the obscure law he used, the one never used in the commons ever?
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well, I read last night that it was last used about 300 years ago...
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All the time we're contributing to their coffers, they'd wait 10yrs as long as we keep paying.
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Remember the obscure law he used, the one never used in the commons ever?
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well, I read last night that it was last used about 300 years ago...
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Got you bud......thanks for the info, I wasn't entirely sure.
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(For our American and other foreign friends - this really is the biggest UK government/constitutional crisis in centuries. If fortune and justice prevail it should lead to a modern day Magna Carta.
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trump-HRYK
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I hate to admit it but I find this all very complicated. That said, I am all for sticking it to the EU, one way or the other.
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MPs voting on Hilary Benn amendment, which is co-signed by Lincolnshire MP @NickBoles It would allow MPs to hold series of indicative votes next week, suggesting alternative ways forward for Brexit
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


Ben's father would be disgusted
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Yes, he absolutely would. RIP Tony Benn = one of the very best,fairest and most principled PMs we never had. Like John Smith, RIP.

Back on topic. So if MPs can now concoct an alternative deal in only 2 weeks , what the fuck have May and her gang been doing for 3yrs??
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I hate to admit it but I find this all very complicated. That said, I am all for sticking it to the EU, one way or the other.
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I think most of us are thinking as you are, it's a lot to take in and has a lot of out-comes/implications.
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