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POLL: If New Theory "Tornadoes from Ground UP" is TRUE...then
 This puts a WHOLE NEW SPIN on "The Wizard of Oz"
 It shows S.O. and ohers making strides on "Electric Universe" research!
 It is good news because it CAN be addressed with physics.
 GIANT MAGNETS in "Tornado Alley" might SAVE lives!
 Rebuilding after tornado destruction is stupid--It'll happen again!
 Places like "Tornado Alley" have electrical anomalies in ground
 They could be electrical vortexes for time-travel!
 It will mean meteorologist may need to GO BACK TO SCHOOL!
 ...Mainstream science WILL push back hard to fight it's acceptance.
 Explains why wierd stuff happens in Tornadoes!
 "Panic Pizza" tonight in Tornadoe Alley!
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EDITED: 12-14-2018:

TORNADO FILMED 12-02-2019 AT GA NAVAL BASE:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE


Cut and paste from an earlier thread I hosted on GLP:
"Your Bug-out Bag is NOT Big Enough!" (SilentlyKnowing2014)

and...WHY...I am posting this again 12-14-2018:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!


End OF EDITS
hf hf hf hf




You are Bruce Willis....(You are brave, sexy and
smart...but you LACK some really important information.)

You are on a routine business trip from your hometown
to New York. You aren't an experienced traveler...so
when the train begins to speed up...at first you don't
really think anything is wrong. You're concerned...but
you just ignore it.

...Then you notice that others beside you are holding
so tightly to their arm-rests that their hands are
turning BLUE. You realize...The train is about to crash!



[link to www.youtube.com]
"Fair Use Clause" applies for the use of this movie trailer.
FairUSE

Now...imagine, again, that you are Bruce Willis in
this speeding train--your life is flashing before your
eyes because you know you may die any second.
The fellow in the seat beside you leans over and SHOUTS:

"Hey Buddy! You might want to STUFF some of those crackers
the Porter gave you down in your socks! You'll need
something to eat while you're trapped in this train
wreck for next 18 hours!"

Then he laughs this evil laugh...and adds:


"This is a public service message from "Readydot.Gov!"



Watch the following video--also "public service announcement" which
appeared on national T.V. in 2012. (This was WELL BEFORE he had the
news yesterday from S.O. 12=13-2018 that..."Tornadoes FORM FROM THE GROUND UP!"

:EarthPlasma:
"Ground=up" photo of "electrical plasma discharge"
this past year...S.O. suggests that tornadoes form
AROUND these events given certain weather and wind
conditions.

Ready Dot Gov "PREPARE" video


[link to www.youtube.com]
Keeping in mind that scene with Bruce Willis being
told to stuff "crackers in his socks" in preparation
for the FATAL TRAIN WRECK--that is equally how INSANE
making a "bug-out-bag" in the case of a coming TORNADO
FORMING FROM THE GROUND UP (as in "Tornado Alley")...or a
"Global-emergency" truly may be (like a "crustal pole shift!"
See movie "2012")

THEN COMES TODAY THE REPORT FROM "SUSPICIOUS OBSERVERS" THAT TORNADOS
FORM FROM THE GROUND UP...AND ARE IN FACT "ELECTRICAL" IN NATURE!



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
FF to 1:57 Min mark for "Abstract on Tornadogenesis"
by Jana Houser and Dr. Bluestein from Fall Meeting
published 12-14-2018 (hot off the press!)

"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!

The "uncomfortable truth" Readydot.Gov is NOT telling us is ...
We don't need to "Make a Plan...Get a kit"--... WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF HARMS WAY!

In some cases it will mean moving away from areas coined as "Tornado Alley"
or from coastlines and large bodies of water. "Out of Harm's Way"...May mean
moving away NOW from KNOWN active fault zones--like the San Andreas and The
New Madrid Fault. It may mean evaluating your dangers being "Up-wind" or
up-stream from operating nuclear power plants!)

