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Butthead  User ID: 76957208  Canada12/14/2018 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Concorde Warrior F-BVFA User ID: 76997923  France12/14/2018 01:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lamborghini? That's small time. There is a pastor near me who owns his own airport. With a Private Jet and a few other planes. The Airport his ministry is built on was a old Air Force Base. You could land Air Force One there LOL! Quoting: Schloss Meerblick Kenneth Copeland. Of course I voted no. If he wanted a brand new car for his wife a 80k chevy tahoe is just as good as a Italian SUV. I also voted no. Look at this pastor. He owns a collectible Jumbo Jet, a Boeing 747SP. I only knew him because of the plane. The man is mega-rich. Ernest Angley Ernest Angley's ministry operates a Boeing 747SP, named Star Triple Seven[5] and bearing registration P4-FSH,[6] which it uses to transport missionaries and humanitarian aid internationally.[7] The P4- tail number denotes that the aircraft is registered in Aruba. -50% [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This used to be a former Dubai Air Wing aircraft (royal fleet).  I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator 12/14/2018 01:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lamborghini? That's small time. There is a pastor near me who owns his own airport. With a Private Jet and a few other planes. The Airport his ministry is built on was a old Air Force Base. You could land Air Force One there LOL! Quoting: Schloss Meerblick Kenneth Copeland. Of course I voted no. If he wanted a brand new car for his wife a 80k chevy tahoe is just as good as a Italian SUV. You all do understand that these pastors pay next to nothing in income taxes, and property taxes? The church, a tax free "entity" owns almost all this stuff. If I really wanted to be a tax cheat, I could take the weekend training to become a "strip mall pastor", then place everything I own under my "church". Heck, maybe I will do that in conjunction with getting my international yoga certification in 2019?? I will be a spiritual "minister"(sarcasm). Le sigh .... it all pisses me off. Good Point why not own a airport if you don't have to pay tax on the property . Exactly. Get your weekend "ordination" cert, then put your house, cars, investment, BTC, whatever in a trust under the name of your "church" (of course, you own the trust in its entirety). Then I could have Mr. LJS donate his entire gross income to my "church" -- he takes a full charitable deduction, owing nothing, and we get everything tax free -- including if I chose to cash out an investment for something. Major scam.  Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A  |
| Big Daddy D Chaotic Constitutionalist User ID: 48865774  United States12/14/2018 01:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your spouse's life long dream is to own a lambo, then you married the wrong person. Last Edited by Big Daddy D on 12/14/2018 01:03 PM HWR The US is a One Party State controlled by a small cadre of Financiers Big Daddy D |
| rosicrucian1 User ID: 76960994 Canada12/14/2018 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lamborghini? That's small time. There is a pastor near me who owns his own airport. With a Private Jet and a few other planes. The Airport his ministry is built on was a old Air Force Base. You could land Air Force One there LOL! Quoting: Schloss Meerblick Kenneth Copeland. Of course I voted no. If he wanted a brand new car for his wife a 80k chevy tahoe is just as good as a Italian SUV. I also voted no. Look at this pastor. He owns a collectible Jumbo Jet, a Boeing 747SP. I only knew him because of the plane. The man is mega-rich. Ernest Angley Ernest Angley's ministry operates a Boeing 747SP, named Star Triple Seven[5] and bearing registration P4-FSH,[6] which it uses to transport missionaries and humanitarian aid internationally.[7] The P4- tail number denotes that the aircraft is registered in Aruba. -50% [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This used to be a former Dubai Air Wing aircraft (royal fleet). look at the logo on the plane... it is a star 13.3 degrees turned... “the devil is a foe to the blood” Prof. Minor |
| darkwolf007 User ID: 77086694 United States12/14/2018 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lamborghini? That's small time. There is a pastor near me who owns his own airport. With a Private Jet and a few other planes. The Airport his ministry is built on was a old Air Force Base. You could land Air Force One there LOL! Quoting: Schloss Meerblick Kenneth Copeland. Of course I voted no. If he wanted a brand new car for his wife a 80k chevy tahoe is just as good as a Italian SUV. You all do understand that these pastors pay next to nothing in income taxes, and property taxes? The church, a tax free "entity" owns almost all this stuff. If I really wanted to be a tax cheat, I could take the weekend training to become a "strip mall pastor", then place everything I own under my "church". Heck, maybe I will do that in conjunction with getting my international yoga certification in 2019?? I will be a spiritual "minister"(sarcasm). Le sigh .... it all pisses me off. These people are devout Luciferians. That's how and why they're "allowed" to do the things they're capable of doing. It's one of many reasons why I avoid these so called Christian leaders since they're all Corrupt. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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| nimmerfall User ID: 72716118 United States12/14/2018 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | real Lamborghinis have 12-cylinder engines and doors that open in a scissor fashion (distinct from gullwing). This pastor should be strung up for being such a rank, gauche poseur. Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
| Eilonwy User ID: 77197203 United States12/14/2018 01:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The poll question was: "Should A Pastor Teaching Jesus Have Such Luxury?" I voted no but want to add an idea that lightens my world. I've given up on the word "should". The fact is he does and he will. No amount of "should" will change this. I only use "should" for my own behavior now. It keeps me saner, and I think it helps me see the world as it is. Last Edited by Eilonwy on 12/14/2018 01:16 PM “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
