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Then we are agreed, and we can go back to the earth getting destroyed by a nova every 12,000 years, somehow.

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Suggest you read this when DRUNK as it will scare
the holy living ba-Jesus outta ya!

New Years Eve watching for me (health reasons I am
not even having one beer this year!)...So root beer
for me and THIS VIDEO.

It is an important video and all I can say is...
OMG...

This puts the LaViolette information INTO PERSPECTIVE
FOR ME...read "Earth Under Fire" by Dr. Paul LaViolette
then watch this video a couple of times.

It explains WHY WE HAVE NASA...THE CIA...WHAT THE MEANING
OF THE CODE "Q" FOR THIS SO-CALLED "INSIDER TWEETS" WE
HAVE BEEN SEEING (q175 is a designation the CIA uses
to classify published science books they don't want on
the self alongside MAINSTREAM MEDIA SCIENCE LIES. This
guy's book was classified Q-175 so it ended up in the
"woo-woo" section of the bookstores--under paranormal
science! what a rip!)....and MORE...

Thanks for this topic. I am feeling like A sponge
abosrbing all I can. Even taking notes! lol!
(Maybe I'll leave the notebook with the notes on this
video in some B&B so it can go viral on Youtube and get
some coverage!)

cheers
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I appreciate your enthusiasm for the subject! rose
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01/01/2019 02:59 AM

Nordic came from Lyra and my family.

**There Were Those Plejarans ... (Incorrectly Called "Nordic" Who Resided In "Lyra System" ... Those Mostly They Were Of/From The Pleiades !!

I completely disagree with what you're saying, especially the concept of humans as a virus

**From An "ET Perspective" ... "Humans" Are A Disease ... & Have Caused Much Hurt/Harm To The Living Planet Terra/Earth & All Life/Lifeforms On It !!

**The Living Planet Terra/Earth Is On "Life Support" ... "Propped Up" By ET Support ... Otherwise ... 3rd Density Life Would Not Be Able To Live On That World !!

**As To The Choice Of Removing The Disease ... Saving The Living Planet Terra/Earth ... This Staging Ground For Lessons/Teachings ... & Of Saving The Disease & Letting This Living Planet's Energies Continue To Dwindle, Of Not Being Able To Support 3rd Density Life ... WE/ET's Choose To Save The Living Planet !!

**Of The "Change" ... Uptick/Acceleration ... Of The High Energies Which Life & Lifeforms Are Being Exposed To From The "High Magnetic Source" ... From Solaris ... The Sun/Star In That Solar System ... Those Body Forms Are Not Designed To Withstand Such Energies, & Are Breaking Down/Malfunctioning, Dying !! ... The Energies Within Will ... Of One Way Or Another Be Forced To Leave Those Shells/Containers ... Either Before The Main Changes, During These, Or Afterword !!

**The Energies Of/Within Those Bodies Will Mostly Go To The Nearest "Transit Stations" To Self Evaluate Or Be Evaluated ... To Choose Of What Is Available Of Lessons/Teachings To Work On ... Or Will Be Directed ... On Where They Will Be Going Next !!

**Most Will Go Onto 4th Density, A Higher Vibratory Plane Of Existence ... Of Higher Energies ... & Therefore Will Be Animating Bodies That Are Designed To Withstand, Life, Work In These Forms !! ... They Will Of Course Be Extraterrestrial In Looks, Shapes, Styles !!

when there are some really negative beings in and around earth that are pretty insane.

**Of Beings That Are Extraterrestrial ... That Is ... Not Of Terra/Earth ... They Do Not Have Positive/Negative ... Which Is Of The Lessons Of Polarity Of 3rd Desntiy ... Of Opposites !! ... In Truth There Is No "Fracturization" As One Cannot Have Split The Whole, Without Being Part Of The Whole !!

Lack of love and compassion is insanity.

**What You Understand As "Lack Of Love" (Which Very Few Understand What That "Created Terrestrial Word" Entails, Of All It Meanings !!) ... Is That Simply Not All Beings, Especially ET Beings ... Express Such Things In The Same Way/Fashion !! ... It Is One Of Things You & All Those On Terra/Earth Will "Have To Get Used To" ... When Being Around Beings Not Of/From Terra/Earth ... Who See/Understand Things Differently ... Who Have Their & Their Peoples "Own Perspectives" On Things !!