BugoutCAR

Just another thought...If Suspicious Observers are correct (that tornadeos
are ELECTRICAL IN NATURE and form from the ground up...) then these areas
of the U.S.A. where we have seen horrific damage and loss of life from
Tornadoes MUST BE ELECTRICAL CONDUIT LOCATIONS and should NOT be rebuilt
(unless the CAUSE of this "electrical connection" is REMOVED! Think about
how THAT would be accomplished?) This should also put folks who are currently
living in these areas where tornadoes are historical ON NOTICE they should
either move from "harm's way" or construct SERIOUS SHELTERS!

cheers
O'sCookie

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COULD THIS BE PREVENTED...NOW WE KNOW IT IS "ELECTRIC?"
(Can someone PULL THE ELECTRIC PLUG?)

8 of the Worst Tornado attacks in History


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11 Minutes


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"Super Cell Formation" Wow

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2 Minute duration

Just a few videos available online. Searched for
"worst tornado in history" for these.

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EDITED: 12-15-2018 Just published today on MrMBB333--the
link between rock structure (under the ground) may
explain the "electrical connection" to tornadoes and
earthquakes! wow!


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10 Minute duration. Published 12-15-2018

Lots of new theories coming up about the "electrical
connection" of quakes and weather on our planet.

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Or they start in mid air and spread both up and down.

I saw a mini tornado/microburst once. Was standing less than 20 feet away in shelter. The noise was unreal. A vortex that appeared about 20 ft in the air and pounded the ground below for a few seconds. Anybody standing in that spot would have been killed.
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Or they start in mid air and spread both up and down.

I saw a mini tornado/microburst once. Was standing less than 20 feet away in shelter. The noise was unreal. A vortex that appeared about 20 ft in the air and pounded the ground below for a few seconds. Anybody standing in that spot would have been killed.
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Dang. That's nuts. Well, the ice age is rapidly approaching. Worldwide weather is getting pretty dang insane... alot more than just a few years ago.
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Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
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Or they start in mid air and spread both up and down.

I saw a mini tornado/microburst once. Was standing less than 20 feet away in shelter. The noise was unreal. A vortex that appeared about 20 ft in the air and pounded the ground below for a few seconds. Anybody standing in that spot would have been killed.
 Quoting: mahownlittlebunnyrabbit


Dang. That's nuts. Well, the ice age is rapidly approaching. Worldwide weather is getting pretty dang insane... alot more than just a few years ago.
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Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
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It's hard to wrap your mind around, but it would explain
why it appears that the majority of these twisters hit
certain areas of the U.S.A....the ground in "Tornado Alley"
MUST BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED. (Lots of iron in the soils
or something even deeper below the surface?)

cheers
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EDITED: 12-14-2018:

TORNADO FILMED 12-02-2019 AT GA NAVAL BASE:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE


Cut and paste from an earlier thread I hosted on GLP:
"Your Bug-out Bag is NOT Big Enough!" (SilentlyKnowing2014)

and...WHY...I am posting this again 12-14-2018:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!


End OF EDITS
hf hf hf hf




You are Bruce Willis....(You are brave, sexy and
smart...but you LACK some really important information.)

You are on a routine business trip from your hometown
to New York. You aren't an experienced traveler...so
when the train begins to speed up...at first you don't
really think anything is wrong. You're concerned...but
you just ignore it.

...Then you notice that others beside you are holding
so tightly to their arm-rests that their hands are
turning BLUE. You realize...The train is about to crash!



[link to www.youtube.com]
"Fair Use Clause" applies for the use of this movie trailer.
FairUSE

Now...imagine, again, that you are Bruce Willis in
this speeding train--your life is flashing before your
eyes because you know you may die any second.
The fellow in the seat beside you leans over and SHOUTS:

"Hey Buddy! You might want to STUFF some of those crackers
the Porter gave you down in your socks! You'll need
something to eat while you're trapped in this train
wreck for next 18 hours!"

Then he laughs this evil laugh...and adds:


"This is a public service message from "Readydot.Gov!"



Watch the following video--also "public service announcement" which
appeared on national T.V. in 2012. (This was WELL BEFORE he had the
news yesterday from S.O. 12=13-2018 that..."Tornadoes FORM FROM THE GROUND UP!"

:EarthPlasma:
"Ground=up" photo of "electrical plasma discharge"
this past year...S.O. suggests that tornadoes form
AROUND these events given certain weather and wind
conditions.

