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Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BrancoX Quoting: clock You are looking at this from the wrong angle. WHO ASKED FOR A DEAL? Nobody did, Theresa May wanted one, and she's kicked the can down the road for 2 1/2 yrs now. The only hick-up put in on purpose by the EU is the backstop. We, the UK has had an electronic border with Northern Ireland for the past 20 yrs, it was acceptable then why isn't it now? It isn't because the EU know they have us by the b*lls. Pretty much this in a nut shell Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
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Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BrancoX Quoting: clock You are looking at this from the wrong angle. WHO ASKED FOR A DEAL? Nobody did, Theresa May wanted one, and she's kicked the can down the road for 2 1/2 yrs now. The only hick-up put in on purpose by the EU is the backstop. We, the UK has had an electronic border with Northern Ireland for the past 20 yrs, it was acceptable then why isn't it now? It isn't because the EU know they have us by the b*lls. Pretty much this in a nut shell I like my ancestral Brits words better, but that's only natural. |
Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like the Italians words. I'm not sure if they're entirely true but he's predecessors being almost the foundation of the Western World give me reason to pause and ponder. Quoting: Xenojunk More Italians should lift to the occasion, more often. I understand his viewI don't agree with it fully but it's a fair angle, however right now its as much about future governance as it is about Brexit itself, this where it's getting cloudy because the politicians are thinking of the party and not the people (nothing new) Labour are playing tactically knowing May right now would win a general election. Last Edited by The Real Mr Anderson Fella on 12/18/2018 04:43 AM Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77206912 Italy 12/18/2018 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BrancoX Quoting: clock You are looking at this from the wrong angle. WHO ASKED FOR A DEAL? Nobody did, Theresa May wanted one, and she's kicked the can down the road for 2 1/2 yrs now. The only hick-up put in on purpose by the EU is the backstop. We, the UK have had an electronic border with Northern Ireland for the past 20 yrs, it was acceptable then why isn't it now? It isn't because the EU know they have us by the b*lls. It is because we have the EU by the balls (the globalists). Without a deal we would be good. But it would encourage future exits from the EU. That is the last thing globalists want to see. We had to try for a deal, for the sake of trade, and to show we would play by the rules. Any PM would have tried that route first and after 2.5 years we still have nothing. This is why we are now ready for no deal. We played by the rules, they were arseholes. We signed article 50 and did what we signed up to do. Now we go for no deal as the EU will not give us a good one. As for the Irish border, I totally agree, as do most Brexiteers. Not sure what your point is there. I pretty much agree with everything you just said. BUT, if they get rid of her now, they will try a second referendum, they are really pushing for it in the media and across other partys at the moment. |
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Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like the Italians words. I'm not sure if they're entirely true but he's predecessors being almost the foundation of the Western World give me reason to pause and ponder. Quoting: Xenojunk More Italians should lift to the occasion, more often. Im British. Just in Italy at the moment. Oh what a shame. I finally thought I found an Italian that was.... engaged and relevant and could speak English. Are there any over there that can and are? Tell them we need more imput from them. They almost have an obligation to do so. their shitty old buildings and past glories are not enough to maintain respect in this modern era. |
clock User ID: 74739351 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BrancoX The BACKSTOP keeps the UK tied to the EU, it means they still control us. And what I mean by no deal is we revert to WTO, the very same deal we have with the USA and Canada. Last Edited by clock on 12/18/2018 05:01 AM none |
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The Gent User ID: 77104401 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Xenojunk Not really. If your friends want to manipulate you with almost trade sanctions, it's better to find out now over later when you're right deep in the situation. That's why the vote is needed sooner rather than later, we are literally months away, not even half a year from Brexit, yet with this deal we would still be deeply tied into EU with no say, what worse is that it was her idea, a remainer in charge of the negotiations and framework of Brexit is always going to be a dangerous thing to allow, by walking out as she did in the video shows how she really feels about the matter. I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. Yep, more pressure on the PM, I wonder how much more pressure can she take? We all have our breaking points. |
Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Stand Sure That's why the vote is needed sooner rather than later, we are literally months away, not even half a year from Brexit, yet with this deal we would still be deeply tied into EU with no say, what worse is that it was her idea, a remainer in charge of the negotiations and framework of Brexit is always going to be a dangerous thing to allow, by walking out as she did in the video shows how she really feels about the matter. I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. Yep, more pressure on the PM, I wonder how much more pressure can she take? We all have our breaking points. It's a tactical game now on Labour's part, it is in a sense a war within cabinet, and we are the collateral. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
