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Good morning CKP!

How's your day so far? Got any exciting plans for the weekend/holidays?

Good to see you up and about.
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Good. Shopping all done.
Family coming on xmas eve to stay over.
Now I just relax.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


That's awesome. I'm not much of a Christmas person, so I avoid the whole "shopping" thing.

I do have a Christmas party this evening with friends. Also, the family is coming for the weekend so the next couple of days should be both joyful and triumphant.

Wishing you the best. And as always, if normal, supportive communication is too much for you, let me know. I have a whole slew of pejoratives I'm willing to unleash in you.

cheers
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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

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The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


You are a lying, lying, lying, lying, LYING COCKSUCKING PIG! Going weeks without weed has never sent me into cramps, convulsions, fevers, or any unpleasant physical symptom of any kind, you piece of filth whose mother should have died of cancer the day she conceived you in a truck stop men's room. You're slime.
 Quoting: TheEndBeautifulFriend


He gets around lying by saying he never said it. He just posts other people's unreviewed and uncorroborated results, especially those with an agenda.

The rest? Really not called for. I'm sure his mother is / was a nice lady, sad to see how he's turned out. Now don't lower yourself - it's unbecoming of an adult. You don't want to be like Fred the Op.
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Good morning gang. I hope this morning finds you all well.

Our resident masochist is at it again and I just wanted to make sure he sees we're all here for him.

Happy Festivus
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Cannabis as Addictive as Heroin

Cannabis can be highly addictive, cause mental health problems and lead to hard drug use, according to a new study by a British addiction specialist.

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The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert's devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless

A definitive 20-year study into the effects of long-term cannabis use has demolished the argument that the drug is safe.

Cannabis is highly addictive, causes mental health problems and opens the door to hard drugs, the study found.

Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.

'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.

'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'

Those who try to stop taking cannabis often suffer anxiety, insomnia, appetite disturbance and depression, he found. Even after treatment, less than half can stay off the drug for six months.


Professor Hall found:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby's birth weight


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jay
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


You are a lying, lying, lying, lying, LYING COCKSUCKING PIG! Going weeks without weed has never sent me into cramps, convulsions, fevers, or any unpleasant physical symptom of any kind, you piece of filth whose mother should have died of cancer the day she conceived you in a truck stop men's room. You're slime.
 Quoting: TheEndBeautifulFriend


He gets around lying by saying he never said it. He just posts other people's unreviewed and uncorroborated results, especially those with an agenda.

The rest? Really not called for. I'm sure his mother is / was a nice lady, sad to see how he's turned out. Now don't lower yourself - it's unbecoming of an adult. You don't want to be like Fred the Op.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Good morning gang. I hope this morning finds you all well.

Our resident masochist is at it again and I just wanted to make sure he sees we're all here for him.

Happy Festivus
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Morning! Good to see you :)
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Anyone with a boson of experience with cannabis, knows this is categorically 100% false.

What's with all the threads like this lately. This is not opinion, it's a blatant lie.

FAKE NEWS ALL THE WAY!!

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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
 Quoting: Hieronymus Howard


We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."

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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
 Quoting: Hieronymus Howard


We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

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Erectile dysfunction is a terrible side effect of those drugs, tsk tsk.
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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
 Quoting: Hieronymus Howard


We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


*you're

Must be the drugs
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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
 Quoting: Hieronymus Howard


We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


*you're

Must be the drugs
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Yeah I know. But I cant be arsed with apostrophes with my fat arthritic fingers.
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Weed is habit forming only, some really like it and thus become dependent on it.

It is not addictive.

Addictions are extremely difficult to break with and the body suffers extreme with drawl symptoms.
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We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


*you're

Must be the drugs
 Quoting: Angelique89


Yeah I know. But I cant be arsed with apostrophes with my fat arthritic fingers.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Francis here may be a lot of things, but "perfect" and "normal" sure don't fit in there.

And now he talks about fat fingers... yet always makes a point that he's NOT fat, only 11 stone. So, scrawny druggie body, but fat fingers? Yet more inconsistency.

Can't keep ANY of the stories straight, can he? And as for the apostrophe thing... it's sheer laziness, another hallmark of a drug dependent mind AND body.
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He won't deny the erectile dysfunction, so I must assume it's accurate lol
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Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


*you're

Must be the drugs
 Quoting: Angelique89


Yeah I know. But I cant be arsed with apostrophes with my fat arthritic fingers.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Francis here may be a lot of things, but "perfect" and "normal" sure don't fit in there.

And now he talks about fat fingers... yet always makes a point that he's NOT fat, only 11 stone. So, scrawny druggie body, but fat fingers? Yet more inconsistency.

Can't keep ANY of the stories straight, can he? And as for the apostrophe thing... it's sheer laziness, another hallmark of a drug dependent mind AND body.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I can still read your posts you know and will reply when you blatantly lie to the GLP audience. As YOU well know I have psoriatic arthritis, which causes my FINGERS to swell up like sausages. I have to take ibuprofen, prednisolone steroids and methotrexate for this condition.