Ready Dot Gov "PREPARE" video


[link to www.youtube.com]
Keeping in mind that scene with Bruce Willis being
told to stuff "crackers in his socks" in preparation
for the FATAL TRAIN WRECK--that is equally how INSANE
making a "bug-out-bag" in the case of a coming TORNADO
FORMING FROM THE GROUND UP (as in "Tornado Alley")...or a
"Global-emergency" truly may be (like a "crustal pole shift!"
See movie "2012")

THEN COMES TODAY THE REPORT FROM "SUSPICIOUS OBSERVERS" THAT TORNADOS
FORM FROM THE GROUND UP...AND ARE IN FACT "ELECTRICAL" IN NATURE!



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
FF to 1:57 Min mark for "Abstract on Tornadogenesis"
by Jana Houser and Dr. Bluestein from Fall Meeting
published 12-14-2018 (hot off the press!)

"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!

The "uncomfortable truth" Readydot.Gov is NOT telling us is ...
We don't need to "Make a Plan...Get a kit"--... WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF HARMS WAY!

In some cases it will mean moving away from areas coined as "Tornado Alley"
or from coastlines and large bodies of water. "Out of Harm's Way"...May mean
moving away NOW from KNOWN active fault zones--like the San Andreas and The
New Madrid Fault. It may mean evaluating your dangers being "Up-wind" or
up-stream from operating nuclear power plants!)

BugoutCAR

Just another thought...If Suspicious Observers are correct (that tornadeos
are ELECTRICAL IN NATURE and form from the ground up...) then these areas
of the U.S.A. where we have seen horrific damage and loss of life from
Tornadoes MUST BE ELECTRICAL CONDUIT LOCATIONS and should NOT be rebuilt
(unless the CAUSE of this "electrical connection" is REMOVED! Think about
how THAT would be accomplished?) This should also put folks who are currently
living in these areas where tornadoes are historical ON NOTICE they should
either move from "harm's way" or construct SERIOUS SHELTERS!

cheers
O'sCookie

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Tornadoes along with lightening have always originated from the ground...not sure what the news is here.
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Near me a tornado hit the giant highway electric towers like it was searching for them
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Or they start in mid air and spread both up and down.

I saw a mini tornado/microburst once. Was standing less than 20 feet away in shelter. The noise was unreal. A vortex that appeared about 20 ft in the air and pounded the ground below for a few seconds. Anybody standing in that spot would have been killed.
 Quoting: mahownlittlebunnyrabbit


Dang. That's nuts. Well, the ice age is rapidly approaching. Worldwide weather is getting pretty dang insane... alot more than just a few years ago.
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Signs of His soon return.

Maranatha!
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Indeed...

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I've seen three form at the ground. Have seen 3 or 4 dip out of the sky. So, it's both.
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I've seen three form at the ground. Have seen 3 or 4 dip out of the sky. So, it's both.
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EDITED: 12-14-2018:

TORNADO FILMED 12-02-2019 AT GA NAVAL BASE:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE


Cut and paste from an earlier thread I hosted on GLP:
"Your Bug-out Bag is NOT Big Enough!" (SilentlyKnowing2014)

and...WHY...I am posting this again 12-14-2018:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!


End OF EDITS
hf hf hf hf




You are Bruce Willis....(You are brave, sexy and
smart...but you LACK some really important information.)

You are on a routine business trip from your hometown
to New York. You aren't an experienced traveler...so
when the train begins to speed up...at first you don't
really think anything is wrong. You're concerned...but
you just ignore it.

...Then you notice that others beside you are holding
so tightly to their arm-rests that their hands are
turning BLUE. You realize...The train is about to crash!



[link to www.youtube.com]
"Fair Use Clause" applies for the use of this movie trailer.
FairUSE

Now...imagine, again, that you are Bruce Willis in
this speeding train--your life is flashing before your
eyes because you know you may die any second.
The fellow in the seat beside you leans over and SHOUTS:

"Hey Buddy! You might want to STUFF some of those crackers
the Porter gave you down in your socks! You'll need
something to eat while you're trapped in this train
wreck for next 18 hours!"

