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New Jersey Declares War On Its Residents: Plans Door-To-Door Gun Confiscation Campaign

 
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No search warrant without probably cause, with specific evidence, I'd politely tell LEO NOT WITHOUT proper warrant. Come back with one with reasons and specific property for warrant. Let them know it's upon your attorney's advise and unconstitutional and cant' enter private residence without proper supernal documentation.
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Um good luck with that. Apparently you've never dealt with law enforcement. They do whatever they want and rarely get told "no" at a later date by the court.
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I've worked as former CAP (civilian assisting police). Unless they serve you a valid warrant, you can them to fuck off until they present you valid court ordered warrant. Regardless of "welfare state" or similar they try to trick you with. Police have no authority to search person or residence without probable cause.
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I have dealt with them on the other side of the coin and know for fact they could give two shits about a warrant. They do what they want. The pd you rode with is the exception if you think otherwise.
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Very True unless you Drop names you know that are uppers in the government,or say your actually a lawyer..

Then they seem to back the heck off..kinda having your own little power stick.
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Sounds like they will not even use something akin to the

Writ of Assistance.
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Jersey is seriously fucked up.
I worked up there back in '06 for a couple weeks on power plants. I had my 30' 5th wheel behind my '05 Dodge dually.
In a concealed compartment I had several pistols, 2 AR's and thousands of rounds of ammo. There was a shooting range just a mile down the road I tried to get into. Seemed always closed, good thing!
If local PD had any idea the stuff I had with me....I'd STILL be in jail.
AR's had to be welded flash suppressors, I think all guns registered etc.
What part of "Shall not be infringed" do they not understand?

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This is so dangerous.
A felony.

For any magazine that holds over 10 rounds?!?!

So a Browning Hi Power from 19frigging35 will suddenly make you into a felon?

and, the vast majority of pistol magazines currently.

How did the the number 10 become the dividing point between law abiding and criminal ( and a felony) ?
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A New Jersey law that makes it a felony to possess a gun magazine capable of holding over 10 rounds of ammunition is now active.

This wildly unconstitutional law instantly criminalizes hundreds of thousands of New Jersey citizens who legally acquired normal capacity firearms magazines - which include 17-round pistol magazines and 30-round rifle magazines - as tools of self-defense against the very same violent criminals that are protected by the Democrats who passed the gun magazine ban.

Now, the New Jersey State Police have told Breitbart News they won’t rule out “house-to-house enforcement” of the new magazine ban, meaning they plan to conduct house-to-house arrests and gun magazine confiscations. These Nazi-style anti-gun operations will, of course, be carried out at gunpoint, further underscoring the entire purpose of the Second Amendment and the need for citizens to arm themselves with 30-round magazines to defend against government tyranny.
Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban, reports Breitbart.com.

“The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: ‘We do not discuss enforcement strategies.'”

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

wtf

Has Jersey gone full retard?
 Quoting: Fight The Power


Gone? It's been here for decades now.
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Do you notice that it is a flint lock black powder rifle?
That was the most advanced rifle of the day. Those will soon be the only rifles allowed by the Ruling Class as they were around when the bill of rights went into effect.
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They are still good enough to use to get an upgrade.
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That Charlton Heston?
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
I lost my apathy.
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's going to happen before 2020.
I lost my apathy.
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does that mean no drum mags ?
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what about m 60s and rambo belt of ammo ? would that count ? or no
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's going to happen before 2020.
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


It might turn into a full blown revolution!
I lost my apathy.
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Once cannot follow the constitution and the law that they passed. It is justifiable according to the founders to resist with force and half of the country would be behind them.
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's going to happen before 2020.
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


Again, you are not very bright.

civ·il

adjective
1.
relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.
"civil aviation"
synonyms: secular, nonreligious, lay; More
2.
courteous and polite.
"we tried to be civil to him"
synonyms: polite, courteous, well mannered, well bred, chivalrous, gallant; More

Even you can figure it out.
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The stupidest thing is to ban arms for the citizen ...
When I moved to Brazil, people could own and carry guns and crime was practically non-existent
Then they restricted the possession of weapons. Now only the bad guys have guns and the country has the highest murder rate in the world.
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home made extended mags comming to a theaterr near you .. never under estimate americans
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Civil War in 3 2 1...
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's going to happen before 2020.
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


Again, you are not very bright.

civ·il

adjective
1.
relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.
"civil aviation"
synonyms: secular, nonreligious, lay; More
2.
courteous and polite.
"we tried to be civil to him"
synonyms: polite, courteous, well mannered, well bred, chivalrous, gallant; More

Even you can figure it out.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors




So, does that mean that the 1861-1865 war needs to be renamed?
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The stupidest thing is to ban arms for the citizen ...
When I moved to Brazil, people could own and carry guns and crime was practically non-existent
Then they restricted the possession of weapons. Now only the bad guys have guns and the country has the highest murder rate in the world.
 Quoting: marcomartim


That is the plan and it is not by accident.
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...


