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Trump: If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall.

 
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


And I just watched a public thing with Schumer and Nancy and they fucked it up huge in trying to fuck up Trump... Such utter stupidity on their part.. besides the dark service to destroy this country on purpose. Dark agents do not think well... they tossed out their god given minds. They are not creative... cheap followers.
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Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
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....People do not yet realize how much of the Wall, including really effective renovation, has already been built. If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Good. But the courts will stop it. It will have to go to SC for a ruling.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


The Obama courts can try. Trump is the Commander-in-Chief of the military. The military his bidding. The military does not work for the Congress or the courts. SCOTUS would throw that out in a hot minute because the wall is a national security necessity.
 Quoting: Catnip


I know that and sincerely hope we don't have some turncoats like Roberts that will say otherwise.

However, you won't be able to calm the Dem natives down unless the SC tells them they are wrong. That's why I think it will be challenged and it will have to be ruled on by SC or until it gets to a sane court.
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does this mean he's pulling money from the Defense budget and putting it into the "Wall" bucket..?
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They got Trump to admit he doesn’t have the votes in the Senate for the wall and he admitted it will be his pleasure to shut down the govt.
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Posse Comitatus wouldn't apply here. He should do it. Libtards will have a fit but f*ck them.
 Quoting: redhed6971


The talking heads on Fox are already saying all spending is legislative and the military was not allotted funds to build the wall. So, that is the reason that will be used in the courts.
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SECTION 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

If congress leaves session without addressing the issue, Trump has a constitutional obligation to defend the us from invasion, pretty straight forward.
 Quoting: Spaginal


Umm...the legislature is just involved in "domestic violence" is how I read it.
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Remember the $716B he got for the military in Omnibus bill that nobody read but freaked out about?

Told ya ;)
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And I'm sure he has the military intelligence that shows ISIS is using southern border to infiltrate....

Argue that one Demtards!
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi


DHS stated in a you-tube video two days ago that 10 terrorists are crossing the border every day.

I guess to convince the democrats the wall needs to be funded we need another major terrorist attack.

I just read last night the DHS announcement on preparing for an attack on the grid and to plan on a minimum outage of 14 days to as long as 6 months. If anything happens, the democraps will be too blame.

Thank goodness we live in the country and will have water, wood to burn, and food supplies. Pitty, the people stuck in the cities if and when the SHTF.
 Quoting: Zark A


14 days is freaking hard. Been there, done that. If fuel is'n't available, damn near impossible. Six months of large scale areas is DOOM.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
 Quoting: DeerCrafts


He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


And I just watched a public thing with Schumer and Nancy and they fucked it up huge in trying to fuck up Trump... Such utter stupidity on their part.. besides the dark service to destroy this country on purpose. Dark agents do not think well... they tossed out their god given minds. They are not creative... cheap followers.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


explain for us who didn't see it
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Sorry you are wrong.

President has immense Constitutional authority to use 1 million active military and $700 BILLION budget to defend the United States--that is his primary Constitutional duty. A few $ Billion for concrete and steel from military funds to provide construction materials to Army Combat Engineer wall construction is a drop in the bucket. DOD moves and reallocates $ Billions every day based on operations needs and changing threat assessments--which include an alarming number of potential terrorists from Bangladesh, Afghanistan, etc etc countries that are know harbors of anti American terrorists, who are crossing southern border into the United States..

These incursions of US southern border are well known (but classified) by US intelligence and obviously by Border Patrol on the ground. Trump could easily use national defense as justification to fund Army Combat Engineers building wall on border IF HE WANTED but, like Obama and Bush before him, Trump has opted to take a "see no evil" attitude because openly admitting these issues would upset the public who would force action and curtail the flow of mass immigration demanded by corporations (money donors) and globalists.
 Quoting: benbigger


You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
 Quoting: benbigger


That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


rockon

I noticed that. Glad you called him out.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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and the democrats will pay for it.



...oh wait:/
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They got Trump to admit he doesn’t have the votes in the Senate for the wall and he admitted it will be his pleasure to shut down the govt.
 Quoting: Sasssssssssy


It takes 60 votes to move bill to floor. Been that way forever and it's what held things up the last two years. McConnel can ditch the rule, but he won't. Big mistake I think because the Dems wouldn't hesitate to ditch it if they wanted something.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
 Quoting: DeerCrafts


He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

At some point, Trump just needs to take the gloves off and do this. He is a streetfighter at heart.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Lol he dodged Vietnam about 5 times, didn't he? Streetfighter my arse. Spoilt rich kid yes.
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Cant do it lol. God IDK how trump does it but he manages to say stupider shit every damn day.

Pretty soon only person he will be saying that crap to is Bubba:-)
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I know Trump says stupid shit but it is funny to hear him say the stupid shit.