Then he laughs this evil laugh...and adds:


"This is a public service message from "Readydot.Gov!"



Watch the following video--also "public service announcement" which
appeared on national T.V. in 2012. (This was WELL BEFORE he had the
news yesterday from S.O. 12=13-2018 that..."Tornadoes FORM FROM THE GROUND UP!"

:EarthPlasma:
"Ground=up" photo of "electrical plasma discharge"
this past year...S.O. suggests that tornadoes form
AROUND these events given certain weather and wind
conditions.

Ready Dot Gov "PREPARE" video


[link to www.youtube.com]
Keeping in mind that scene with Bruce Willis being
told to stuff "crackers in his socks" in preparation
for the FATAL TRAIN WRECK--that is equally how INSANE
making a "bug-out-bag" in the case of a coming TORNADO
FORMING FROM THE GROUND UP (as in "Tornado Alley")...or a
"Global-emergency" truly may be (like a "crustal pole shift!"
See movie "2012")

THEN COMES TODAY THE REPORT FROM "SUSPICIOUS OBSERVERS" THAT TORNADOS
FORM FROM THE GROUND UP...AND ARE IN FACT "ELECTRICAL" IN NATURE!



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
FF to 1:57 Min mark for "Abstract on Tornadogenesis"
by Jana Houser and Dr. Bluestein from Fall Meeting
published 12-14-2018 (hot off the press!)

"TORNADO SUPRISE" video from SuspiciousObservers
reports...HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT..."Tornadoes form
from the ground UP." THIS is HUGE!

The "uncomfortable truth" Readydot.Gov is NOT telling us is ...
We don't need to "Make a Plan...Get a kit"--... WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF HARMS WAY!

In some cases it will mean moving away from areas coined as "Tornado Alley"
or from coastlines and large bodies of water. "Out of Harm's Way"...May mean
moving away NOW from KNOWN active fault zones--like the San Andreas and The
New Madrid Fault. It may mean evaluating your dangers being "Up-wind" or
up-stream from operating nuclear power plants!)

BugoutCAR

Just another thought...If Suspicious Observers are correct (that tornadeos
are ELECTRICAL IN NATURE and form from the ground up...) then these areas
of the U.S.A. where we have seen horrific damage and loss of life from
Tornadoes MUST BE ELECTRICAL CONDUIT LOCATIONS and should NOT be rebuilt
(unless the CAUSE of this "electrical connection" is REMOVED! Think about
how THAT would be accomplished?) This should also put folks who are currently
living in these areas where tornadoes are historical ON NOTICE they should
either move from "harm's way" or construct SERIOUS SHELTERS!

cheers
O'sCookie

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Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.”
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They always form on the ground first, usually from forward flank updrafts and cold air. I'm glad to see scientists finally catching on.
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I've seen three form at the ground. Have seen 3 or 4 dip out of the sky. So, it's both.
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IMO the dipping is an optical illusion. It's the force of the updraft rising from the ground making it appear like it's dipping. When you observed this did the funnels appear to jump/jerk around? That's been my personal observation. The funnels jerk around as if they're twitching.
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Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
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It's hard to wrap your mind around, but it would explain
why it appears that the majority of these twisters hit
certain areas of the U.S.A....the ground in "Tornado Alley"
MUST BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED. (Lots of iron in the soils
or something even deeper below the surface?)

cheers
O'sCookie
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Just to get this straight, you now believe they start from the ground up, correct?

I saw no links to scientific studies to back this theory.
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They always form on the ground first, usually from forward flank updrafts and cold air. I'm glad to see scientists finally catching on.
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Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
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It's hard to wrap your mind around, but it would explain
why it appears that the majority of these twisters hit
certain areas of the U.S.A....the ground in "Tornado Alley"
MUST BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED. (Lots of iron in the soils
or something even deeper below the surface?)

cheers
O'sCookie
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Just to get this straight, you now believe they start from the ground up, correct?

I saw no links to scientific studies to back this theory.
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Look very very close at the intro, kiddo.

Video at 2 Min mark shows the abstract on-screen
and I have the names of the 2 scientists listed.