I remember the exodus from Lyra,

**There Were Many Who Left, To Escape From The "Lyran Wars" To Go Elsewhere ... To Other Systems, To Other Worlds !! ... Of The Conduit's Connections ... Of These "Ancient Of Times" ... They Did Likewise ... Moreso Their Choice Of Being "Warriors" Was Not To Leave The "Scene Of Battle" ... As They Did Not Sherk From Battle, They "Enjoyed" Fighting ... But Simply They Wanted To Establish Their "Own Roots" ... Their Own Way Of Life ... Their Own "Culture" ... Separate From Others !!

don't remember the "Tiamat" one though it didn't have that name,

**WE (ETs) Remember Tiamat ... The Ancient Giant Water World That Resided In That Solar System ... In The Dawn/Very Beginnings When All The Newly Created Worlds/Spheres Were "Jostling Around" Attempting To Gain Their Place, Their "Foothold" ... Their "Established Pathway" In Orbit Around Solaris, The Sun/Star In That System ... Which It Too Was "New/Newly Created" ... Brought Into Existence !!

but know we were there, and do remember mars,

**The Correct Designation Of "Mars" Is Mazar ... & Yes WE/ETs Had Lived/Existed In "Mazarian Forms" ... Many Dying When The Asteroid/Giant Meteor Ripped Away The Mazaran Atmosphere Into Space !! ... In An Instant, There Was No Air To Breathe, & We Suffocated !! ... NOT A Pleasant Way To "Die" !!

and being taken off

**Of The "ET Rescue Squad", That Came For The Mazaran Survivors Who Remained Underground, Who Changed Their Lung Structures To Be Able To Breathe Carbon Dioxide & Other Underground Gasses ... They Were Brought To Terra/Earth, Their Lung Structures Altered To Be Able To Breathe The Gasses Of That Living World !! ... They Were The Ancestors Of The Hopi Native People !!

and the pole shift, ocean covering Earth,

**Of Such Shifting/Restructuring Of Land/Water Masses On Terra/Earth ... It Is Like This ... When All Elements Are In Force & Active !!

and a river of sorrow that flooded the entire solar system and all you could want to do is HEAL THAT RIVER.

**It Was Simply Of One Of "Pole Shifts" That Terra/Earth Has Endured ... That Has Happened There !!

Literally remember it, it was quite a shock not due to having those memories, past life/concurrent life really, not that....it was the time difference.

Between we have a programmed time, and that event occurred either 800 000 years ago, OR, because its not likely to be then, I felt it was actually millions and we were a past cycle, a different group.

**Of That One Singular Occurrence, It Was As It Is Said On Terra/Earth ... Long Ago !!

As for ETS, they do program the matrix, cookies that should be cleared from our browsers.

**You Do Not Know Of Such Things !! ... Better That You Leave This ... To Those That Do !!

I think keeping strong positive thoughts, helping those around you, and envisioning earth shielding is the job.

**WE (ETs) Do Not Think Nor Use "Positive/Negative" ... As They Are Simply Of The Whole, The Whole Thought !! ... Which Is Of 4th Density Being/Thinking & Beyond !! ... Positive/Negative Are Of Third Density ... Of The Lessons Of Polarity !!

But Nibiru is not coming close to us.

**It Already Is !!

When you talk about magnetics Fluffy came to mind and all those magnetic strips that signified NASA believing that our star may be passing through a supernova.

**Suffice To Say, WE (ETs) Know ... You Wish To "Demean" Of Things You Don't Know !! ... As Of N.A.S.A. The Invented/Created "Disinformation" Agency ... For The Purpose Of "Not Telling The Truth" To The Public About "Space Matters" ... This Is What They Do For A Living !!

Maybe that is what this talk of Nova is all about.

**No !!

You seem to have a real vested interest in doom, and not just any doom, extreme doom and end of all human life.

**Humanity Has Already Been "Cancelled" ... Those Body Forms/Units Being Defective, Both Physically & Psychologically ... Of Which These "Defects" Were Never Corrected ... Which Has Led To The "Problems" That Those Are Facing On The Living Planet Terra/Earth !!

