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Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)

 
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TAOM,

What do you think Tesla meant when he said,

"If you only knew the magnificence of 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe"?
 Quoting: The Becomingest 75380804

1, 2, 3 = 5

The key to the universe is how the universe comes about (5), which is what I call the 'god equation' of perspective.

1 = structure
2 = potential
3 = interaction
5 = reality (perspective)
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We need to come up with methods as to how we could start moving in a different direction. We do love some of the chaos but that is because that is all we think we have. Our minds need to open up to new ways and the old ways would be forgotten soon enough.
 Quoting: Nahoti

But we all ready know those new ways, don't we?

Those are actually the old ways that we have replaced with the 'new' ways.

Could we really move in a different direction without some destruction? It's interesting to consider.
 Quoting: Taom

Destruction does not all ways have a negative side. We should be pretty eager for some change by now (I know I am!) and if there needs to be some destruction along the way, then so be it. Everything lies in the interpretation as you always say.
 Quoting: Nahoti

We tend to think of that because we do not understand it, I think. Destruction seems to be neutral.

We destroy at every moment without realizing it. We need to, otherwise we die.

The trick is helping the forest to burn itself.
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I'm curious too. What would be an example of one of our ways that they have accepted?
 Quoting: Nahoti

When we protest, they change course.

Just trying to see what they think of as evil and how it compares to what we think of as evil.
 Quoting: Nahoti

For example: [link to imgur.com (secure)]

When we accept something, we don't have to agree with it.
 Quoting: Nahoti

There are some things we know we are better off accepting than not, because the alternative is worse.

For example, we accept that people can buy alcohol legally, under certain conditions. The alternative (prohibiting alcohol) is worse. There are many 'evils' that we'd be better off accepting and then managing.

Their ways could not be mine: the distortion, deception, greed, inversion etc, are so not my style but they can be accepted by me as being their way.
 Quoting: Nahoti

Indeed. I've never smoked anything, for example, but I would not want to take away the ability for others to slowly kill themselves and others with toxic smoke if they so choose.

If someone doesn't like smoke then they need to make sure they are doing something about it, not just accepting it as part of 'the way things are'. Personally, I lead a normal life and have not seen anyone smoke or smelled smoke in many months.

Then maybe I subsequently make my way to Upper Earth where we all live happily ever after in relative but extremely peaceful boredom lol peace
 Quoting: Nahoti

haha.. that's the ticket!

There will be many who choose 'Satan' under those circumstances.

There are billions who all ready have.
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OP you say that the AOC are out to deceive us because the more deception that they can get away with the more 'supernatural powers' they receive. What are these 'supernatural powers'? Who grants them? And who originally taught the first AOCs?

It seems to me that there has to be some kind of 'master plan' and I doubt that it was conceived by 'ordinary' people using trial and error, so who (if I'm correct) wrote it and why?
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Yes. Re-membering who and what we really are.

 Quoting: Taom


Do you know who and what you really are? Are you complete with the process?
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Maybe they searched the entire population on both planets for the craziest person they could find and could only find me lol

But, yes, a crazy and counter-intuitive solution might be needed for the never-ending battle between 'good' and 'evil'
 Quoting: Taom


LOL

We should be seeking balance and not battles, right? Battling feels like wasted energy.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Indeed.

It is not really them that is destroying us, though. It is them making us believe that we should destroy ourselves.

That might be the best method of destruction, I think.
 Quoting: Taom


It certainly appears like the most efficient way.
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I think for 'free will' you can choose from among your entire perspective. Yet, you will experience that which is most relative.

Something you 'want' could require a lot of interactions (energy) to experience it, so there's that limitation.

By, 'Let each be themselves, and we exercise our 'free will' to choose the path we want.' I mean, for example:

Now
Thing #1 pretends it is 'good' and beneficial when it is actually harmful
Thing #2 might be beneficial but is not promoted and no one knows about it

Then
Thing #1 comes out as evil and illustrates its degeneracy in a more open way. It knows it can be harmful but, like alcohol, people still choose it for their own reasons.
Thing #2 is more known because thing #1 no longer needs to deceive

Then it is up to each person to choose their own path, rather than being tricked into making a choice. People will need to learn how they can be deceived, and learn the ways in which the agents of chaos communicate their deception.

