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What Would Space Look Like WITHOUT the BLACKNESS?

 
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Isaiah 50:3 I clothe the heavens with blackness, and I make sackcloth their covering.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.



These two verses sound like the "Blackness" in space was created by "God".


This makes me wonder...if a time existed where space was NOT "black". Or if at a time in the future this "Blackness" may be removed.



So what would space look like without the Blackness?



Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
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Bizarre 'dark fluid' with negative mass could dominate the universe

It's embarrassing, but astrophysicists are the first to admit it. Our best theoretical model can only explain 5% of the universe. The remaining 95% is famously made up almost entirely of invisible, unknown material dubbed dark energy and dark matter. So even though there are a billion trillion stars in the observable universe, they are actually extremely rare.

The two mysterious dark substances can only be inferred from gravitational effects. Dark matter may be an invisible material, but it exerts a gravitational force on surrounding matter that we can measure. Dark energy is a repulsive force that makes the universe expand at an accelerating rate. The two have always been treated as separate phenomena. But my new study, published in Astronomy and Astrophysics, suggests they may both be part of the same strange concept – a single, unified "dark fluid" of negative masses.



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I bet it would be FKIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!
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Black hole 'donuts' are actually 'fountains'

Based on computer simulations and new observations from the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA), researchers have found that the rings of gas surrounding active supermassive black holes are not simple donut shapes. Instead, gas expelled from the center interacts with infalling gas to create a dynamic circulation pattern, similar to a water fountain in a city park.

Most galaxies host a supermassive black hole, millions or billions of times as heavy as the Sun, in their centers. Some of these black holes swallow material quite actively. But astronomers have believed that rather than falling directly into the black hole, matter instead builds up around the active black hole forming a donut structure.



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I think the "BLACKNESS" was FUNNELED into our space through "FOUNTAINS"


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Black hole 'donuts' are actually 'fountains'

Based on computer simulations and new observations from the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA), researchers have found that the rings of gas surrounding active supermassive black holes are not simple donut shapes. Instead, gas expelled from the center interacts with infalling gas to create a dynamic circulation pattern, similar to a water fountain in a city park.

Most galaxies host a supermassive black hole, millions or billions of times as heavy as the Sun, in their centers. Some of these black holes swallow material quite actively. But astronomers have believed that rather than falling directly into the black hole, matter instead builds up around the active black hole forming a donut structure.



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I think the "BLACKNESS" was FUNNELED into our space through "FOUNTAINS"


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Well space isn't actually totally black - there are stray photons all over the place huh?
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Well space isn't actually totally black - there are stray photons all over the place huh?
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and it is BEAUTIFUL all ready


now imagine it without.

Aint no telling what is actually IN the black either...

could be literally anything....


physics is a tough subject to grasp.

But it is BEAUTIFUL all ready...WITH the blackness....



Imagine if it was ALL light and color.

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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
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No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
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here is how I imagine it


an artist first has a canvas

the canvas is spread

high mass light objects are placed across it

like an artist may blob a glob of paint


these high mass objects create indentations in the canvas


creating time wells

these indentations created tears in the fabric

making black holes

fountains in which dark liquid negative matter spews



its sorta relativity

this means certain things also
like time travel

light and negative light attractions and reactions

so travel will literally require little to no propulsion


its all connected anyways.

get me?
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I wonder alot.
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


correct


if functionality upon that requires our brains to process the information
and is "tuned down" to a certain degree anyways
perhaps upon death and removal of the physical we gain access to the light vibrational aspect of the rest of creation.
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I like these topics :-)... very curious..

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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


correct


if functionality upon that requires our brains to process the information
and is "tuned down" to a certain degree anyways
perhaps upon death and removal of the physical we gain access to the light vibrational aspect of the rest of creation.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


or perhaps death would not be required at all

perhaps meditative states and altered brain waves any also achieve the same results

since it is all vibration and frequency anyways.

get me?
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if functionality upon that requires our brains to process the information
and is "tuned down" to a certain degree anyways
perhaps upon death and removal of the physical we gain access to the light vibrational aspect of the rest of creation.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


1dunno1

This mind, perfectly and fully realized,
Moves with a clear, tranquil spiritual awareness.
It encompasses heaven, covers the earth,
Penetrates form, and rides upon sound.
It is a boundless openness;
It is a summit rising with forbidding abruptness.
It is a radiant light shining from the crown of your head,
Illuminating wherever you are;
It is an awesome wind, rising up at each step you take,
Enveloping all things
If you are able to make this mind your own,
Then even though you do not seek excellence yourself,
Excellence comes to you of its own accord.
Without seeking emancipation,
You are not hindered by a single thing.