**As To The Changes That Are To Happened ... That Have Already Happened And Are "Ancient History" In Our Ancient Of Archives ... This Has To Be ... To Ensure The Survival Of The Living Planet Terra/Earth !!

**Those Bodies/Forms Were Not Designed For The Higher Energies That Ones There Are Being Exposed To ... So However It Happens Of Those Bodies Malfunctioning/Dying, Being Killed, Before, During, After The Main Changes ... The Energies Will Have To Leave ... As Those Bodies Will No Longer Be Able To Provide "Life Support" ... A "Container" To Work & Work Through !!

Ets were here past, different groups.

**There Were Many Being Of Different Worlds Who "Visited" ... & Many Who Conducted Various "Experiments" On Terra/Earth In "Ancient Times" !!

During the ice age,

**Which Ice Age ?? ... There Were Many !!

villains who were escaping justice came and when human villages emerged not only wanted to be worshiped as gods, but tortured and dismembered and ate humans.

Some of them were hauled off and shoved somewhere else.

**There Were & Are Many "Stories" ... This Is One Of Them !! ... Which Does Not Expand On ... What Really Happened Then/Of Those "Times" !!

There have been alot of groups of BAD Wolves, including Annanuki.

**They Have No "Good/Bad" ... Which Again Is Of "Polarity/Polaristic Thought" ... The Lessons/Teaching Of 3rd Density !!

**Attempting To Understand Of ET Beings ... That Are Not Of 3rd Density Ways, Perspective, Thinkings ... Is Not To Know Them At All !!

I call them nuki's.

**Calling Them" Is Not Knowing Them !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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01/01/2019 02:59 AM

Nordic came from Lyra and my family.

**There Were Those Plejarans ... (Incorrectly Called "Nordic" Who Resided In "Lyra System" ... Those Mostly They Were Of/From The Pleiades !!

I completely disagree with what you're saying, especially the concept of humans as a virus

**From An "ET Per4spective" ... "Humans" Are A Disease ... & Have Caused Much Hurt/Harm To The Living Planet Terra/Earth & All Life/Lifeforms On It !!

**The Living Planet Terra/Earth Is On "Life Support" ... "Propped Up" By ET Support ... Otherwise ... 3rd Density Life Would Not Be Able To Live On That World !!

**As To The Choice Of Removing The Disease ... Saving The Living Planet Terra/Earth ... This Staging Ground For Lessons/Teachings ... & Of Saving The Disease & Letting This Living Planet's Energies Continue To Dwindle, Of Not Being Able To Support 3rd Density Life ... WE/ET's Choose To Save The Living Planet !!

**Of The "Change" ... Uptick/Acceleration ... Of The High Energies Which Life & Lifeforms Are Being Exposed To From The "High Magnetic Source" ... From Solaris ... The Sun/Star In That Solar System ... Those Body Forms Are Not Designed To Withstand Such Energies, & Are Breaking Down/Malfunctioning, Dying !! ... The Energies Within Will ... Of One Way Or Another Be Forced To Leave Those Shells/Containers ... Either Before The Main Changes, During These, Or Afterword !!

**The Energies Of/Within Those Bodies Will Mostly Go To The Nearest "Transit Stations" To Self Evaluate Or Be Evaluated ... To Choose Of What Is Available Of Lessons/Teachings To Work On ... Or Will Be Directed ... On Where They Will Be Going Next !!

**Most Will Go Onto 4th Density, A Higher Vibratory Plane Of Existence ... Of Higher Energies ... & Therefore Will Be Animating Bodies That Are Designed To Withstand, Life, Work In These Forms !! ... They Will Of Course Be Extraterrestrial In Looks, Shapes, Styles !!

when there are some really negative beings in and around earth that are pretty insane.

**Of Beings That Are Extraterrestrial ... That Is ... Not Of Terra/Earth ... They Do Not Have Positive/Negative ... Which Is Of The Lessons Of Polarity Of 3rd Desntiy ... Of Opposites !! ... In Truth There Is No "Fracturization" As One Cannot Have Split The Whole, Without Being Part Of The Whole !!

Lack of love and compassion is insanity.

