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Iamvoltron User ID: 75731709 United States 12/11/2018 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar + Powerwall would allow you to stay grid tied, but also act as backup once the grid goes. The same can't be said if you have solar and are grid tied. Quoting: Iamvoltron Another option is propane tank and natural gas powered generator. Very cheap and very reliable. Propane last almost indefinitely when stored in a tank versus say having a gasoline powered generator. Diesel lasts longer, but also can go bad if stored for longer than year. A 100 gallon propane tank will last 92 hours running it straight. That's not a real long time. Refilling it under a power outage would be hard. Pumps on wells run on electricity. I installed a hand pump and looking into solar pump. Heat from fireplaces usually goes up the chimney. Wood cooking stove is the way to go. In an ideal world you would have a 500 or even 1000 gallon tank and would only be running it when necessary. Combined with a battery bank to store the excess power and you could make it last for a few months if you absolutely had to. |
Still User ID: 72220886 United States 12/11/2018 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sincerely doubt the viability of an EMP strike. I think they are overplaying the effectiveness of such an attack/technology. Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS Short of that I don't see any enemy state being able to take down the grid nationwide. Perhaps locally but not more than that. Either way... Get a generator and or solar panels. Even more likely...when the gov starts putting out stuff like this we are on the verge of a recession. Trying to scare people to buy stuff they really don’t need and will end up tossing a few months later. Hoping to prop up the economy a bit longer. |
Sikhed User ID: 5898996 United States 12/11/2018 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In an ideal world you would have a 500 or even 1000 gallon tank and would only be running it when necessary. Combined with a battery bank to store the excess power and you could make it last for a few months if you absolutely had to. Quoting: Iamvoltron Well that would get you threw the winter in comfort Better than 75% of even the other preppers. :doom360: |
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BilloutWest User ID: 77163024 United States 12/11/2018 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar + Powerwall would allow you to stay grid tied, but also act as backup once the grid goes. The same can't be said if you have solar and are grid tied. Quoting: Iamvoltron Another option is propane tank and natural gas powered generator. Very cheap and very reliable. Propane last almost indefinitely when stored in a tank versus say having a gasoline powered generator. Diesel lasts longer, but also can go bad if stored for longer than year. OK. We are solar and are grid tied. So a Tesla Powerwall would be compatible with our 26 panel 8.710 kW, (SolarEdgeInverter, SE7600H-US w/ P320 Optimizers) ? = = = = Thank you for any advice. We do not wish to compromise our warranties nor risk injury to utility workers. A normal grid tied solar system has a safety feature that automatically stops providing power to the lines in the event of a power outage. The idea being is you don't want the power from your solar going to the grid and potentially zapping a linesman trying to repair the system. With a powerwall, it automatically detects if the grid is operating and when it detects the grid is down it automatically isolates your house from the grid. You are then able to use the power coming from your solar and also charge the batteries if you are producing excess. Thank You. I'll be looking into one. |
Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spot on, Lonestar! Quoting: Sikhed We need a real publications and Federal government PSA's on this. Just like what we had in the 1960's with regards to nuclear war with the Soviets. I'm talking civil defense organizations, communications, food and fuel stockpiles..the whole 9 yards! You are so right! They call the threat "profound", then get with the information pipeline! Alert everybody, not just in esoteric publications! The people not warned to prepare will be the ones coming to us prepared to beg, borrow, steal our preps. Last Edited by Pooka on 12/11/2018 12:30 AM Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
MissCleo User ID: 76541118 United States 12/11/2018 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surviving without electricity is like camping. The problem will be all the hungry people migrating out of cities and destroying everything a mile within every highway in the country. AND the one dumb neighbor that screws up and lets in maurauders. Get those neighborhood agreements going. Set up neighborhood security, road blocks, protection, communication, uniforms. |
MissCleo User ID: 76541118 United States 12/11/2018 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spot on, Lonestar! Quoting: Sikhed We need a real publications and Federal government PSA's on this. Just like what we had in the 1960's with regards to nuclear war with the Soviets. I'm talking civil defense organizations, communications, food and fuel stockpiles..the whole 9 yards! You are so right! They call the threat "profound", then get with the information pipeline! Alert everybody, not just in esoteric publications! The people not warned to prepare will be the ones coming to us prepared to beg, borrow, steal our preps. [link to www.ready.gov (secure)] [link to www.ready.gov (secure)] Last Edited by Agent 99 on 12/11/2018 12:33 AM |
Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surviving without electricity is like camping. The problem will be all the hungry people migrating out of cities and destroying everything a mile within every highway in the country. AND the one dumb neighbor that screws up and lets in maurauders. Get those neighborhood agreements going. Set up neighborhood security, road blocks, protection, communication, uniforms. Miss Cleo, I agree with most of what you say. However, I want to caution that there ill people, disabled people, older people, sometimes all three in one person, who cannot prepare well for themselves and because of the above conditions have not been able to get with the neighbors. They have a whole bad scene of reason to worry. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
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Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not long ago doing the prepping they are suggesting would have flagged you for being a domestic terrorist. You think they could make up their minds who the terrorists are? Who keeps changing the damn script? I thought of that, too. Wasn't long ago at all. Report your neighbors if they are doing weird stuff like storing food. LOL Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
MissCleo User ID: 76541118 United States 12/11/2018 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surviving without electricity is like camping. The problem will be all the hungry people migrating out of cities and destroying everything a mile within every highway in the country. AND the one dumb neighbor that screws up and lets in maurauders. Get those neighborhood agreements going. Set up neighborhood security, road blocks, protection, communication, uniforms. Miss Cleo, I agree with most of what you say. However, I want to caution that there ill people, disabled people, older people, sometimes all three in one person, who cannot prepare well for themselves and because of the above conditions have not been able to get with the neighbors. They have a whole bad scene of reason to worry. that's ok. take care of those people who need special care. keeping out looters and troublemakers is the key. Also make an agreement whether or not to share supplies and how much. |
