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Trump: If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall.

 
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....People do not yet realize how much of the Wall, including really effective renovation, has already been built. If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!

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 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Good. But the courts will stop it. It will have to go to SC for a ruling.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


The courts are just an excuse Trump uses on gullible Trumptards.

Read the US Constitution. POTUS, SCOTUS and Congress are created equal. Only SCOTUS required by Constitution all other courts are inferior courts created by Congress and as such they are NOT equal to POTUS and have no authority over POTUS.

Trump accepts those courts because he wants to NOT because he has to. Look back thru history, many US Presidents have rightly ignored these inferior courts. Power corrupts, these little district judges get a life appointment and begin to believe they are in charge, Trump has Constitutional right to ignore them as his predecessors have,

The question is does Trump have the backbone to move forward against these illegitimate forces. To date the answer is NO.
 Quoting: benbigger


You don't have to teach ME about the co equal branches of government. Go teach that Cortez idiot.

Regardless, Trump believes in the rule of law (don't have a country without it) and that was pretty evident in his campaigning. So, I'm not surprised he follows their rulings, but, he does fight them...all the way to the SC.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


The ultimate law in the United Staes is the US Constitution which vest POTUS with both authority and responsibility to defend the borders of the United States. additional Trump can use federal law.

Section 212(f) of the INA is arguably the broadest and best known of these authorities. It provides, in relevant part, that
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Time for Trump to show some backbone and defend the american people.
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


You don't have to be a liberal but talk is cheap. 3 things I voted for Donald Trump. The wall being number 1, he could have done it when he had both houses. 2 repealing Obamacare, 3, a good economy to look forward to. Well the economy is roaring except the Federal reserve is raising rates to counter it. The mandate has been repealed, but there is no alternative especially if you have a pre-existing condition.
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Dude, how old are you? The rates we are at ARE NOTHING compared to what they used to be back in the 80's. Nothing. Home loans were 7% easily. CC rates 20% or more.
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Early 80's mortgages at over 15%. But you have to compare worldwide. Most of the rest of the world still has a zero interest rate policy. By having a higher rate than everyone else, it makes the dollar stronger (people want to hold dollars for the interest) and so it hurts our exports and balance of trade (US goods become relatively more expensive in foreign currency terms, and imports to the US are cheap in USD terms).
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My point was we are still a long way from HIGH interest rates. However, I do agree the Fed went one too many raises too much last year and they need to leave it alone for a while.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
 Quoting: redhed6971


The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


Already budgeted monies can easily be redirected under emergency status.
Ask the Obamunists about this. The money sent on pallets to Iran did not just pop up out of thin air.
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Yea, and the difference is, no body took Obama to court over it.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
 Quoting: redhed6971


The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


Already budgeted monies can easily be redirected under emergency status.
Ask the Obamunists about this. The money sent on pallets to Iran did not just pop up out of thin air.
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Yea, and the difference is, no body took Obama to court over it.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


Can you read?

This was just posted. Explains how Trump is NOT constrained by inferior courts (unless he wants to be).

Courts are just an excuse Trump uses on gullible Trumptards.

Read the US Constitution. POTUS, SCOTUS and Congress are created equal. Only SCOTUS required by Constitution all other courts are inferior courts created by Congress and as such they are NOT equal to POTUS and have no authority over POTUS.

Trump accepts those courts because he wants to NOT because he has to. Look back thru history, many US Presidents have rightly ignored these inferior courts. Power corrupts, these little district judges get a life appointment and begin to believe they are in charge, Trump has Constitutional right to ignore them as his predecessors have,

The question is does Trump have the backbone to move forward against these illegitimate forces. To date the answer is NO.
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The legislation for the wall was passed by Congress in 2006. 2006!

Since then, both parties have resisted funding it.

And yes, as a matter of National Security, the President can direct the military to build the wall -- just like other projects like the levees in New Orleans, for instance.

But of course, TPTB and their propaganda machine, aka the media, will fight Trump on everything he does.

By the way, the levees in New Orleans were slated to be improved by The Army Corps of Engineers until BushII moved the allotted funds to finance the war in Iraq. And without those funds, the Katrina disaster happened.
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....People do not yet realize how much of the Wall, including really effective renovation, has already been built. If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!

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 Quoting: LoneStarRising


If he can do it now he could have done it 2 years ago.
 Quoting: benbigger


No.

If you remember -- Bammy, and the dims, signed off on a 2 year budget on the way out. This done to tie Trumps hands on the wall building. A special appropriation? Not typically for something of this size. A special appropriation takes, literally, an act of Congress.

The 2019 Budget Year is Trumps first opportunity to get funding for the wall.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Sorry you are wrong.