Just when you think Trump couldn't say anything stupider he opens his mouth again and proves you wrong.
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Talk is cheap trump fuck
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Well said!
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He's moving forward. Something you libtards know nothing about.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


And I just watched a public thing with Schumer and Nancy and they fucked it up huge in trying to fuck up Trump... Such utter stupidity on their part.. besides the dark service to destroy this country on purpose. Dark agents do not think well... they tossed out their god given minds. They are not creative... cheap followers.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


explain for us who didn't see it
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


Start at 6:10 -- fireworks start at about 11:20



Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 12/11/2018 01:29 PM
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

INTJ:
Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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The border wall is being built come hell or high water. The one thing he promised he would do as President is stop the flood of illegal immigration and more importantly, destroy the international child sex trafficking ring. To starve the vampires you have to cut off their andrenochrome supply chain. This is the real reason the swamp wants him out of the oval office - they have spent decades establishing their pizza party network, without it they will have to go back to kidnapping American children, something that is more difficult in this day and age.



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Look around, is this the end that you have foreseen?
The pain, the misery in us all
What was it that you knew?
Will we one day learn it too?
And together build another way, to the morning
Or will it ever come again?
You've poisoned all our hopes
We have nothing now, and what of the children?
What has this done to them?
Damn you for the pain that they must feel...
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You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
 Quoting: benbigger


That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


rockon

I noticed that. Glad you called him out.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi

Are you clowns or just idiots?

I had as in past tense security clearances. HAD. Not currently active. You guys are idiotic saying a person can not state they HAD security clearances. For example, people go on TV talk shows because they were in the CIA which confirms they HAD security clearances. Don be idiots.

And neither of you little snowflakes have ever guarded a border. You little office twinkles know nothing about physically guarding a national border.

Go home, read your Cosmo magazine and leave serious thinking to others more capable.
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I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
 Quoting: benbigger


That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


rockon

I noticed that. Glad you called him out.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi

Are you clowns or just idiots?

I had as in past tense security clearances. HAD. Not currently active. You guys are idiotic saying a person can not state they HAD security clearances. For example, people go on TV talk shows because they were in the CIA which confirms they HAD security clearances. Don be idiots.

And neither of you little snowflakes have ever guarded a border. You little office twinkles know nothing about physically guarding a national border.

Go home, read your Cosmo magazine and leave serious thinking to others more capable.
 Quoting: benbigger


Matters not. Even if you HAD (past tense) those clearances you claim to have had, that you ever held them is classified info.

Be smart, and know when to shut up. That you do not know when to shut up, tells me you never held any clearances.

You physically guarded the border? Okay, you were a ground pounder, with fantasies about being something more. Now, I see clearly your motivations.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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And I just watched a public thing with Schumer and Nancy and they fucked it up huge in trying to fuck up Trump... Such utter stupidity on their part.. besides the dark service to destroy this country on purpose. Dark agents do not think well... they tossed out their god given minds. They are not creative... cheap followers.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


explain for us who didn't see it
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


Start at 6:10 -- fireworks start at about 11:20


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thanks, watching now
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Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


explain for us who didn't see it
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


Start at 6:10 -- fireworks start at about 11:20


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thanks, watching now
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


Doc now has a thread on the meeting:

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Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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They got Trump to admit he doesn’t have the votes in the Senate for the wall and he admitted it will be his pleasure to shut down the govt.
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Would be interesting if President Trump shut the Government down for 2 years. Imagine the House ruled by Dems and they couldn't do their mischief because it was shut down...
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I just couldnt stand watching the smug self aggrandizing smirk on Schumers face. We need term limits really bad!! Sure we'll lose a few good ones but they are outnumbered 500 to one.
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Just watched that too. POTUS led them straight into revealing what they truly are, straight from their own mouths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


explain for us who didn't see it
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


Start at 6:10 -- fireworks start at about 11:20


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thanks, watching now
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gross. i can barely make it through this. who the fuck likes these smarmy ass democrats.
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They got Trump to admit he doesn’t have the votes in the Senate for the wall and he admitted it will be his pleasure to shut down the govt.
 Quoting: Sasssssssssy


Would be interesting if President Trump shut the Government down for 2 years. Imagine the House ruled by Dems and they couldn't do their mischief because it was shut down...
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SSA payments, Military pensions, medicals coop insurance, FAA (air travel), DOT (road upkeep), DoD, Dept of Interior (parks, dams, reservoirs), Amtrak...the Fed has it's tentacles in everything anymore...it won't happen...a week would have the country at a standstill. Seems the last ones always has "exceptions"...FAA, military, essential stuff...
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Fuckin BOOM !!! Bitch slapped by Trumpster in front of everyone. Schumer- suck it Pelosi- suck it. They fuckin hate him and you can tell.
He don’t play their game and gives them a big fuck you right in front of everybody. Love it. Thanks for posting the link!!

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Sorry you are wrong.

President has immense Constitutional authority to use 1 million active military and $700 BILLION budget to defend the United States--that is his primary Constitutional duty. A few $ Billion for concrete and steel from military funds to provide construction materials to Army Combat Engineer wall construction is a drop in the bucket. DOD moves and reallocates $ Billions every day based on operations needs and changing threat assessments--which include an alarming number of potential terrorists from Bangladesh, Afghanistan, etc etc countries that are know harbors of anti American terrorists, who are crossing southern border into the United States..