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Why wait until you are dead?
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


correct


if functionality upon that requires our brains to process the information
and is "tuned down" to a certain degree anyways
perhaps upon death and removal of the physical we gain access to the light vibrational aspect of the rest of creation.
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


or perhaps death would not be required at all

perhaps meditative states and altered brain waves any also achieve the same results

since it is all vibration and frequency anyways.

get me?
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


the brain is all vibration and waves too

alpha beta theta delta gamma

I did a thread earlier about it


so it is all literally made up of the same energetic process

and our brains all ready naturally process information in the PRE EXISTING frequencies.
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Withdraw now from
the invisible pounding and weaving
of your ingrained ideas.
If you want to be rid of this
invisible turmoil, you must just sit
through it and let go of everything.
Attain fulfillment and illuminate thoroughly.
Light and shadow altogether forgotten.
Drop off your own skin,
and the sense-dusts will be fully purified.
The eye then readily discerns the brightness.

- Hongzhi Zhengjue (1091–1157)
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a computer circuit has paths for light to travel.

it also has vents for cooling currents


its all machinery and designed madness


I love it.

The greatest puzzle EVER.
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One last one lol

Shining of the sun and moon,
As profound as the constant flow
Of the rivers and streams.
If it is somehow blocked or obstructed,
Clear away the blockages and break
Through the obstructions and you will
Again see the basic essence.
The reason why the ancients
Gave this such urgency and
Such emphasis is precisely that
They wanted us to make whole
This ever-shining, ever-bright essence.

— Zou Shouyi (1491-1562)
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Withdraw now from
the invisible pounding and weaving
of your ingrained ideas.
If you want to be rid of this
invisible turmoil, you must just sit
through it and let go of everything.
Attain fulfillment and illuminate thoroughly.
Light and shadow altogether forgotten.
Drop off your own skin,
and the sense-dusts will be fully purified.
The eye then readily discerns the brightness.

- Hongzhi Zhengjue (1091–1157)
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


the answers are within

:)
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the answers are within

:)
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Oh yes, I had another one too that refers to the brightness, so to speak:

Put down your myriad of concerns and wake up. At the end of the road it’s like an iron wall. False thoughts are all extinguished, and extinguishing is wiped away. Body and mind seem to be resting on the void. In the stillness a light reaches everywhere with its brilliance.

- T’aego
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
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No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


We all see color about the same, within something like %99.99 similarity, other than people with visual defects like color blindness.

The Munsell Color system, which is used by painters and numerous industries alike, for standardizing a system of color notation, would not work otherwise.
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
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No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


We all see color about the same, within something like %99.99 similarity, other than people with visual defects like color blindness.

The Munsell Color system, which is used by painters and numerous industries alike, for standardizing a system of color notation, would not work otherwise.
 Quoting: BFD


my grandfather was colorblind and a gunner in a heli during nam

he told me they used him because he could spot camo
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its like instead of thinking light as having a "SPEED"

imagine it as a slowed down CONSTANT.
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We all see color about the same, within something like %99.99 similarity, other than people with visual defects like color blindness.

The Munsell Color system, which is used by painters and numerous industries alike, for standardizing a system of color notation, would not work otherwise.
 Quoting: BFD


From what I gather, what they are saying is that we do NOT see the same color, but we AGREE that what we are seeing is such and such color, because we are looking at the same thing.. uh..

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"Besides our individual biological make up, color perception is less about seeing what is actually out there and more about how our brain interprets colors to create something meaningful. The perception of color mainly occurs inside our heads and so is subjective—and prone to personal experience."
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its like instead of thinking light as having a "SPEED"

imagine it as a slowed down CONSTANT.
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like a HUGE beautiful painting

full of light and colors
vibrations sounds and LOVE

then smear black tar across it in areas
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
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No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


We all see color about the same, within something like %99.99 similarity, other than people with visual defects like color blindness.

The Munsell Color system, which is used by painters and numerous industries alike, for standardizing a system of color notation, would not work otherwise.
 Quoting: BFD


What color is that red...

I see Scarlet, I see Ruby, I see apple red??? lmao

In Munsell it would be something like 2.5R 4/12.

The numbers in the notation represent Hue, Value, and Chroma.
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Imagine if it was ALL light and color.
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No such thing, as light is a particle/wave - it's your own neural functionality that makes it "color" and "light". And get this.. the color you see is not the color anyone else sees, it is unique to your own eyes.. Even if we both look at the same red block, we'll see a different red, but since we agree to call what we see the same thing, we assume that it's the same color. Ha. Your red could actually be my blue!
 Quoting: Hermit Seb


We all see color about the same, within something like %99.99 similarity, other than people with visual defects like color blindness.

The Munsell Color system, which is used by painters and numerous industries alike, for standardizing a system of color notation, would not work otherwise.
 Quoting: BFD


my grandfather was colorblind and a gunner in a heli during nam

he told me they used him because he could spot camo
 Quoting: Mr.Wonderpants


That's interesting, so they were exploiting the Metameric differences in the way he perceived color.
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in the beginning everything was light. the blackness was after the universe cooled. The light that once was is now detected as CMB or CMBR.
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It is fun to Wonder about the Wondrous things in our Wonderful existence.

I have to go.

I love you all.
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I imagine it has the colors of a Whirly Pop.

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