clock User ID: 74739351 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BrancoX I agree with you over Labour going for a second referendum, but the poster StandSure has already pointed out the implications of that, the point we have to secure is the BACKSTOP, our hands are tied there, if we don't sort that out, doesn't matter if we revert to WTO, the EU will insist on a hard border, therefore a possibility the troubles could return to Northern Ireland. Why do you think the EU are sticking to this point? none |
The Gent User ID: 77104401 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: curry nosher I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. Yep, more pressure on the PM, I wonder how much more pressure can she take? We all have our breaking points. It's a tactical game now on Labour's part, it is in a sense a war within cabinet, and we are the collateral. Yes is all ramping up now, god only knows where it will end, You are right my friend, it all tactic's and we are just cannon fodder! |
Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Xenojunk Not really. If your friends want to manipulate you with almost trade sanctions, it's better to find out now over later when you're right deep in the situation. That's why the vote is needed sooner rather than later, we are literally months away, not even half a year from Brexit, yet with this deal we would still be deeply tied into EU with no say, what worse is that it was her idea, a remainer in charge of the negotiations and framework of Brexit is always going to be a dangerous thing to allow, by walking out as she did in the video shows how she really feels about the matter. I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. I missed that last line last time around and that's quite interesting because back then the populace would not have had so many distractions as they do now. And that's an interesting part. The politicians have their game above us and think we're so distracted and entertained nowadays so as not to notice or care. This modern decadence is a dangerous hobby to take up as the populace. It's in the annoyance factor on my side of the globe and now I see on your side too. I'm glad they're running out of movie ideas and new entertainment. I'm getting bored and so are a lot of other people. Attention will go back to where it should. |
deltaforce User ID: 1930819 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though I feel our government has defrauded the public in a very similar way the Ukraine defrauded they're people and frankly should be tried for high treason. corbyn is a through and through hard-line national communist that will drag this country into hyper inflation, make world enemies at an alarming rate and enslave those that voted for him and steal our freedoms completely. Corbyn doesn't want to reunite with Europe, he wants to invade Europe and take it all for his own. Think very very carefully before you cast your ballot in the next election! Yet we stand idle - We shall never surrender! |
Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though I feel our government has defrauded the public in a very similar way the Ukraine defrauded they're people and frankly should be tried for high treason. Quoting: deltaforce corbyn is a through and through hard-line national communist that will drag this country into hyper inflation, make world enemies at an alarming rate and enslave those that voted for him and steal our freedoms completely. Corbyn doesn't want to reunite with Europe, he wants to invade Europe and take it all for his own. Think very very carefully before you cast your ballot in the next election! Just come trade with Australia. We can build - anything you want and you can fit your entire country in here dozens of times. Our Flag is still aligned to you - We could have a very bright future together with the right leaders. Europe itself could fit in this place. Then you have your other loyal small island outposts and USA will back you. You have a good hand. |
Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Stand Sure That's why the vote is needed sooner rather than later, we are literally months away, not even half a year from Brexit, yet with this deal we would still be deeply tied into EU with no say, what worse is that it was her idea, a remainer in charge of the negotiations and framework of Brexit is always going to be a dangerous thing to allow, by walking out as she did in the video shows how she really feels about the matter. I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. I missed that last line last time around and that's quite interesting because back then the populace would not have had so many distractions as they do now. And that's an interesting part. The politicians have their game above us and think we're so distracted and entertained nowadays so as not to notice or care. This modern decadence is a dangerous hobby to take up as the populace. It's in the annoyance factor on my side of the globe and now I see on your side too. I'm glad they're running out of movie ideas and new entertainment. I'm getting bored and so are a lot of other people. Attention will go back to where it should. There will be testing times ahead, thankfully a civil war is highly unlikely, but unrest is a possibility and this is where the civil war remark comes into it, when classes unite the politicians lose. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though I feel our government has defrauded the public in a very similar way the Ukraine defrauded they're people and frankly should be tried for high treason. Quoting: deltaforce corbyn is a through and through hard-line national communist that will drag this country into hyper inflation, make world enemies at an alarming rate and enslave those that voted for him and steal our freedoms completely. Corbyn doesn't want to reunite with Europe, he wants to invade Europe and take it all for his own. Think very very carefully before you cast your ballot in the next election! Corbyn is more of a socialist than a communist. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