**What You Understand As "Lack Of Love" (Which Very Few Understand What That "Created Terrestrial Word" Entails, Of All It Meanings !!) ... Is That Simply Not All Beings, Especially ET Beings ... Express Such Things In The Same Way/Fashion !! ... It Is One Of Things You & All Those On Terra/Earth Will "Have To Get Used To" ... When Being Around Beings Not Of/From Terra/Earth ... Who See/Understand Things Differently ... Who Have Their & Their Peoples "Own Perspectives" On Things !!

I remember the exodus from Lyra,

**There Were Many Who Left, To Escape From The "Lyran Wars" To Go Elsewhere ... To Other Systems, To Other Worlds !! ... Of The Conduit's Connections ... Of These "Ancient Of Times" ... They Did Likewise ... Moreso Their Choice Of Being "Warriors" Was Not To Leave The "Scene Of Battle" ... As They Did Not Sherk From Battle, They "Enjoyed" Fighting ... But Simply They Wanted To Establish Their "Own Roots" ... Their Own Way Of Life ... Their Own "Culture" ... Separate From Others !!

don't remember the "Tiamat" one though it didn't have that name,

**WE (ETs) Remember Tiamat ... The Ancient Giant Water World That Resided In That Solar System ... In The Dawn/Very Beginnings When All The Newly Created Worlds/Spheres Were "Jostling Around" Attempting To Gain Their Place, Their "Foothold" ... Their "Established Pathway" In Orbit Around Solaris, The Sun/Star In That System ... Which It Too Was "New/Newly Created" ... Brought Into Existence !!

but know we were there, and do remember mars,

**The Correct Designation Of "Mars" Is Mazar ... & Yes WE/ETs Had Lived/Existed In "Mazarian Forms" ... Many Dying When The Asteroid/Giant Meteor Ripped Away The Mazaran Atmosphere Into Space !! ... In An Instant, There Was No Air To Breathe, & We Suffocated !! ... NOT A Pleasant Way To "Die" !!

and being taken off

**Of The "ET Rescue Squad", That Came For The Mazaran Survivors Who Remained Underground, Who Changed Their Lung Structures To Be Able To Breathe Carbon Dioxide & Other Underground Gasses ... They Were Brought To Terra/Earth, Their Lung Structures Altered To Be Able To Breathe The Gasses Of That Living World !! ... They Were The Ancestors Of The Hopi Native People !!

and the pole shift, ocean covering Earth,

**Of Such Shifting/Restructuring Of Land/Water Masses On Terra/Earth ... It Is Like This ... When All Elements Are In Force & Active !!

and a river of sorrow that flooded the entire solar system and all you could want to do is HEAL THAT RIVER.

**It Was Simply Of One Of "Pole Shifts" That Terra/Earth Has Endured ... That Has Happened There !!

Literally remember it, it was quite a shock not due to having those memories, past life/concurrent life really, not that....it was the time difference.

Between we have a programmed time, and that event occurred either 800 000 years ago, OR, because its not likely to be then, I felt it was actually millions and we were a past cycle, a different group.

**Of That One Singular Occurrence, It Was As It Is Said On Terra/Earth ... Long Ago !!

As for ETS, they do program the matrix, cookies that should be cleared from our browsers.

**You Do Not Know Of Such Things !! ... Better That You Leave This ... To Those That Do !!

I think keeping strong positive thoughts, helping those around you, and envisioning earth shielding is the job.

**WE (ETs) Do Not Think Nor Use "Positive/Negative" ... As They Are Simply Of The Whole, The Whole Thought !! ... Which Is Of 4th Density Being/Thinking & Beyond !! ... Positive/Negative Are Of Third Density ... Of The Lessons Of Polarity !!

But Nibiru is not coming close to us.

**It Already Is !!

When you talk about magnetics Fluffy came to mind and all those magnetic strips that signified NASA believing that our star may be passing through a supernova.

**Suffice To Say, WE (ETs) Know ... You Wish To "Demean" Of Things You Don't Know !! ... As Of N.A.S.A. The Invented/Created "Disinformation" Agency ... For The Purpose Of "Not Telling The Truth" To The Public About "Space Matters" ... This Is What They Do For A Living !!

Maybe that is what this talk of Nova is all about.

**No !!

You seem to have a real vested interest in doom, and not just any doom, extreme doom and end of all human life.