Each 'side' gets more devout followers. The Chaos side works to attract more people, while the Order side has less people but stronger relationships.
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Thats all fine and dandyyeahsure

But, at the root of it all, Perspective was not free will. At the root of this life, your body, was not your choice. The “blessings” and “diseases” that came with your body were not at your will.

So your telling me I have a choice.
Choose your own path in a world where deception rules and where you had no choice into coming into this world.hmm

And could you explain this a bit:

We can't choose what we don't have.
 Quoting: Kore


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More entertainment!

Vincent van Gogh wanted to be John (Jack), a reaper, three years before 'Jack the Ripper' struck London.

[link to www.qmetaphysics.com]

Don't take it too seriously, though :)
 Quoting: Taom


That’s kind of hard for a dutchman like me, who is just now learning to paint! :)
Very compelling though. I am starting to mistrust anything that is valued ridiculous amounts of money nowadays, like Vincent’s or Rembrandt’s paintings.

Reading now. The phrase “hanneke maaier” makes no sense at all in current Dutch. “Hanneke” is a female first name, so it sounds just like for example “Annie mower” would sound in English. I will investigate further.

Found it:
“The word hannekemaaier comes from the name Johannes, frequently shortened to Hannes, and points to the first day the mowers were employed, on Sint Johannesdag (24 june).”

I never heard of that word until now.
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There is no need to change anything, or nourish anything. It's our choice, and life goes on no matter what choices we make..
 Quoting: Taom


Reality doesn’t stop. No matter what inputs we are giving.

That’s what I have always appreciated about your threads, the instruction on how to make the reality you desire more relevant to your experience. Being a Creator of reality and not just a Player. Of course, we can choose to do nothing.
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...


Meaning our resistance is exactly what allows it to grow?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes. Think of it like fear. As humans, we 'fear evil' but continue to choose evil.

The fear keeps us focused on it, bringing it more into our perspective. It's not magic, of course. When we focus on something we are more likely to interpret future things in the same way.

"When you've got a hammer, everything becomes a nail"

We don't realize that, for example, if we were Mark Zuckerberg and had his experiences we would make the same choices that he had made. We'd have the same website and service, and would be 'violating' users in the same way and would appear just as robotic.

We're trying to see everything as though everything has our perspective, not realizing that everything is in our perspective.

We see 'bad' things but fail to understand that they're not actually bad (or good), but are different parts of our own perspective. Things are nothing-in-particular until we interpret them.
 Quoting: Taom


I think this is hard for me. I definitely look out sometimes and see 'bad' things. 'Bad' things have happened to people I love. This seems like the hardest step. What do you suggest?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Has anything ever happened that you thought was 'bad' at the time that you saw had 'good' results or effects later?
 Quoting: Taom


Of course.

Sometimes it takes time though to see the ‘good’.
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It might be a hard pill to swallow but much of the 'love and light' material of the 80's and 90's was a psyop from the agents of chaos.

Satan is the 'lord of light' and all that.
 Quoting: Taom


What about pre 80s 90s

"God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness." -- Is that AOC scripture?
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"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

Why create a world and let the ruler be a master of deception? King of the dark artiest? Why is Lucifer 'gifted?' this dominion?
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Creators / Developers have a strong influence on characteristics and free will of their creation..

Is this perspective a creation?

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[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

Quadriga CX founder dies suddenly? Really? Sounds like a signal to me, with a name like that.
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OP you say that the AOC are out to deceive us because the more deception that they can get away with the more 'supernatural powers' they receive.

What are these 'supernatural powers'? Who grants them? And who originally taught the first AOCs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72391280

"They believe that if they can get you to believe in an inverted reality, they will gain supernatural powers."

Their belief, but not reality.

It seems to me that there has to be some kind of 'master plan' and I doubt that it was conceived by 'ordinary' people using trial and error, so who (if I'm correct) wrote it and why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72391280

They were just rejected members of society that developed their own way of thinking. Over time, they just came to believe that they are somehow special and not like others. The way their society is structured, they have an inherent hate for anything that reminds them of Christian values. Add in mate selection and a few hundred generations and you have a unique kind of psychopathic trait.
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Yes. Re-membering who and what we really are.