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I've seen three form at the ground. Have seen 3 or 4 dip out of the sky. So, it's both.
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IMO the dipping is an optical illusion. It's the force of the updraft rising from the ground making it appear like it's dipping. When you observed this did the funnels appear to jump/jerk around? That's been my personal observation. The funnels jerk around as if they're twitching.
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Correct, the vortex forms in the storm, first horizontally. Once it achieves sufficient velocity it starts to stand up. This in turn sucks cloud base into the top of the vortex, forming the funnel cloud.

Once the vortex reaches the ground, it starts sucking up dirt and debris which completes the column from the ground up. The vortex, from the base of the funnel cloud downward, is invisible until it reaches the ground and starts sucking up debris.

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If you must resort to violence, then you've already lost.



John Conner - Rising Sun
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Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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Psst....I love charcoal.
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.
.
FYI, I'm not Canadian.

I am a born, raised and current die hard Texan!

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If a tornado formed from the ground up there would be debris near the surface before a funnel cloud would form.

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Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
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It's hard to wrap your mind around, but it would explain
why it appears that the majority of these twisters hit
certain areas of the U.S.A....the ground in "Tornado Alley"
MUST BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED. (Lots of iron in the soils
or something even deeper below the surface?)

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O'sCookie
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O's C,

I have said this (about the "electrical part") for YEARS, after noticing that many, most - really, tornadoes always - ALWAYS - seem to head in the direction of mobile homes and mobile home parks.

The METAL in them seems to attract tornadoes.

BTW - I was in a mobile home once, when a tornado came within just a quarter-mile from me. It was spooky! And then when it was the closest it came, there was a loud POP! Like "circuits" shorting out...hair standing on end....that was my first observation of such a phenomenon.

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Re: Blow your mind! Tornadoes NOW believed to form from GROUND...UP!" Video
I've seen three form at the ground. Have seen 3 or 4 dip out of the sky. So, it's both.
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IMO the dipping is an optical illusion. It's the force of the updraft rising from the ground making it appear like it's dipping. When you observed this did the funnels appear to jump/jerk around? That's been my personal observation. The funnels jerk around as if they're twitching.
 Quoting: New Age Scam Artist


Correct, the vortex forms in the storm, first horizontally. Once it achieves sufficient velocity it starts to stand up. This in turn sucks cloud base into the top of the vortex, forming the funnel cloud.

Once the vortex reaches the ground, it starts sucking up dirt and debris which completes the column from the ground up. The vortex, from the base of the funnel cloud downward, is invisible until it reaches the ground and starts sucking up debris.

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Thank you for your excellent comments and your videos.

However, if the "electrical universe" element is NOW
included in the formation of weather--such as this new
theory--then many of these "THIS IS HOW YOUR WORLD WORKS"
VIDEOS are going to have to be RE-FILMED!

I don't wish to debate with you what parts of meteorology
are AT RISK for a new paradigm to set up--because I am
NOT educated in this science. However, I DO KNOW that if
Suspicious Observers (Ben Davidson)--a leading edge
scientist--is EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW THEORY...then all
the old videos are going to need to be revised.

There's really no debate here!

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Re: Blow your mind! Tornadoes NOW believed to form from GROUND...UP!" Video
Seems strange, since we see them come down to the ground?
 Quoting: bigD111


It's hard to wrap your mind around, but it would explain
why it appears that the majority of these twisters hit
certain areas of the U.S.A....the ground in "Tornado Alley"
MUST BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED. (Lots of iron in the soils
or something even deeper below the surface?)

cheers
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


O's C,

I have said this (about the "electrical part") for YEARS, after noticing that many, most - really, tornadoes always - ALWAYS - seem to head in the direction of mobile homes and mobile home parks.

The METAL in them seems to attract tornadoes.

BTW - I was in a mobile home once, when a tornado came within just a quarter-mile from me. It was spooky! And then when it was the closest it came, there was a loud POP! Like "circuits" shorting out.....that was my first observation of such a phenomenon.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B



And yes, the "magnetics of tornadoes" seems to always
come up in any reports of the damage--like NAILS being
pulled out of buildings and other metals behaving strangely
during the storms. I've also noticed, as you say, that
it's almost like they make a BEE-LINE for trailer parks.
That could be the electrical connection in sone way as
well--it's too early in the theory to really comment on
that, however.