**Humanity Has Already Been "Cancelled" ... Those Body Forms/Units Being Defective, Both Physically & Psychologically ... Of Which These "Defects" Were Never Corrected ... Which Has Led To The "Problems" That Those Are Facing On The Living Planet Terra/Earth !!

**As To The Changes That Are To Happened ... That Have Already Happened And Are "Ancient History" In Our Ancient Of Archives ... This Has To Be ... To Ensure The Survival Of The Living Planet Terra/Earth !!

**Those Bodies/Forms Were Not Designed For The Higher Energies That Ones There Are Being Exposed To ... So However It Happens Of Those Bodies Malfunctioning/Dying, Being Killed, Before, During, After The Main Changes ... The Energies Will Have To Leave ... As Those Bodies Will No Longer Be Able To Provide "Life Support" ... A "Container" To Work & Work Through !!

Ets were here past, different groups.

**There Were Many Being Of Different Worlds Who "Visited" ... & Many Who Conducted Various "Experiments" On Terra/Earth In "Ancient Times" !!

During the ice age,

**Which Ice Age ?? ... There Were Many !!

villains who were escaping justice came and when human villages emerged not only wanted to be worshiped as gods, but tortured and dismembered and ate humans.

Some of them were hauled off and shoved somewhere else.

**There Were & Are Many "Stories" ... This Is One Of Them !! ... Which Does Not Expand On ... What Really Happened Then/Of Those "Times" !!

There have been alot of groups of BAD Wolves, including Annanuki.

**They Have No "Good/Bad" ... Which Again Is Of "Polarity/Polaristic Thought" ... The Lessons/Teaching Of 3rd Density !!

**Attempting To Understand Of ET Beings ... That Are Not Of 3rd Density Ways, Perspective, Thinkings ... Is Not To Know Them At All !!

I call them nuki's.

**Calling Them" Is Not Knowing Them !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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There is so much I can say, and you're wrong on so many things.

I don't want to make an issue of this.

Happy New Year instead. May you be blessed with health and positive experiences and relationships with kind people around you.

I know some of the agenda's on the other side.

There is never an end to the human form or race, here we're lower human with a duality type body, like a checkerboard floor. Sickness/Health, and some very strong temptations people have to react and be angry versus the struggle to overcome self.

Lyra was and is, higher human in this neck of the woods, telepathic and advanced.

Humans exist throughout the infinite universe as do all the other life forms including things we can't imagine.

And in these levels there are wars going on above.

Ultimately however this little planet on the farthest outreach of the Orion arm, is run by dark side, with a lot of light looking in. It has a lot of cycles and problems, but this cycle we're going forward with clean energy and upgrades. The reset is not allowed.

And high level souls here.

Soul, the thing you also don't understand, the part of you that beams in and takes the body, the driver of the car.

I remembered all my life since 2 and on, beaming in, like a shooting star.

That is your soul, infinite and eternal. That's what soul is.

There are sides up there and you have a certain group you're connected to. They may even be a mixture of various types.



The human element in pleiades and andromeda and sirius and alpha centauris etc, found nearly everywhere, is from Lyra and the exodus.

Think of like Star Wars and Princess Lea's planet was destroyed by the death star or dark side, similar to that except we knew it was coming. And the exodus was intergalactic.

However, there were already humans in Andromeda because the models and dna are always used over and over again.

Ple'o'sh'a'n is from Lyra.

We have family watching over all the time. There are different types of ufolgy going on, some with the moon based greys and is your group the zeta's or ebens? Are you part of the Annanuki's.


Tell me about the work with earth propping, because that has been occurring but the damage to it has also been because of a group of ETS. Fukushima and every war is due to the Top of the Pyramid, running the show here, non human origin.

And ET's know that, and they know humans cannot change things.

A billion Chinese cannot get their governments to stop organ transplants with living prisoners.

There is no group above that thinks humans, the majority of citizens are doing this.

There are groups taking dolphins and whales off planet and to various systems, and remembered that work as well.

Because we know something is occurring, because of something the leaders here have done to earth, many souls and yes they are eternal, are being rescued from this planet.

However, humans are not virus's. they're in tests and most are unable to wake up at all here.

and its ET at the helm of that agenda, its ET at the helm of the bloodlines and the wars and abuse of this planet.