 Quoting: Taom


Do you know who and what you really are? Are you complete with the process?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Becoming is the fun part. Being is the boring part to be avoided at all costs.

No, I have no idea who and what I really am. It's more about figuring it out that actually knowing, I think. And I think I'm far from complete with the process (not that I would want to be).
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Maybe they searched the entire population on both planets for the craziest person they could find and could only find me lol

But, yes, a crazy and counter-intuitive solution might be needed for the never-ending battle between 'good' and 'evil'
 Quoting: Taom


LOL

We should be seeking balance and not battles, right? Battling feels like wasted energy.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Indeed.

It is not really them that is destroying us, though. It is them making us believe that we should destroy ourselves.

That might be the best method of destruction, I think.
 Quoting: Taom


It certainly appears like the most efficient way.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Perhaps if being honest is easier for them than being deceptive, they'd destroy some of their own ways, too. And there'd be less need to destroy ours.

Really, being deceptive must be so exhausting for them. I'm sure many of them want their own freedom, but can't imagine what it would be like.

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Thats all fine and dandyyeahsure

But, at the root of it all, Perspective was not free will. At the root of this life, your body, was not your choice. The “blessings” and “diseases” that came with your body were not at your will.

So your telling me I have a choice.
Choose your own path in a world where deception rules and where you had no choice into coming into this world.hmm
 Quoting: SpawnX

Was? Were?

Are you saying that you have free will now but didn't in the past?

And could you explain this a bit:
We can't choose what we don't have.
 Quoting: Kore

 Quoting: SpawnX

You can only choose from among that which you're able to conceive (or perceive).

You mentioned, "I did not choose my DNA. I choose between limits in perspective which simulates free will."

You didn't choose your DNA because it's not something that you could possibly choose from.

To paraphrase you, "I choose between limits in perspective which simulates DNA"

There is no DNA right now.
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More entertainment!

Vincent van Gogh wanted to be John (Jack), a reaper, three years before 'Jack the Ripper' struck London.

[link to www.qmetaphysics.com]

Don't take it too seriously, though :)
 Quoting: Taom


That’s kind of hard for a dutchman like me, who is just now learning to paint! :)
 Quoting: tuuur

Must be an other one of those coincidences I heard about :)

Very compelling though. I am starting to mistrust anything that is valued ridiculous amounts of money nowadays, like Vincent’s or Rembrandt’s paintings.
 Quoting: tuuur

Much of that is just money laundering. And, of course, trying to get Asians to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something that has no inherent value. At least a few of the ones being sold aren't even the originals.

Reading now. The phrase “hanneke maaier” makes no sense at all in current Dutch. “Hanneke” is a female first name, so it sounds just like for example “Annie mower” would sound in English. I will investigate further.

Found it:
“The word hannekemaaier comes from the name Johannes, frequently shortened to Hannes, and points to the first day the mowers were employed, on Sint Johannesdag (24 june).”

I never heard of that word until now.
 Quoting: tuuur

When I read the letter I thought I heard the name 'Hanneke' before, but maybe I was thinking of 'Heineken', or perhaps Hannah. So I looked it up and delved into it a bit more.

The things by themselves could be coincidence, but added all together there seems to be something under Vincent's apron. ('Jack the Ripper' was originally called Leather Apron, so I wonder if he ever wore one while painting.)
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There is no need to change anything, or nourish anything. It's our choice, and life goes on no matter what choices we make..
 Quoting: Taom


Reality doesn’t stop. No matter what inputs we are giving.

That’s what I have always appreciated about your threads, the instruction on how to make the reality you desire more relevant to your experience. Being a Creator of reality and not just a Player. Of course, we can choose to do nothing.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yeah, but even doing nothing is something. Our minds create drama regardless of how much we try not to do something.

Hopefully more of us, worldwide, can change from players to producers/creators. They just need a good reason to, I guess.
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Has anything ever happened that you thought was 'bad' at the time that you saw had 'good' results or effects later?
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Of course.