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Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Sure said.... "There will be testing times ahead, thankfully a civil war is highly unlikely, but unrest is a possibility and this is where the civil war remark comes into it, when classes unite the politicians lose." Yeah well you never finished off the Scotts. You go rouge and it might be a funny reversal. They're still on your Island. (it was a wall of text for such a cheesy quip, hence the edit. lol) Last Edited by Xenojunk on 12/18/2018 05:49 AM |
Stand Sure (OP) User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Sure said.... "There will be testing times ahead, thankfully a civil war is highly unlikely, but unrest is a possibility and this is where the civil war remark comes into it, when classes unite the politicians lose." Yeah well you never finished off the Scotts. You go rouge and it might be a funny reversal. They're still on your Island. (it was a wall of text for such a cheesy quip, hence the edit. lol) Ironic that my last name is Anderson. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh gawd, the Irish have been getting upset too. Those Muslims have just found their way out there thanks to politicians. They'd definitely be a problem given time. You need to exit as soon as possible lest end up speaking even weirder than you do now. Last Edited by Xenojunk on 12/18/2018 05:56 AM |
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clock User ID: 74739351 United Kingdom 12/18/2018 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Southern Ireland is a member of the EU, therefore has to accept it's quota of migrants set by the EU. Last Edited by clock on 12/18/2018 06:01 AM none |
Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Southern Ireland is a member of the EU, therefore has to Quoting: clock accept it's quoter of migrants set by the EU. It's Ireland. Those pricks are only happy when they are. I'll bet they'll not be happy with 5 years with the UN. Especially if you Brexit. Pause for thought. You buggers still even talk differently. |
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Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's the only way to remain British. How will Britain maintain her colonies being a slave to Germany? You're out of your mind. Germany has no colonies. She's the one who will bow. Last Edited by Xenojunk on 12/18/2018 06:07 AM |
curry nosher User ID: 77211130 Nepal 12/18/2018 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Xenojunk Not really. If your friends want to manipulate you with almost trade sanctions, it's better to find out now over later when you're right deep in the situation. That's why the vote is needed sooner rather than later, we are literally months away, not even half a year from Brexit, yet with this deal we would still be deeply tied into EU with no say, what worse is that it was her idea, a remainer in charge of the negotiations and framework of Brexit is always going to be a dangerous thing to allow, by walking out as she did in the video shows how she really feels about the matter. I just caught the last 20 secs on tv and didn't get what had happened lol. So what does it mean and what happens next? My understanding is that the motion set forth is aimed at May rather than the government, the idea would be to force a vote on the Brexit deal this week rather than having to wait for 4 weeks, it doesn't go hard at the government itself but rather the individual in charge... He hairy bit is the fact that if a vote is refused, it makes Mays incompetence more profound and shows a lack of willingness to act democratically and professionally for the good of the country... There is however no obligation for the government to adhere to the motion and allow a vote this week, they've already said it's petty political antics... So although possible the motion isn't likely to be debated, not unless it's certain that May will be supported buy the majority including the DUP... If this had been 300 years ago this would have likely been the prelude to civil war. That's a great explanation, cheers bud Now on that bit in bold..... Well they made sure to unarm people (not that many were really) and they have done a good job of giving just enough wealth and luxuries to people to keep them in line lol. Now i cannot complain about that but it is interesting just how we have been engineered to not really want or be able to rise up despite our deep down gut feelings about the matter. Much like the MANY (perhaps majority) of people that KNOW immigration, as is, is wrong, yet will point blank refuse to admit it cos of racism or backlash etc - hence the "I am not racist BUT" line before anyone dares say anything these days (If they even dare that is lol) cos we all feel we need or have to .... ? Good thread Last Edited by curry nosher on 12/18/2018 06:09 AM |
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Xenojunk User ID: 76087551 Australia 12/18/2018 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's the only way to remain British. How will Britain maintain her colonies being a slave to Germany? You're out of your mind. Germany has no colonies. She's the one who will bow. The European Union shits on too many founding cultures to ever function. Even the Modern Chinese steal our ancestral excellence. They haven't done anything good since the compass. and firecrackers. Last Edited by Xenojunk on 12/18/2018 06:11 AM |