The bad side of ET.

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01/01/2019 07:18 AM

Can we PLEASE not derail this thread into squabbles
about who gets to comment here.

**Beings On Terra/Earth Do Like To Argue Don't They ?? ... Perhaps They Are "Tellarites" In Disguise ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

[link to memory-alpha.wikia.com]

I like ST...He's cool.

**Depends On How I'm Dressed ... Where I'm At !! ... Currently "Semi Warm" With A Nearby Breeze !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

ST is credible to many

**WE (ETs) Would Hope So !! ... As Those On Terra/Earth ... Need All The Help They Can Get !! ... They Are So "Misinformed & Backwards" There !!

...and to some not so much.

**Its Of Living/Existing In 3rd Density Bodies ... Of A Lower Vibratory Rate !! ... Essentially Those There Are "Very Dense Beings" (Which Explains Alot !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!)

Doesn't matter--ST IS NOT THE TOPIC.

**Yes, Tis True !! .... As WE (ETs) Have Enough To Do ... To Get Ready, To "Finish Things Up" Before ... The Terrestrial Expression ... "All Hell Breaks Loose" !!

Please stay on point You are getting a HUGE opportunity to find out some of the most important suppressed and guarded information on the planet--PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TRYING TO KEEP THIS SECRET. So let's give it the respect it deserves.

**Yes, Though Much Is Of "Theory & Conjecture" ... Rather Then Of US/WE (ETs) Knowing & Being Out Here ... Living/WOrking In Space !!

**Of A Line From "Admiral Kirk" In Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home ... In Answering Dr. Gillian Taylor (Whale Biologist) ... Who Says Sarcastically ... "Don't Tell Me, You're From Space" !! ... To Which He Replies Calmly, ... "No, I Actually Am From Iowa, I Only Work In Space" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

ON ANOTHER POINT...

Does anyone find it very interesting that we have just
gone through the George Bush funeral with that little
"drama" surrounding the passing of some message in
envelopes to some of the BIG WIGS in the front row
and caught on camera.

**That Was "Intrigue" For The "Curious" ... The "Commoners" As It Were !! ... The Actual "George Bush Sr." Left Long Ago & Is Underground ... As Are Many Ones That Are Of "Politics" ... Of "Hollywood" ... Ones Who "In The News" & So Forth !! ... The One Who "Died" Was A "Replicant" ... A Grown "Imperfect Copy" Of The Original From The Original's Cells !! ... When These "Break Down" (Like Hillary Clinton's "Replicant", Then "Obvious To The Public" "Health Problems" Are Noticed !!

IF YOU FOLLOWED DR. vOYT'S REPORT AT THE BEGINNING
OF THE VIDEO FOR PART 3...He mentions George Bush sr.
by NAME and has a QUOTATION from a White House Journalist
with Bush's own words:

"...If the American people ever find out what we have done
they will come for us IN THE STREETS!" (What they have
done is orchestrated a 60 year stealth cover-up for ANY
REFERENCE to ice age and solar micro novas from the people
to know their "hidden history" and what's coming at us
right now!

**The Question However Is ... Was This From ... The "Original" George Bush Sr. ... Or His "Replicant" Who "Believes" They Are The Original ??

**There Was "Another Interview" ... Which Is Remembered ... Of The Original George Bush Jr. ... Of Which He Was Asked ... What He Thought About Situations/Happenings "Down The Road" On Terra/Earth ... In Which He Responded ... That It Doesn't Matter, As Noone Will Be Around !!

**A Rather "Cryptic Response" Which Can Be Taken As ... Noone Will Be "Around" As In "Alive" On Terra/Earth !!

Then Voyt's report here gets released to the public
in December right before the funeral. Maybe the
message on the NOTES TO THE BIG WIGS WAS:
"DISCLOSURE FROM DOUGLAS VOYT HITS YOUTUBE DECEMBER 13.
BE READY...THE WORLD WILL NOW KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE
COMING SOLAR MICRO-NOVA--AND HOW YOU'VE HIDDEN IT."