These incursions of US southern border are well known (but classified) by US intelligence and obviously by Border Patrol on the ground. Trump could easily use national defense as justification to fund Army Combat Engineers building wall on border IF HE WANTED but, like Obama and Bush before him, Trump has opted to take a "see no evil" attitude because openly admitting these issues would upset the public who would force action and curtail the flow of mass immigration demanded by corporations (money donors) and globalists.
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You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
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I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
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That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
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I had an active Secret security clearance until May of this year. Security clearances are a dime a dozen and dependent upon your level of confidentiality associated with the position you held. Disclosing a clearance is not, of itself, a violation of anything really. Just boastful comments that some people thinks means something.
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does this mean he's pulling money from the Defense budget and putting it into the "Wall" bucket..?
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That is literally defense. Unlike most of that budget that defends "US interests" but not the homeland.
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You need to learn more about the federal Appropriations process and laws.
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I spent some years as a combat arms officer supporting border missions against the old soviet block in europe and later against north korea, spent months on us southern border ( I know border security) then a graduate school fellowship in a STEM field at the most expensive university in the usa to include graduate coursework in federal acquisition regulations and contracting to prepare me for multiple years in the pentagon with every known security clearance, managed, developed and or worked on 100s million dollar procurement contracts, believe I am well founded in federal budgeting and appropriations.

That's my experience. What is yours?
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That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
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I had an active Secret security clearance until May of this year. Security clearances are a dime a dozen and dependent upon your level of confidentiality associated with the position you held. Disclosing a clearance is not, of itself, a violation of anything really. Just boastful comments that some people thinks means something.
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Depending on the clearance level, some are.

If you only held a secret, you likely are not even aware of the levels above TS. I am only aware of a couple but know there are more, what they are, I do not know, and do not want to know.
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That's nice.

I used to be responsible for a major agency's submission to the President's Budget, and the resulting machinations to get that budget passed. Have also testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

I also have more degrees than a thermometer, and have zero need to outline my comprehensive list of quals. Just not that insecure.

One more thing -- if you truly held those security clearances, you would not be spouting such here. That you held the clearances you claim to have held, is classified information, in, and of, itself. Every known clearance? You are lying, or need to step away from the keyboard, right

One more thing -- 100s of millions in procurements is NOTHING. Pennies in a relative sense. This tells me you were only a low level paper pusher.
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rockon

I noticed that. Glad you called him out.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi

Are you clowns or just idiots?

I had as in past tense security clearances. HAD. Not currently active. You guys are idiotic saying a person can not state they HAD security clearances. For example, people go on TV talk shows because they were in the CIA which confirms they HAD security clearances. Don be idiots.

And neither of you little snowflakes have ever guarded a border. You little office twinkles know nothing about physically guarding a national border.

Go home, read your Cosmo magazine and leave serious thinking to others more capable.
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Matters not. Even if you HAD (past tense) those clearances you claim to have had, that you ever held them is classified info.

Be smart, and know when to shut up. That you do not know when to shut up, tells me you never held any clearances.

You physically guarded the border? Okay, you were a ground pounder, with fantasies about being something more. Now, I see clearly your motivations.
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No, holding clearances is not generally classified, not in my case for example. I cannot say for sure that there's no instance where it's classified, but if there was, I never had a need-to-know that information. I've never heard of it.

A little hyperbole (every clearance known to man) is not out of place and yours (more degrees than a thermometer) was fine too. benbigger talks like military procurement guys I've been around.
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rockon

I noticed that. Glad you called him out.
 Quoting: Nonfeminazi

Are you clowns or just idiots?

I had as in past tense security clearances. HAD. Not currently active. You guys are idiotic saying a person can not state they HAD security clearances. For example, people go on TV talk shows because they were in the CIA which confirms they HAD security clearances. Don be idiots.

And neither of you little snowflakes have ever guarded a border. You little office twinkles know nothing about physically guarding a national border.

Go home, read your Cosmo magazine and leave serious thinking to others more capable.
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Matters not. Even if you HAD (past tense) those clearances you claim to have had, that you ever held them is classified info.

Be smart, and know when to shut up. That you do not know when to shut up, tells me you never held any clearances.

You physically guarded the border? Okay, you were a ground pounder, with fantasies about being something more. Now, I see clearly your motivations.
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No, holding clearances is not generally classified, not in my case for example. I cannot say for sure that there's no instance where it's classified, but if there was, I never had a need-to-know that information. I've never heard of it.

A little hyperbole (every clearance known to man) is not out of place and yours (more degrees than a thermometer) was fine too. benbigger talks like military procurement guys I've been around.
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You held a secret clearance -- it is not a problem disclosing a secret clearance, but I would not go around telling just anyone.

He also talks like a paper pusher who wants people to think he was an operational badass, and that if he missed a day of work, the Pentagon would cease to function.

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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