President has immense Constitutional authority to use 1 million active military and $700 BILLION budget to defend the United States--that is his primary Constitutional duty. A few $ Billion for concrete and steel from military funds to provide construction materials to Army Combat Engineer wall construction is a drop in the bucket. DOD moves and reallocates $ Billions every day based on operations needs and changing threat assessments--which include an alarming number of potential terrorists from Bangladesh, Afghanistan, etc etc countries that are know harbors of anti American terrorists, who are crossing southern border into the United States..

These incursions of US southern border are well known (but classified) by US intelligence and obviously by Border Patrol on the ground. Trump could easily use national defense as justification to fund Army Combat Engineers building wall on border IF HE WANTED but, like Obama and Bush before him, Trump has opted to take a "see no evil" attitude because openly admitting these issues would upset the public who would force action and curtail the flow of mass immigration demanded by corporations (money donors) and globalists.
 Quoting: benbigger


Agreed for the most part. Welcome to politics. POTUS cannot do it all in 4 years but he is going to damn sure try anyway.

But why would he put his dreams of "making America great again" to an end yet. Politics is business as usual in the USA regardless arkanasides, pizza gates, stock market fixing or running the minions crazy with threats of war, death, public persecution.

He wants the votes to get 4 more and promises kept is the best way to get that in the USA. For all the bitching in the world the USA is still the greatest country ever. We all know that unless we are fucking stupid.

This is just business as usual in a fast changing world. Time is at warp speed now. Shit goes in and shit goes out.

The wall is being built and those soldiers down there right now are part of the budget....they are the wall. And we minions are right behind them protecting the fuckers we hate, the ones we love, and our land.

I am voting for that man until he proves me wrong and we let him go.
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I don't understand. If Congress has approved a military budget, what, in the law, says that Trump cannot move budget money in the military, from one project to another? After all, he is the Commander-in-Chief.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
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Still, Trump is Commander-in-Chief of the military. They work for him.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
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You don't have to be a liberal but talk is cheap. 3 things I voted for Donald Trump. The wall being number 1, he could have done it when he had both houses. 2 repealing Obamacare, 3, a good economy to look forward to. Well the economy is roaring except the Federal reserve is raising rates to counter it. The mandate has been repealed, but there is no alternative especially if you have a pre-existing condition.
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Don't worry, The Fed is also on his list.
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What is at about twitter that brings out my evil side. I get so angry reading stupid dimms comments, I just can't help myself. ohno
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The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


Already budgeted monies can easily be redirected under emergency status.
Ask the Obamunists about this. The money sent on pallets to Iran did not just pop up out of thin air.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Yea, and the difference is, no body took Obama to court over it.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


Can you read?

This was just posted. Explains how Trump is NOT constrained by inferior courts (unless he wants to be).

Courts are just an excuse Trump uses on gullible Trumptards.

Read the US Constitution. POTUS, SCOTUS and Congress are created equal. Only SCOTUS required by Constitution all other courts are inferior courts created by Congress and as such they are NOT equal to POTUS and have no authority over POTUS.

Trump accepts those courts because he wants to NOT because he has to. Look back thru history, many US Presidents have rightly ignored these inferior courts. Power corrupts, these little district judges get a life appointment and begin to believe they are in charge, Trump has Constitutional right to ignore them as his predecessors have,

The question is does Trump have the backbone to move forward against these illegitimate forces. To date the answer is NO.
 Quoting: benbigger


SCOTUS gives opinions not laws.
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Cant do it lol. God IDK how trump does it but he manages to say stupider shit every damn day.

Pretty soon only person he will be saying that crap to is Bubba:-)
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You don't understand how Trump works. For instance, by saying if the dems don't give him the votes to build the wall (in essence, give him the money), he is giving the dems a black eye in front of God and everyone.

Trump does not say something just to say it. There's always a reason behind it. That "black eye" will turn the Senate against the dems and they will get nothing passed during their tenure.

Ha! Turnabout is fair play, dontcha think?
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....People do not yet realize how much of the Wall, including really effective renovation, has already been built. If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


That is a huge waste of taxpayer money. It costs money to deploy our military anywhere besides a permanent base. After 30 days, most married troops begin to receive separation pay. On top of fuel consumption and the like. We will end up paying 10x using military versus the lowest bidder.
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Sorry you are wrong.

President has immense Constitutional authority to use 1 million active military and $700 BILLION budget to defend the United States--that is his primary Constitutional duty. A few $ Billion for concrete and steel from military funds to provide construction materials to Army Combat Engineer wall construction is a drop in the bucket. DOD moves and reallocates $ Billions every day based on operations needs and changing threat assessments--which include an alarming number of potential terrorists from Bangladesh, Afghanistan, etc etc countries that are know harbors of anti American terrorists, who are crossing southern border into the United States..