**There Is No "Solar Micro Nova" ... Which Is Created "Disinformation" !! ... It Is Another "Cover Story" For Nibiru, It's Tethered Worlds, Their Approach ... & The Devastation, Just The Presence Of This Huge Living World/Traveling Space Vessel & It's Worlds Will Cause To Terra/Earth !!

I'm thinking this would be adequate to strike the look
of SHEER PANIC in Jeb Bush's face.

**Such Is Only "Acting" ... As "Jeb Bush" Was Told Long Ago ... Of Nibiru & What Would Happen/Occur !!

The Bush family will be held responsible for the world missing a chance to PREPARE ALL THE PEOPLE for this event.

**No, They Won't !! ... As This Was All "Play Acting" ... Distraction For The Public ... Rather Then Coming Forth With The "Real Truth" Of What Is Going On ... & What Will Happen/Occur !!

God help them.

**There Is & Never Was A "God" !! ... & Even Their "Fiction On Paper" Would Not ... & Could Not Provide The Help They Need !!

**The Cleansing Will Happen, It Has Already Happened ... & No Inference Will Be Allowed To Occur !! ... It Is How It Was ... & Will Be !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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There is so much I can say, and you're wrong on so many things.

**It's Best Not To ... As You Are "Not Involved" ... & Are "On The Outside" Looking In ... Attempting To Understand What Is Happening !!

I don't want to make an issue of this.

**Then Don't !! ... And Leave "The Driving" As It Were ... To Those That "Are Involved" !! ... Who Know !!

Happy New Year instead.

**This Is More Programming/Control !! ... The "New Year" Is Taken From "The Gregorian "Religious" Calendar ... Which It's Start/Basis Is Of A Con/Bait & Switch ... Of Altering/Telling A Story About A "Fictitious Being" Who Of Their Rendering ... Did Not Exist Physically "In The Flesh" !!

**As This "Calendar" Being "Standard/Popular" ... It Is Forgotten That It Has A "Religious Base" Meant To Control & Mind Enslave The Peoples Of That "Time" ... Up Through The Peoples Of The Termed "Present" !!

**In Effect Those There ... Except For The Very Few Who Have Calculated From The Last Alignment, Sinking Of Aztlan "Atlantis" DO NOT KNOW ... What Day, Date, "Time", Month, Year It Is ... They Are "Clueless" Of This ... & Many Other Things !!

May you be blessed with health and positive experiences and relationships with kind people around you.

**What Will Be ... Is What Will Be !!

I know some of the agenda's on the other side.

**No, You Do Not !! ... You Don't Have The "Whole Picture" ... You ARE NOT "Involved" ... Whereas WE (ETs) Are ... & Preparing For What Is To Happen, Not Only To The Living Planet Terra/Earth & All Life There ... But Also To Other Living Planets In That Solar System & Beyond !!

**Attempting To Relay Information To One(s) Who Are Stuck In Their "Beliefs" On How Things Were & Are ... Who Wish To Argue Their Points ... Is wasteful Of Energy !!

**Suffice To Say ... We're Quite Busy "Finishing Up" With Things & Don't Have The Desire To Spend Needed Moments ... Attempting To "Educate" ... When There Are More "Pressing Needs" To Be Attended To !!

Farewell For Now !!

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There are a few points here that need to be clarified. When I prayed for you last night, some words came out as if I knew you.

And the part about the nuki's we know them, all of them. Every single ET is known to us. Now there is a veil but its a certainty.

Despite your insistent negative posts on cycles, I never get that you are negative.

Polarity exists for a number of realm, clustered realms, especially in what you're calling 4D. Those numbers don't really mean much, more like we're on 97.5 FM, not aware that there are infinite frequencies surrounding us, enveloping us really.

And there is a not a huge Beehive group, without individualization , which is what I'm interpreting from what you wrote.

That lacks individual choice. Ets make choices all the time and are polarity.

The ones operating or reaching our levels, haven't passed their tests yet either.

To help and not harm, to assist and upgrade and rescue souls stuck in mind traps, and that is what this is.

Mind Creates and Cookies/Programming, here on earth and via abductions happens all the time.

Alot of ETs are vested in doom scenarios and not only have experiencers/abductees talked about this, but I've had a group session discussing this very thing.

That is a program, as if trying to create a timeline change.

Instead we're supposed to using positive and disclosing clean energy solutions.

