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Vostok Ice Core Samples PROVE there is Global Warming and IT'S NOT MANMADE | |
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| LTHN. User ID: 77103050  Canada12/18/2018 06:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karma pinning For factual information. Thanks for posting this info OP. "A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger." "He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77211179 United States12/18/2018 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Photon Belt heats the CORE which heats the MAGMA etc etc etc. More volcanism in the volcanos in particular the under ocean ones. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77214017 United States12/18/2018 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It might be old news for many but it's worth repeating as a PSA - The Vostok Ice Core samples are the proof that Global Warming crowd is simply trying to profit from a naturally occurring event. The data shows that the Carbon Dioxide is a bi-product of the Earths natural warming cycle - not the cause. Quoting: CandyManCan The fact of the matter is, while the world is focused on anthropogenic global warming, warming induced by humans, what could potentially be a more serious and real matter is that of the coming ice age as the cycle suggests. 420,000 years of data has proven to us that we are not going to see a constant warming of the planet and that we are near the very end of a warming cycle -yet we seem stuck in the idea that we are about to cease our existence due to global warming. At this point, the data should speak for itself and completely nullify any belief that global warming is induced by humans, and that CO2 is the cause. We see very clearly that CO2 lags the temperature increases and has done so many times. What is very important to take from this data is that the rise and fall of global temperatures and the rise and fall of CO2 emissions is a completely natural cycle that the planet has gone through on many occasions. Adding a carbon tax does nothing except syphon more much needed resources out of the population and into the hands of government. This is not a solution but instead a manipulation of people based on false ideas. Instead, given climate is a real issue, we must think about how we will adjust key aspects of our society like food and water availability or viable living areas based on the natural cycle occurring. Instead, we approach it from an inaccurate, economic view that is putting all the onus on PEOPLE. We need to solve these issues intelligently and from a very real preparedness point of view. This is something we are not talking about as we simply blame humans for the cause in a political agenda. [link to www.collective-evolution.com (secure)] :awesomethread: |
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| Sciencefan User ID: 76722716 United States12/18/2018 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It might be old news for many but it's worth repeating as a PSA - The Vostok Ice Core samples are the proof that Global Warming crowd is simply trying to profit from a naturally occurring event. The data shows that the Carbon Dioxide is a bi-product of the Earths natural warming cycle - not the cause. Quoting: CandyManCan The fact of the matter is, while the world is focused on anthropogenic global warming, warming induced by humans, what could potentially be a more serious and real matter is that of the coming ice age as the cycle suggests. 420,000 years of data has proven to us that we are not going to see a constant warming of the planet and that we are near the very end of a warming cycle -yet we seem stuck in the idea that we are about to cease our existence due to global warming. At this point, the data should speak for itself and completely nullify any belief that global warming is induced by humans, and that CO2 is the cause. We see very clearly that CO2 lags the temperature increases and has done so many times. What is very important to take from this data is that the rise and fall of global temperatures and the rise and fall of CO2 emissions is a completely natural cycle that the planet has gone through on many occasions. Adding a carbon tax does nothing except syphon more much needed resources out of the population and into the hands of government. This is not a solution but instead a manipulation of people based on false ideas. Instead, given climate is a real issue, we must think about how we will adjust key aspects of our society like food and water availability or viable living areas based on the natural cycle occurring. Instead, we approach it from an inaccurate, economic view that is putting all the onus on PEOPLE. We need to solve these issues intelligently and from a very real preparedness point of view. This is something we are not talking about as we simply blame humans for the cause in a political agenda. [link to www.collective-evolution.com (secure)] My three cents. Nobody on either side of the debate has science on their side. Let me explain. Science is about taking a limited set of known variables, creating predictions and creating an experiment that is isolated from other variables and either proves or disproves the predictions. Even when proper conditions are present, it is not assumed that a correct prediction reveals a scientific truth. In such a case, many experiments may be needed. Even then it's not a scientific truth, in so far as what the basis of the prediction is. The only truth is in the reliability of predictability. If this is understood, it can be seen that it is not possible with todays technology to "prove" CO2 increases OR decreases temperature in such a complex system as Earth, NOR is it possible to show a reliability of predictability... after all, if we're suggesting what the temperature will be 100 