I think I might just pay the 10bux for a GLP account so I can just ban you from my threads for blatantly lying again.

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He won't deny the erectile dysfunction, so I must assume it's accurate lol
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laugh

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This may be the stupidest thing I've seen on this site. No matter your thoughts on marijuana it's absolutely asinine to say it is anything like opiates like heroin.

I can't imagine anyone with any sort of common sense at all trying to claim these things. Honestly if you are against marijuana this is only going to weaken your argument and take away any credibility you may have had when trying to convince someone of your point of view.
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He won't deny the erectile dysfunction, so I must assume it's accurate lol
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Nothing wrong with my plumbing for the 2ND TIME in this thread, stop repeating your self like a dementia patient you silly bint!
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FAKE NEWS
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OP?


As I ponder the 19 OZ of pot, 27 grams of shatter and the big ball of nelson Bubble Hash...

Is my addiction pushing me out to have a hoot? I am really thinking of burning a real big thumber here.


I may not be able to wait till after dinner.


Am I addicted to the sticky?
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I can’t speak for others, but I have experienced withdrawal every time I quit smoking weed. No matter whether I only smoked regularly for a week or a year, withdrawal went like this: a single day of mild uneasiness, boredom, lethargy, and irritability.

That’s it, nothing more.

There is a bit of mental resistance to quitting every time, but it’s infinitely easier than quitting nicotine.

Why is a medhead like yourself, OP, so critical of marijuana? Any one of the pills in your little plastic box, the one with individual compartments for each day of the week, is probably worse for you than marijuana.

I do not believe marijuana is the panacea so many people think it is, but your crusade is obsessive and unhealthy.
 Quoting: Hieronymus Howard


We're fairly convinced it's because that's all Francis (yes, I'm changing it to Francis. As in "lighten up Francis") has left. A lifetime of opiates has left him bereft of normal emotional skills so he lashes out in order to feel something. Kind of like a neglected child who acts out for attention.

"Talk good about me, talk bad about me, I don't care. Just talk about me."
 Quoting: Fucklestiltskin


Well your wrong Sigmund.

I am a perfectly normal human being. Never been depressed nor do I get over-excited about anything.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Except marijuana use and its affects.
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He won't deny the erectile dysfunction, so I must assume it's accurate lol
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Nothing wrong with my plumbing for the 2ND TIME in this thread, stop repeating your self like a dementia patient you silly bint!
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


OP repeats the same tired drivel day in and day out, but yet gets nasty to my friend here because he assumes that she MAY have been paying attention to anything he said?

Sheesh, drugs will really do you in! Glad I'm not on any of the nasty shit OP is, that's gotta be hard, being all messed up on that and incoherent most of the time.

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Dont post so-called "music" from leftie liberal bints like Lilly cunt in my threads please.

She is a pro refugee, Muslim sperm guzzler.
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Dont post so-called "music" from leftie liberal bints like Lilly cunt in my threads please.

She is a pro refugee, Muslim sperm guzzler.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Pretty sure that people can post whatever they want. In fact, OP has me ignored, but I STILL post... for the benefit of others, NOT for OP.

laugh

Although I say that, and yet it magically happens to see some of my words, even not reposted ones... maybe it's only PRETENDING.

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Dont post so-called "music" from leftie liberal bints like Lilly cunt in my threads please.

She is a pro refugee, Muslim sperm guzzler.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Man, you seem like a real piece of shit.
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 Quoting: MogwaiHunter


Dont post so-called "music" from leftie liberal bints like Lilly cunt in my threads please.

She is a pro refugee, Muslim sperm guzzler.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Man, you seem like a real piece of shit.
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Yeah, he's a lying, racist druggie... par for the course. And please, DO repost this one so that the twatwaffle DOES see my LOVING regard.

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He won't deny the erectile dysfunction, so I must assume it's accurate lol
 Quoting: Angelique89


Nothing wrong with my plumbing for the 2ND TIME in this thread, stop repeating your self like a dementia patient you silly bint!
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


OP repeats the same tired drivel day in and day out, but yet gets nasty to my friend here because he assumes that she MAY have been paying attention to anything he said?

Sheesh, drugs will really do you in! Glad I'm not on any of the nasty shit OP is, that's gotta be hard, being all messed up on that and incoherent most of the time.

penguin
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I know, right? rockon
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 Quoting: MogwaiHunter


Dont post so-called "music" from leftie liberal bints like Lilly cunt in my threads please.

She is a pro refugee, Muslim sperm guzzler.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Man, you seem like a real piece of shit.
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Go cry a river somewhere else snowflake.
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I'd like to know why you attack cannabis with such a passion. There has to be a trigger that led you down this road. Did your gay boyfriend jump off a building after smoking a blunt? Did the weed smokers shun you like the plague when asking them for a hit? What is it man?
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I'd like to know why you attack cannabis with such a passion. There has to be a trigger that led you down this road. Did your gay boyfriend jump off a building after smoking a blunt? Did the weed smokers shun you like the plague when asking them for a hit? What is it man?
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bot
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Really?

Explain to me how I am a bot?

I am all ears!
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