Sometimes it takes time though to see the ‘good’.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Then would you say that the 'bad' experience that became 'good' was bad or good?
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It might be a hard pill to swallow but much of the 'love and light' material of the 80's and 90's was a psyop from the agents of chaos.

Satan is the 'lord of light' and all that.
 Quoting: Taom


What about pre 80s 90s
 Quoting: SpawnX

They created all the alternatives in the 20th century. There might be some that they did not create, but I really doubt it. They've not stopped, either. That's how they are able to control society.
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"God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness." -- Is that AOC scripture?
 Quoting: SpawnX

The entire work is.

The material on which it was based is not, however. But much of the meaning was changed.

I think it was very beneficial, however, as before then there wasn't really a 'condensed' version of the original material.

Without light, of course, there is no existence.

Existence need opposites.
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"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

Why create a world and let the ruler be a master of deception? King of the dark artiest?
 Quoting: SpawnX

The 'ruler of the world' is our own self.

By perspective, something is measured. Thus, the ruler.

Why is Lucifer 'gifted?' this dominion?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Resistance makes it so.

Peace and harmony (for lack of better terms) are all ready here. We just haven't learned to see it in the Chaos that surrounds us because we don't want to experience that part of ourselves.
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Creators / Developers have a strong influence on characteristics and free will of their creation..
 Quoting: SpawnX

Would they not be 'creating' themselves?

Or perhaps discovering what is all ready there?

Is this perspective a creation?
 Quoting: SpawnX

There is no 'creation' per se. It's just a convenient term to explain things that are harder to conceive.

I suppose a good-enough analogy would be like a binaural sound, where a third sound is produced from the harmony of two other sounds.

The third sound is not 'created'. It's just your brain drawing a relationship between the two other sounds. Actually creating something would be impossible, I think, because it would be Absolute.
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[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

Quadriga CX founder dies suddenly? Really? Sounds like a signal to me, with a name like that.
 Quoting: tuuur

These guys have been running scams for nearly 20 years. This is the latest one.

The 'CEO' wasn't really running the company, but only made to believe that. The same people behind this were behind the Midas Gold, Liberty Reserve, VFS (Voleur Financial Services, which means 'thief' in French), and other scams. They're all money laundering fronts. Not very clever, but I suppose clever enough.

The 'CEO' is still alive. Once he realized what was going on (that he was set up by the scammers) he made arrangements for a fake death certificate, drew up a will, got married, and made his wife the executor of his estate. (All within the past couple of months)

I don't think that's his real name, though. He also seems to be a shady figure, but was scammed by more professional scammers. They waved a bunch of money in his face and he agreed.

I'm guessing that 'customer funds' disappeared a year ago and are long gone, with their smaller wallets (on exchanges) ready to be drained, if they haven't been yet.

Nearly all of crypto is a scam, unfortunately. It's controlled by... the AOC.

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Has anything ever happened that you thought was 'bad' at the time that you saw had 'good' results or effects later?
 Quoting: Taom


Of course.

Sometimes it takes time though to see the ‘good’.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Then would you say that the 'bad' experience that became 'good' was bad or good?
 Quoting: Taom


It’s an interesting question. I believe that everything that happens to me, happens for a reason. Over time, it’s easier to see how these ‘bad’ experiences help me become the person that I am. And I make peace with them. I embrace them and accept them, because they are me. But, I still wouldn’t wish the experience of them on anyone else. Ever.

So, I guess, to answer your question, it is both. Hard to experience it, live it. Grateful for the lessons learned as time passes and wounds heal. Knowledge is gained through the experience. The balance between ‘good’ and ‘bad’.

What doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger.
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OP you said earlier that 'Magic is deception', did you mean all magic or just some? I ask because I've learned that some magic is possible by reaching a state of consciousness through the use of will/intent and imagination/visualisation, that has enough force to alter reality. And that our consciousness very much plays a part in the manifestation of physical reality. 'Great' teachers have taught this for 1000s of years, were those magicians and mystics all chalatans and deceivers?
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If I wanted to access to information in the metaphysical way you do?, What would you suggest?
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Curious... what would be the first thing you would try to find out?
 Quoting: Taom

First I would try to find out something verifiable and close by, previously unknown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75380804

For example?