years from now based on CO2 projections over time, and we need to run the test many many times to establish predictability, it will take thousands of years before we can make an educated guess. You can't model climate in vitro. If this is understood, let's consider the ice cores. It's circumstantial evidence because CO2 sequestration takes place over time. The CO2 levels could be the result of prior warming. IOW, even if CO2 increases stopped when the temperature peaked (not necessarily true), that gas may continue to be deposited at faster rates for some time in the future, I.E. as temps get colder CO2 sequestration increases until atmospheric level are depleted sufficiently. How do I know this? I don't. There's no experiment to see exactly how CO2 will settle in ice over thousands of years as global temperatures change except to run thousand year long experiments. Then you could take real time readings and compare them thousands of years later to see how accurate the ice core is. There are all kinds of other "proofs" on both the warmers and deniers side that are the same. Every argument that purports to show how AGW is true or false ultimately relies on opinion and belief. The Earth is getting warmer. Whether humans have something to do with it is not known. I realize this non-political POV doesn't offer much to the debate, but for me it allows "what if" type thinking without resorting to fear based responses. It would be good to develop CO2 free energy methods. It would be bad to tax the masses for their energy use. I won't go into details on that but I will say one last thing. Want proof the global warming crowd is simply trying to profit? The fact that they say the "science is settled" is all the proof you need. The fact that they offer their opinions and beliefs as FACT is proof they are lying. Period. Sciencefan |
| Digital mix guy User ID: 76961927 United States12/18/2018 09:15 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It might be old news for many but it's worth repeating as a PSA - The Vostok Ice Core samples are the proof that Global Warming crowd is simply trying to profit from a naturally occurring event. The data shows that the Carbon Dioxide is a bi-product of the Earths natural warming cycle - not the cause. Quoting: CandyManCan The fact of the matter is, while the world is focused on anthropogenic global warming, warming induced by humans, what could potentially be a more serious and real matter is that of the coming ice age as the cycle suggests. 420,000 years of data has proven to us that we are not going to see a constant warming of the planet and that we are near the very end of a warming cycle -yet we seem stuck in the idea that we are about to cease our existence due to global warming. At this point, the data should speak for itself and completely nullify any belief that global warming is induced by humans, and that CO2 is the cause. We see very clearly that CO2 lags the temperature increases and has done so many times. What is very important to take from this data is that the rise and fall of global temperatures and the rise and fall of CO2 emissions is a completely natural cycle that the planet has gone through on many occasions. Adding a carbon tax does nothing except syphon more much needed resources out of the population and into the hands of government. This is not a solution but instead a manipulation of people based on false ideas. Instead, given climate is a real issue, we must think about how we will adjust key aspects of our society like food and water availability or viable living areas based on the natural cycle occurring. Instead, we approach it from an inaccurate, economic view that is putting all the onus on PEOPLE. We need to solve these issues intelligently and from a very real preparedness point of view. This is something we are not talking about as we simply blame humans for the cause in a political agenda. [link to www.collective-evolution.com (secure)] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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| 1guynAz User ID: 76859737 United States12/18/2018 11:33 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will only make THEM look bad. See, you're missing the point of some of our government. They need the lies to keep power.  Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
| Frumpelstiltskin User ID: 77177702 United States12/18/2018 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obvious to anyone with a brain who has looked at the data. Unfortunately, the general population is lacking in brains and hates the truth with a passion. This planet is insane. It's literally Groundhog Day. Tell the truth, get crucified. Over and over and over, ad infinitum. --'-,{@ |
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| Zalinsky User ID: 77215364 United States12/19/2018 05:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't go into details on that but I will say one last thing. Want proof the global warming crowd is simply trying to profit? The fact that they say the "science is settled" is all the proof you need. The fact that they offer their opinions and beliefs as FACT is proof they are lying. Period. Quoting: Sciencefan This is all you need to know about AGW. |
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| LTHN. User ID: 77103050 Canada12/19/2018 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't go into details on that but I will say one last thing. Want proof the global warming crowd is simply trying to profit? The fact that they say the "science is settled" is all the proof you need. The fact that they offer their opinions and beliefs as FACT is proof they are lying. Period. Quoting: Sciencefan This is all you need to know about AGW.  "A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger." "He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere." |