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| Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States12/14/2018 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would also like to mention, while many like to beat up on Mark Taylor.. he is the only man I have heard who dares to call into question the whole 501c3 situation and how churches are literally corporations whose allegiance is more to the government than to God. He also has mentioned a very interesting agreement many thousands of pastors have signed onto, which in effect says that they (pastors) will turn over their flock (give up names) if so required by law. I can't remember the name for this but it was an eye opener to hear such a thing existed. Last Edited by Evangelina on 12/14/2018 01:21 PM You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
| Pilgrim001 User ID: 77021014 United States12/14/2018 01:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's disgraceful. People give to the ministries to help spread the gospel and to help others, not to enrich the pastors/evangelists. Kenneth COpeland says he is a Billionaire. That is at least 1000 Million $. They take from the poor and buy airplanes and expensive cars and houses. I not going to say that they are worse in their standing with God than me, They surely aren't, but I think it's wrong. Last Edited by Bennder on 12/14/2018 01:24 PM I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Nonfeminazi User ID: 77183831 United States12/14/2018 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gray, who is a Cincinnati native, also remains an associate pastor at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston while taking the lead at Relentless. Gray has control of the assets of the Greenville church, its vision, and the future of its ministry. Quoting: Goofy for God [link to www.khou.com (secure)] Jesus was born in a manager and rode a donkey! Matthew 19:30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. No, a car is transportation and there are plenty of other less expensive cars that can do the speed limit quite well. I know a pastor with a helicopter, but, this pastor has three different locations in different cities he preaches at on the same day so I understand him needing to get somewhere quickly. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
| Hostess Cupcake User ID: 76358436 United States12/14/2018 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A fool and his money. Stupid is as stupid does? "Back from the dead bitch with a swarm of locusts." ~ My Psychosis "Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished." ~ US Banker's Magazine, August 25 1924 |
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| Pilgrim001 User ID: 77021014 United States12/14/2018 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gray, who is a Cincinnati native, also remains an associate pastor at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston while taking the lead at Relentless. Gray has control of the assets of the Greenville church, its vision, and the future of its ministry. Quoting: Goofy for God [link to www.khou.com (secure)] Jesus was born in a manager and rode a donkey! Matthew 19:30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. No, a car is transportation and there are plenty of other less expensive cars that can do the speed limit quite well. I know a pastor with a helicopter, but, this pastor has three different locations in different cities he preaches at on the same day so I understand him needing to get somewhere quickly. He maybe a blessed speaker, but nobody can "pastor" 3 churches at the same time. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Alien grey User ID: 77198518  Ireland12/14/2018 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vile! I wish that they'd swoop down in a country lane Late at night when I'm driving Take me on board their beautiful ship Show me the world as I'd love to see it I'd tell all my friends but they'd never believe me They'd think that I'd finally lost it completely I'd show them the stars and the meaning of life They'd shut me away But I'd be alright Alright I'm alright Alright [link to youtu.be (secure)] [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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| The ring of truth User ID: 72030616 United States12/14/2018 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the freaking pope, he has lots of goodies.. Planes, pope mobile, and other things we don't know about.. TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND! Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH! Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON... ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS! |
| telling it straight User ID: 74362628 United States12/14/2018 01:36 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gray, who is a Cincinnati native, also remains an associate pastor at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston while taking the lead at Relentless. Gray has control of the assets of the Greenville church, its vision, and the future of its ministry. Quoting: Goofy for God [link to www.khou.com (secure)] Jesus was born in a manager and rode a donkey! Matthew 19:30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Religion: a joke no one gets. I voted no even though he probably got the $ for the car from his book sales and not the collection bucket. Last Edited by telling it straight on 12/14/2018 01:37 PM |
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| nimmerfall User ID: 72716118 United States12/14/2018 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ferrari = For Ra eye. Quoting: Bad visibility ahead Its makes perfect sense. They are all worshipping Amen Ra. So he need a "For Ra Eye". I vote "YES". Enzo Ferrari and Ferruccio Lamborghini were mortal enemies. Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
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| darkwolf007 User ID: 77086694 United States12/14/2018 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If you want to be perfect," Jesus said to him, "go, sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." Quoting: jake ^^that^^ ^^^THIS X2^^^ MOAR X3   Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
| What is Aleppo User ID: 75131468 United States12/14/2018 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joel O. Stein can get his teeth bleached again and more face work. Hallelujah!! Apollo astronauts could not have passed through Van Allen’s Belt; Van Allen wore suspenders. Joanie Loves Tchotchke. “No puppet. No puppet. YOU’RE the puppet.” |
| darkwolf007 User ID: 77086694 United States12/14/2018 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ass... Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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