As I mentioned in the post above...NEW IDEAS about what
all this "electrical component discovery in tornadoes"
will mean for meteorology (and the other sciences which
spin-off FROM THEM AS WELL)...will probably need to be
hashed out in the years ahead. At least this is getting
some SERIOUS STUDY in 2018...whereas ANYTHING that was
even alittle "off the mainstream path" was always
ridiculed and vilified.

If you don't think that is true...just take the historical
case of Immanuel Velikovsky in his terrible treatment by
mainstream science in the 50's and 60's. Now his stuff
is well accepted by many who called him a "quack."

Let's keep an open mind on this and see what they find.

Since I bring up Velikovsky as a good example of how
"new theories" have been received in the past--and this
includes "The Electric Universe Theory"--Look at these
2 excellent videos...They opened many eyes!


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1 hour duration. The outrageous story of Immanuel Velikovsky
Excellent presentation from the BBC on the "rogue scientist's
theories" and how mainstream science handled "NEW THEORIES."


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Theories that "outraged" mainstream science in the 50's and 60's.
Approximately 1 hour duration.


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Re: Blow your mind! Tornadoes NOW believed to form from GROUND...UP!" Video
They always form on the ground first, usually from forward flank updrafts and cold air. I'm glad to see scientists finally catching on.
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That has been my theory for awhile now. I guess if I was betting my life on it I wouldn't be so sure, but tornado genesis is a complex mechanism so I'm perfectly fine saying I don't have all the answers. Have you seen Leigh Orf's work? He's running a super computer on super cells trying to figure out why some storms generate F4-F5 tornadoes and others don't.

Here is a video he did with a storm chaser named Pecos Hank.

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If a tornado formed from the ground up there would be debris near the surface before a funnel cloud would form.

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There is a small amount of debris, but it's from the updrafts. Once the tornado forms it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.
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It's important to understand that a tornado is formed by the updraft of a storm cell, meaning that air is being pulled up from ground level into the supercell on the back side of the storm. When this updraft begins to rotate, it starts to lower towards the ground, initially forming a wall cloud. If it continues to grow, it will develop a funnel and then a tornado.

Quite often you will see a funnel that does not look like it is in contact with the ground, but a debris cloud directly underneath the funnel shows that it really is. You will see this exact phenomenon in the tornado videos I posted from Central Illinois two weeks ago.

So from the aspect of the fact that a tornado (and a hurricane, technically) is formed from rotating air that is moving from the surface up into the storm, you could say that tornadoes form from the ground up. Sort of.

However, the conditions necessary for a storm to spawn a tornado have to be just right at multiple altitudes, not just at ground level. Therefore, in my opinion, it is too simplistic an explanation to say that tornadoes form from the ground up. It's more complicated than that.

And that's just talking about the classic tornadic supercell. Tornadoes that form from squall line storms require completely different dynamics. A majority of Indiana's tornadoes occur from squall line storm systems instead of supercells, so we took an advanced spotting class from the weather service dealing with just that kind of storm.
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They always form on the ground first, usually from forward flank updrafts and cold air. I'm glad to see scientists finally catching on.
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That has been my theory for awhile now. I guess if I was betting my life on it I wouldn't be so sure, but tornado genesis is a complex mechanism so I'm perfectly fine saying I don't have all the answers. Have you seen Leigh Orf's work? He's running a super computer on super cells trying to figure out why some storms generate F4-F5 tornadoes and others don't.

Here is a video he did with a storm chaser named Pecos Hank.


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Dang...Dang...Dang...

I wish that S.O. would provide more background on the
new theory because it really has captured my imagination.
Believe it or not...My dad was obsessed with tornadoes.
We lived in the mid-west--prone areas for tornadoes--and
he'd get the whole family up in the middle of the night
to CHASE tornadoes (before it was cool.) It used to
terrify me to death! He'd be really intrigued by this
news about Tornadoes forming from the ground up via
"electric plasma connections."

I will look at the video and let you know! Thanks!

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