Economic collapse just getting started!

Really ... Look at the chsrt, then look at historic collapses...

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forget the past its the end you need to worry about.

Start market is crashing for two reason. One is interest rate increases. The second is that Democrats took house and have agenda to increase taxes and regulations. They also want open border and to impeach Trump. In November when looked like they were going to win I made sure my 401k money is mostly in cash and bonds.
If republicans would keep house stock market would be over 30000 and we have s trade deal with China

Also, whether we like it or not, China's economy is very close to overtaking ours.

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What a difference two decades makes. In 1997, China’s gross domestic product was about 11 percent of the U.S's. By 2017, it was up to 63 percent:

But this overstates the difference in living standards between the two countries, since prices are generally lower in China. In purchasing-power-parity terms, China’s economy became the world’s largest in about 2013:

So which country’s economy is really bigger? The truth probably lies somewhere between these two figures. If China were to abolish its capital controls and open its currency to foreign speculation, there’s a good chance the yuan would rise in value, bringing China’s GDP at market-exchange rates closer to its PPP numbers. In other words, the economies of China and the U.S. are now fairly evenly matched in size. But with four times the U.S. population, China has more room to grow. And China is already the world’s largest manufacturer and biggest exporter.

In other words, if it’s not already the world’s dominant economic power, China soon will be. But what does this mean? What are the implications of Chinese economic dominance, for the world and for U.S. policy?

The biggest effect will be that China becomes the leading beneficiary of what economists call agglomeration effects. Agglomeration refers to the tendency of businesses to cluster together in the same region, because one company’s workers are another’s customers. As economists Paul Krugman, Masahisa Fujita and Anthony Venables showed two decades ago, agglomeration can bring big benefits to whatever region has the densest concentration of economic activity.

Increasingly, that region is China rather than the U.S. China is where the biggest markets are, so that’s where multinational companies want to build their factories and offices. That in turn leads to whole supply chains migrating to China, as companies try to locate near their upstream suppliers and downstream customers. This process is accelerated by another phenomenon known as clustering effects — the collection of a huge repository of manufacturing talent and know-how in Chinese cities. China’s general hostility to foreign companies will slow this process, but the gravitational pull of the world’s biggest economy will be hard to resist.

This also means that President Donald Trump will be fighting an uphill battle in his trade war against China. To push a company to move out of China, U.S. tariffs would have to be very high, since they will have to overcome not just labor-cost differences between the two countries but the pull of the Chinese market, the concentration of manufacturing know-how, and the existence of stable supply chains. Many companies say they’re ready to pull out, but the reality may be very different — for example, last year Ford Motor Co. declared that it would build its next-generation car in China.

Another result of China’s new economic heft is that the web of institutions that the U.S. built to regulate the global economy after World War II will be increasingly irrelevant and toothless. The World Bank, for example, which lends money to poor countries, is already finding itself sidelined as Chinese loans pour into developing nations.

One of the most important U.S.-led economic institutions is the dollar itself. For decades, the dollar has functioned as the world’s reserve currency — nations around the world hold their foreign exchange stockpiles in dollars, many issue dollar-denominated debt, and commodities such as oil are often priced in dollars. Some believe this has put strains on the U.S. economy, because the increasing demand for dollars tends to make the currency more expensive, contributing to persistent U.S. trade deficits.

Which = War, first trade wars and currency wars, then the real deal.

The U.S. does not want to lose its status, and China is he'll bent on making that happen.

A Chinese led world does not seem like where I'd like to be...

You mean the Ponzi scheme?

Dumpster diving is the new career choice.

I think you are collapsing.

GOV is totally broke don’t believe these lies. China and Japan are trashing US Treasury like no tomorrow. They just keep spending we are over $100 trillion in debt. The brokest country in all of the world. We have zero gI paint my fingernailsl the assets. That is all they can do. The White House was recently appraised for $500 million. They are going to have to sell it soon a long with Jets and everything else.

The Dow is at 22400, the same as it was in September 2017. Was the economy in collapse then? Two years ago this month it was at 19800. Was the economy in collapse then?

Wait until open on Monday 😂

the economy will rebound

The Dow is at 22400, the same as it was in September 2017. Was the economy in collapse then? Two years ago this month it was at 19800. Was the economy in collapse then?

Look at the historical charts,you'll see the pattern...keep living in a fantasy world if you may, but things, they are a'changing

I don't want it to be, but typically, preceding downturns, you see a sharp drop, year or so before, thenrebound , then what we have now.

I would wait until the economy hits rock bottom before I can move my 401k into bonds.

This is a reset that will be felt around the world. Its not a collapse it is an unleashing!

After NINE bleeping years of ZIRP, the FED HAS to raise rates as accounts, like PENSIONS, that have a notable Bond Laddering exposure were sacrificed.

The Fed is attempting to reverse this, which is too late, so it's now an economic confidence play, which will fail by 2024 (my guess is 2019; I knew 2007 was coming and got out of the markets 9 months before the carsh), because Healthcare related categories will eclipse FIFTY Percent of Tax Receipts by then and 100% by 2032 (#thatcanthappen)

A talking head on tv told me that company stocks have a 'real' calculable price and they are just about there so they can't go down much more.

Time to panic.

Eberything has alwes breen a lie.

The 'economy' and the stock market are two different things. Trust me.

Told yaz. Didnt i?? Deep states collapsn economy n will blame trump

2019 = 1929
Time is up, reset is coming

this:

Thread: An Inverted Yield Curve, a Reliable Predictor of Recessions, Has the Stock Market Spooked

The business cycle used to be 30 years. Thanks to tech and peoples obsessions, time is a different beast these days. They are able to cull the herd more often due to the environment they have created. Not to mention the need to rush the preps for whats coming.