DERP, there will never be a civil war. Your ilk seems to think there will be. No!
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


It's going to happen before 2020.
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


Again, you are not very bright.

civ·il

adjective
1.
relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.
"civil aviation"
synonyms: secular, nonreligious, lay; More
2.
courteous and polite.
"we tried to be civil to him"
synonyms: polite, courteous, well mannered, well bred, chivalrous, gallant; More

Even you can figure it out.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors




So, does that mean that the 1861-1865 war needs to be renamed?
 Quoting: Crooked Authority Sucks


Yes, that was a war between the states. The word you are looking for is revolution.
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Alot of people are going to die.

I wouldn't want to be the collector!
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New Jersey is a shithole full of assholes. They have a wiseguy type of superiority complex and they suck. They won't band together in anyway. It would've been my first choice to set the stage. This sounds like an ignorant generalization. This is generally true and you will see them hand in the guns one household at a time. I feel for the minority who would unite. There just is no way. Anyone who tries to facilitate would become immediate target. Anyone who tries to stand up alone will be branded a domestic looney terrorist. This has gone too far we are weaklings. We have no structure. Turn in your guns and get the new iPhone. We're purified of course we can all talk a big game on here. When enforcement comes knocking we'll see your truths. No-one hates this more than me. Someone please show me I'm wrong.
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Hmm, isn't Jersey the state where they found a ton of firearms in a mosque and did nothing about it a few years ago??? Someone help me find that story!!!!

I don't trust Jersey, keep awake!!!
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trump america: take the guns first deal with due process later - DJT
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badsign
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trump america: take the guns first deal with due process later - DJT
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So how does the fucking Constitution work in this situation?
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ask this guy about the constitution


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when
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If a massive door-to-door gun grab ever really does happen, regardless of the state, I see three options for civilians:

1: Defend your home and your rights with lethal force, and end up getting killed or sent to prison for a very long time. And they take your guns anyway.

2: Be a sheep and let them search your house and take your guns with no shots fired.

3: Pretend to be a sheep, and let them search your house, find a couple of guns which they will confiscate while you keep your eyes on the floor. But you have prepared in advance and your real firearms are stashed in watertight containers deep in the woods.

That way the government has you labeled as a sheep instead of a troublemaker, and you are still prepared for taking care of yourself and your family, which is not the result of option 1 or 2.

Sun Tzu stated that all warfare is based on deception. When strong, appear to be weak to your enemy.

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If a massive door-to-door gun grab ever really does happen, regardless of the state, I see three options for civilians:

1: Defend your home and your rights with lethal force, and end up getting killed or sent to prison for a very long time. And they take your guns anyway.

2: Be a sheep and let them search your house and take your guns with no shots fired.

3: Pretend to be a sheep, and let them search your house, find a couple of guns which they will confiscate while you keep your eyes on the floor. But you have prepared in advance and your real firearms are stashed in watertight containers deep in the woods.

That way the government has you labeled as a sheep instead of a troublemaker, and you are still prepared for taking care of yourself and your family, which is not the result of option 1 or 2.

Sun Tzu stated that all warfare is based on deception. When strong, appear to be weak to your enemy.

The most important weapon you possess is your brain. Use it first.
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A New Jersey law that makes it a felony to possess a gun magazine capable of holding over 10 rounds of ammunition is now active.

This wildly unconstitutional law instantly criminalizes hundreds of thousands of New Jersey citizens who legally acquired normal capacity firearms magazines - which include 17-round pistol magazines and 30-round rifle magazines - as tools of self-defense against the very same violent criminals that are protected by the Democrats who passed the gun magazine ban.

Now, the New Jersey State Police have told Breitbart News they won’t rule out “house-to-house enforcement” of the new magazine ban, meaning they plan to conduct house-to-house arrests and gun magazine confiscations. These Nazi-style anti-gun operations will, of course, be carried out at gunpoint, further underscoring the entire purpose of the Second Amendment and the need for citizens to arm themselves with 30-round magazines to defend against government tyranny.
Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban, reports Breitbart.com.

“The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: ‘We do not discuss enforcement strategies.'”

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

wtf

Has Jersey gone full retard?
 Quoting: Fight The Power




... A few points id like to make OP...

Yes. Jersey has gone full retard. While personally I agree, this is wildly unconstitutional as you or I see the constitution... by definition, a state CAN pass a law thats harder then the constitution.. which is what NJ did in this case.

Heres my issue with your thread. You quote breitbart, but then link zerohedge.

The NJSP have specifically stated they have NO PLANS TO GO DOOR-TO-DOOR... and yet you typed exactly the opposite, again, without citing your source.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]

“While we do not discuss our enforcement strategies, there are no plans to go door-to-door to enforce this current ban.” - a spokesperson for NJSP (could not find the name of this source)

Lets just assume all of this is nonsense.. and they do plan on going door-to-door.

Weather or not there is a law against magazine size/capacity, that does NOT give them the right to search your house.

NJSP: Knock Knock, state police
Home Owner : Yes, can I help you?
NJSP: Were going door to door, to confiscate illegal magazines for guns.
Home Owner : Thats nice. Got a warrant? No? Have a great day officers!





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