These incursions of US southern border are well known (but classified) by US intelligence and obviously by Border Patrol on the ground. Trump could easily use national defense as justification to fund Army Combat Engineers building wall on border IF HE WANTED but, like Obama and Bush before him, Trump has opted to take a "see no evil" attitude because openly admitting these issues would upset the public who would force action and curtail the flow of mass immigration demanded by corporations (money donors) and globalists.
 Quoting: benbigger


You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
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I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
 Quoting: benbigger

And let me add. POTUS can declare a national emergency at the border and move any amount of the 1 million active military and use any amount of the $700 Billion DoD budget to meet that emergency.

To say POTUS is always constrained by approval from Congress or lines in a DoD budget authorization is to believe if Russia or China attacked the United States POTUS could not respond without approval from Congress? You must be insane.

And if 500K illegals per year flooding the southern border to include known criminals and terrorists who are literally robbing, raping, murdering, assaulting american citizens do not constitute an emergency, I do not know what an emergency is. That the invaders come from Mexico rather than Russia does make the harm to american citizen any more acceptable.
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I remember him campaigning on that too and the media and other's going batshit crazy that he said it. Perhaps this was his angle all along. Let Congress have a chance to do what's right first, and when they don't, he does it his way.

I know one thing. If he doesn't do it, he will have a hard time winning re-election in 2020, so I expect to see either Congress move on this or him. The media will go nuts, the Dems will obstruct (or attempt to) in court and it will end up being a big campaign issue for 2020 whether they want it to or not.
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Army Corp. of Engineers can do some AMAZING things! Git R Dun!

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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
 Quoting: redhed6971


Army Corps of Engineers build things all the time in country.

Would not be considered a deployment, but an infrastructure project.

That said -- our military needs to be used to secure OUR borders, as opposed to those of assholes who hate us.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Army Corp of Engineers are designers, not builders, they build via huge contracts which means Trump would need to get them money i.e. $25 Billion.

A southern border wall is actually very simple construction, nothing more than 30 X 30 prefab panels set in a 5 foot deep ditch alongside an improved gravel access road, all construction easily done by Army Combat Engineers and Navy Seabee Construction Battalions who are already on the payroll so no contractor cost just minimal cost for basic concrete and steel.

If Trump can order this done now (he can) then why didn't he order this done 2 years ago?
 Quoting: benbigger


Because 2 years ago the dems wouldn't be hanging themselves like they are today.

Trump is no dummy. He's giving dems the rope to hang themselves with, now when it really counts. Which means, they will not control the House next month like they think they will. They will not be able to get anything passed in the Senate and their refusal to give Trump the money for the wall will show voters how anti-America they really are.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
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And I just watched a public thing with Schumer and Nancy and they fucked it up huge in trying to fuck up Trump... Such utter stupidity on their part.. besides the dark service to destroy this country on purpose. Dark agents do not think well... they tossed out their god given minds. They are not creative... cheap followers.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


You don't have to be a liberal but talk is cheap. 3 things I voted for Donald Trump. The wall being number 1, he could have done it when he had both houses. 2 repealing Obamacare, 3, a good economy to look forward to. Well the economy is roaring except the Federal reserve is raising rates to counter it. The mandate has been repealed, but there is no alternative especially if you have a pre-existing condition.
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He did have both houses, BUT they wouldn’t agree to funding it. It’s not a fault on President Trump. It’s our weak Rinos.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
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Army Corps of Engineers build things all the time in country.

Would not be considered a deployment, but an infrastructure project.

That said -- our military needs to be used to secure OUR borders, as opposed to those of assholes who hate us.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Well stated, direct and to the point.
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Good. But the courts will stop it. It will have to go to SC for a ruling.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


The courts are just an excuse Trump uses on gullible Trumptards.

Read the US Constitution. POTUS, SCOTUS and Congress are created equal. Only SCOTUS required by Constitution all other courts are inferior courts created by Congress and as such they are NOT equal to POTUS and have no authority over POTUS.

Trump accepts those courts because he wants to NOT because he has to. Look back thru history, many US Presidents have rightly ignored these inferior courts. Power corrupts, these little district judges get a life appointment and begin to believe they are in charge, Trump has Constitutional right to ignore them as his predecessors have,

The question is does Trump have the backbone to move forward against these illegitimate forces. To date the answer is NO.
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You don't have to teach ME about the co equal branches of government. Go teach that Cortez idiot.

Regardless, Trump believes in the rule of law (don't have a country without it) and that was pretty evident in his campaigning. So, I'm not surprised he follows their rulings, but, he does fight them...all the way to the SC.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


The ultimate law in the United Staes is the US Constitution which vest POTUS with both authority and responsibility to defend the borders of the United States. additional Trump can use federal law.

Section 212(f) of the INA is arguably the broadest and best known of these authorities. It provides, in relevant part, that
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Time for Trump to show some backbone and defend the american people.
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And the USSC is the ULTIMATE authority on the US Constitution whether we like it or not.
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Cant do it lol. God IDK how trump does it but he manages to say stupider shit every damn day.