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Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sincerely doubt the viability of an EMP strike. I think they are overplaying the effectiveness of such an attack/technology. Quoting: DARTH SILIOUS Short of that I don't see any enemy state being able to take down the grid nationwide. Perhaps locally but not more than that. Either way... Get a generator and or solar panels. Even more likely...when the gov starts putting out stuff like this we are on the verge of a recession. Trying to scare people to buy stuff they really don’t need and will end up tossing a few months later. Hoping to prop up the economy a bit longer. oooh what smart thinking! I would not have thought that in a minute! Hope you are right and that's all it is, not telegraphing a move or an expectation. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Still User ID: 72220886 United States 12/11/2018 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surviving without electricity is like camping. The problem will be all the hungry people migrating out of cities and destroying everything a mile within every highway in the country. AND the one dumb neighbor that screws up and lets in maurauders. Get those neighborhood agreements going. Set up neighborhood security, road blocks, protection, communication, uniforms. |
Still User ID: 72220886 United States 12/11/2018 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are making these little AI drones with hand cranked motors, analog spring-powered mini UAV drones to survive an EMP... Quoting: Maxx Steel they'll send these by the millions through your ventilation systems and they will track you down with IR/heat seeking sensors within about 5 seconds or less.. release unknown bacteria/anthrax agent or just detonate c4.. the versions they will send will be flying and you won't even see them. these micromouse land-based contests are just demos, what they show the public Seems legit! |
Coming Soon User ID: 76672443 United States 12/11/2018 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Power could be out for 6 months but people should stock up for (at least) 14 days. Yep, that'll work out well. Covid Jab Experiment - I'm in the control group. The reason the left wants you disarmed is because they plan to do things to you that you would shoot them for. To a cat, "No" just means to try again later. Silver kills disease organisms and also cures banksteritis. |
Justwhistlewhileyouwork User ID: 70955524 United States 12/11/2018 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember, if there is a prolonged power outage, and you are downwind from a nuclear facility, most reactors only have a couple of weeks worth of fuel for their backup cooling generator pumps. Quoting: ol' scratch Know the prevailing winds and get out of the area where the most concentrated fallout from fuel pool and reactor melt downs. Just like with Fukushima. Im like 10 miles from one. Ive ways said that if something happened wed tame off. |
dawning light User ID: 73179195 United States 12/11/2018 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No shieeet , thousands of sub stations it only takes one drone to fk me up. Quoting: RollinSoLo That ain’t even the worse part the roads are what are vulnerable Take out the fancy bridges it in cities it takes years to rebuild. U can cripple a city by taking out its bridges. i had nightmares of bridges falling for years. I would plan escape routes before falling asleep and it helped. Maybe we need to look for other routes People will panick besides your car wont be working, Bicycles? I wouldn't want to be on the highway anyway And though this world, with devils filled, should threaten to undo us, We will not fear, for God hath willed His truth to triumph through us; The Prince of Darkness grim, we tremble not for him; His rage we can endure, for lo, his doom is sure, One little word shall fell him |
Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Power could be out for 6 months but people should stock up for (at least) 14 days. Yep, that'll work out well. Quoting: Coming Soon I, too, was snickering at their math and planning. Makes perfect sense! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Shadow Dance User ID: 59490123 United States 12/11/2018 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't believe that it will take six months - because "bunkers" are underground - because "they" can't afford for the grid to go down ... I'm prepped, but I don't think they will do it ... due to the inconvenience that it would cause THEM |
Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't believe that it will take six months - because "bunkers" are underground - because "they" can't afford for the grid to go down ... Quoting: Shadow Dance I'm prepped, but I don't think they will do it ... due to the inconvenience that it would cause THEM "Their" bunkers are permanently supplied with power, swimming pools, everything they need - theaters and all. Probably have teachers for the kids, and classrooms as well. They won't be in a rush to come up. Doesn't matter what's happening to us - we are the least of their worries. They have their comforts, their lives, their monies off-shore or otherwise secured - relax and enjoy. We can be prepared for two weeks, as advised, and then whatever happens happens - we cannot disturb their comfort. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Pooka User ID: 36721404 United States 12/11/2018 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just noticed this sentence from the OP: The report is the second in one month to warn of a “profound threat” to the electric grid from terrorism and naturally occurring events like a solar storm or flare. Second one, hmm? Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
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Mkjeep User ID: 73370805 United States 12/11/2018 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No shieeet , thousands of sub stations it only takes one drone to fk me up. Quoting: RollinSoLo That ain’t even the worse part the roads are what are vulnerable Take out the fancy bridges it in cities it takes years to rebuild. U can cripple a city by taking out its bridges. i had nightmares of bridges falling for years. I would plan escape routes before falling asleep and it helped. Maybe we need to look for other routes People will panick besides your car wont be working, Bicycles? I wouldn't want to be on the highway anyway Depends on how old your car is and how close to the emp blast . The older the vehicle, the higher chance it’ll still run. My oldest jeep fails , I have an old ass Kawasaki mule that gets prolly 50mpg. Can siphon gas out of the other 3 jeeps I have as needed. Yeah, it’ll eventually run out , but I can be mobile in the woods if need be. All else fails I have my black Cadillacs :) "Be like water my friend”- Bruce Lee |
Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 25754961 United States 12/11/2018 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude if Facebook goes down and people have to resort to giving an actual thumbs-up in public to signify liking something, everyone under 35 will shit themselves Quoting: #seriouscause And women will die of starvation without white meat chicken to eat. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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