Then.... prob see what info I could pull on the current location of Forrest Fenn Bronze Treasure chest
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75380804

Curious... did you take up the previous suggestion about it?
 Quoting: Taom


Fenn does have this to say:
"It seems logical to me that a deep thinking treasure searcher could use logic to determine an important clue to the location of the treasure. Is someone doing that now and I don’t know it? It’s not what they say on the blogs that may be significant, it’s what they whisper.”"


Make it logical for the answer to be in the clue.

For example, you could interpret "It’s not what they say on the blogs that may be significant, it’s what they whisper
." to be something that is not taken seriously on the blogs.

Then your job would be to read 'the blogs' to find out what is talked about but not taken seriously.

You create reality as you go along (because you are interpreting it anew)



I did, browse the blogs. I think the idea that kids might be better equipped to solve the poem isn't taken seriously.

“I think kids have an advantage; Don’t ask me to explain that.” Fenn – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)

Talked about but not taken seriously.

I am trying to simplify my solve to the poem:

I'm trying to incorporate the following quotes, as if the answer is already in what I already have around me. Seeing how the Logic for the answer is already in these clues.

"There is no substitute for thinking and planning and observing and looking at maps, unless it is the desire to keep it simple"

so we just adjust and think of the clues more literally like a kid might. Therefore the 3rd clue "town of Green" is probably just the town named Green just outside the mountains.


"Could use logic to determine an important clue to the location of the treasure.

if we are being simple, waters high, mostly likely just means lakes on mountains.

"Heavy loads" could just be loads on the mountains, or snow capped mountain tops.

So the chest is in a mountain range that in particular has a lot of lakes near its peaks. This would be logical, given Fenn flew over the mountain often and has a story about going to a place after first seeing it from above.

The simplest thing would be a classic X on a map. He has even said,

"Read the poem like you were going to put an X on a map."

No fancy shapes literally just two lines.


"The blueprint is challenging so...located by the one who can best adjust"
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Re: Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)
Has anything ever happened that you thought was 'bad' at the time that you saw had 'good' results or effects later?
 Quoting: Taom


Of course.

Sometimes it takes time though to see the ‘good’.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Then would you say that the 'bad' experience that became 'good' was bad or good?
 Quoting: Taom


It’s an interesting question. I believe that everything that happens to me, happens for a reason. Over time, it’s easier to see how these ‘bad’ experiences help me become the person that I am. And I make peace with them. I embrace them and accept them, because they are me. But, I still wouldn’t wish the experience of them on anyone else. Ever.

So, I guess, to answer your question, it is both. Hard to experience it, live it. Grateful for the lessons learned as time passes and wounds heal. Knowledge is gained through the experience. The balance between ‘good’ and ‘bad’.

What doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Could you say that some things that might have seemed 'good' at first turned out to be 'bad', also?

If so, perhaps things are neither good nor bad.

Then maybe, also, good people are not good, it just seems so from a certain perspective.

Same for the bad and the evil.

It could be the same when looking at the experiences of others...

I think this is hard for me. I definitely look out sometimes and see 'bad' things. 'Bad' things have happened to people I love. This seems like the hardest step. What do you suggest?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I think this is where the concept of only a God being able to 'judge' (but, in my opinion, could not possibly judge anything, ever).

In order to say whether something is good or bad, all things must be known.

We could say that someone being run over by a truck while they're crossing the street is bad however you look at it, but then we are saying that we have perceived its 'effects' (or, relationships) with everything else and have made that determination.

At a primal level, did that person really 'die' or do we just have information about it? If my hand is an illusion that seems real, why would it be any different for a person that gets run over by a truck?

This is the eternal question: If there is a God then why does it let these things happen?

We are made to think of this from a human perspective, not the perspective of the thing we're talking about.

By hiding this, others can promote a narrative that 'there is no God, because if there was he wouldn't let people suffer", etc.

We think nothing of killing our cells when we have an intensive workout (also shortening our lives) and may even feel satisfaction with it. Might the surviving cells then say, "If there is really a human, why does she let these things happen to us?"
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