Pretty soon only person he will be saying that crap to is Bubba:-)
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....People do not yet realize how much of the Wall, including really effective renovation, has already been built. If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!

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 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Good. But the courts will stop it. It will have to go to SC for a ruling.
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The Obama courts can try. Trump is the Commander-in-Chief of the military. The military his bidding. The military does not work for the Congress or the courts. SCOTUS would throw that out in a hot minute because the wall is a national security necessity.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
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The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
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SECTION 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

If congress leaves session without addressing the issue, Trump has a constitutional obligation to defend the us from invasion, pretty straight forward.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
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The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
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National Security.
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The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
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Already budgeted monies can easily be redirected under emergency status.
Ask the Obamunists about this. The money sent on pallets to Iran did not just pop up out of thin air.
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Yea, and the difference is, no body took Obama to court over it.
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Can you read?

This was just posted. Explains how Trump is NOT constrained by inferior courts (unless he wants to be).

Courts are just an excuse Trump uses on gullible Trumptards.

Read the US Constitution. POTUS, SCOTUS and Congress are created equal. Only SCOTUS required by Constitution all other courts are inferior courts created by Congress and as such they are NOT equal to POTUS and have no authority over POTUS.

Trump accepts those courts because he wants to NOT because he has to. Look back thru history, many US Presidents have rightly ignored these inferior courts. Power corrupts, these little district judges get a life appointment and begin to believe they are in charge, Trump has Constitutional right to ignore them as his predecessors have,

The question is does Trump have the backbone to move forward against these illegitimate forces. To date the answer is NO.
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Sure he can. It will just give the Dems another reason to use the media against him and advance their "impeachment" cause, whether justified or NOT.
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Remember the $716B he got for the military in Omnibus bill that nobody read but freaked out about?

Told ya ;)
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And I'm sure he has the military intelligence that shows ISIS is using southern border to infiltrate....

Argue that one Demtards!
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Ten Terrorists are captured a day crossing the border per Representive Steve Scalise.

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]

I guess to get funding to secure the border the democrats would would rather wait for another major terrorist attack. We have a huge power station 10 miles from our house which is simply protected by a chain link fence. No guards. No cameras that I can see. No barriers. Take out several of those and I bet not having power in zero degree whether will wake up a few people. It amazes me nothing has been done to harden these stations, IMO.

I just read last night the DHS announcement on preparing for an attack on the grid and to plan on a minimum outage of 14 days to as long as 6 months.

Thank goodness we live in the country and will have water, wood to burn, and food supplies. Pitty, the people stuck in the cities if and when the SHTF.

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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
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You don't have to be a liberal but talk is cheap. 3 things I voted for Donald Trump. The wall being number 1, he could have done it when he had both houses. 2 repealing Obamacare, 3, a good economy to look forward to. Well the economy is roaring except the Federal reserve is raising rates to counter it. The mandate has been repealed, but there is no alternative especially if you have a pre-existing condition.
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Potus can only do what is legal. He tried desperately to repeal. Had it on the table for a significant amount of time. McCain killed it as well as other rinos that ran on platforms of repealing O-care. Same goes with the wall. We had a worthless speaker. These people see what the American people wanted and voted for but the power of the lobby money was just too big. Trump isnt done. These things will get done. The individual mandate repeal basically killed Obama care anyway
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Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone.
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What is at about twitter that brings out my evil side. I get so angry reading stupid dimms comments, I just can't help myself. ohno
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A bunch of Dem bots on that site for sure.
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No.

If you remember -- Bammy, and the dims, signed off on a 2 year budget on the way out. This done to tie Trumps hands on the wall building. A special appropriation? Not typically for something of this size. A special appropriation takes, literally, an act of Congress.

The 2019 Budget Year is Trumps first opportunity to get funding for the wall.
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Sorry you are wrong.

President has immense Constitutional authority to use 1 million active military and $700 BILLION budget to defend the United States--that is his primary Constitutional duty. A few $ Billion for concrete and steel from military funds to provide construction materials to Army Combat Engineer wall construction is a drop in the bucket. DOD moves and reallocates $ Billions every day based on operations needs and changing threat assessments--which include an alarming number of potential terrorists from Bangladesh, Afghanistan, etc etc countries that are know harbors of anti American terrorists, who are crossing southern border into the United States..

These incursions of US southern border are well known (but classified) by US intelligence and obviously by Border Patrol on the ground. Trump could easily use national defense as justification to fund Army Combat Engineers building wall on border IF HE WANTED but, like Obama and Bush before him, Trump has opted to take a "see no evil" attitude because openly admitting these issues would upset the public who would force action and curtail the flow of mass immigration demanded by corporations (money donors) and globalists.
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You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
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I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
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That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.

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