In order to that, it may be needed that those who hid these things for so long, be granted amnesty. Because they won't bring it out to save their own skins.



Love/Kindness is universe, and the very state of soul and energies.

And this is all about that.


You need to free your mind from the Beehive.

And we're not going to be joining ET races, we have our own forms and Families.


And they watch over. Mine are Higher Human.


As for ETs, they're battle each other in space and have committed horrendous crimes.

When you wrote this: **Most Will Go Onto 4th Density, A Higher Vibratory Plane Of Existence ... Of Higher Energies ... & Therefore Will Be Animating Bodies That Are Designed To Withstand, Life, Work In These Forms !! ... They Will Of Course Be Extraterrestrial In Looks, Shapes, Styles !!

That is not happening. And we're not from this universe, from this dimension, from this density.

But Lyra was more close to this and was an initial testing planet for higher humans. But we didn't lose our memories during our lives together, we knew we were doing certain things, and we were space age higher density, yet the Dark Empire still overtook many planets.

We were not warriors, fighting in battle, we were scientists, agricultural experts, FAMILY was important, teleapthic and understood everyone, advanced souls, but we were under attack by a dark menace that was overtaking systems and enslaving people.

Our fight was FREEDOM. Self Defence. And it was the last thing you try.

I believe many civilizations put off defending themselves or battles, and hoped to negotiate and went through some very dark times when they cut deals and ended up creating many hybrids and in the end, this element took over the governments of many places.

And then the battle to free those states and worlds and to stop this group.

Currently forced out to the outer edges of the galaxes.

We were very peaceful.

No one here is joining forms that are not human unless they are agents for other species and prefer that.

We're in a system of infinite progression.

The damage done to earth is being done by the same ETS that took out Lyra, Mars, and battle humans, wherever they're found. They farm humans.
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Umm.. if the sun went NOVA every 12,000, there'd be no life on earth..

Quoting: Really Now..

"There's be no Earth."

There's be no Sun either.

**You Caught/Understood That Too !! ... Which Makes That Person's "Understanding/"Belief" ... Of "The Sun (Solaris) Going Nova Every 12,000 Years" ... As "Non Knowledge/Disinformation" !!

Once it blows itself up, no one is coming to glue it back together. LOL

**It Would Take A Lot Of "Cosmic Glue" ... & Lots Of "ET Patience" To Accomplish The Task !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

Farewell For Now !!

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you wrote this: **The Energies Of/Within Those Bodies Will Mostly Go To The Nearest "Transit Stations" To Self Evaluate Or Be Evaluated ... To Choose Of What Is Available Of Lessons/Teachings To Work On ... Or Will Be Directed ... On Where They Will Be Going Next !!

The next step has already been shown along with what could be potentially called an earth ascension but had no idea how that occurred, even suspected we had passed away because in the twinkling of an eye was in an upgraded human form with my children and my contacts, two pleidians, walked in immediately to take my one more anxious son aside to assure him and download what had occurred.

What was shown at other times was cities in space, not this dimension, not this unfriendly space, it was where all the skills and talents that could never be developed in this scarsity slave system were being developed and was an upgraded world situation where people got to develop themselves and their gifts fully.

And Family is there. We know each other.

And all Higher Human forms.

Monster suits are used by ETs for a reason. Thats not the preferred form.

There infinite models but earth models are very common.

But for some work just continues because we're already in the midst of doing this and on patroles that work to upgrade upgrade other systems. Big Family up there and very busy, but they also enjoy like mind company and working together.

There are lots of time outs for family.

But we choose always, HUMAN form.

Nor is time linear, and some of the memories, awakened here, aren't "past" ones, in fact came from the future to this life, and it was ceteceans that were being rescued from earth and all the destruction caused by the global elites and dark side ets here, all with a vested interest in destroying earth's enviro. They seem to like wastelands.

We were human in the future. We always choose human forms and transmute positive.

Forgot to add this part you wrote which already know isn't true:

The one part is , many will continue their work, they already have soul families and groups. Some will wake up as themselves, but just from disasters, also just getting up and out of here the natural way via life and lessons.

And the lessons here inform the whole. Those here are considered very brave and all information of what causes harmful outcomes, the abuse of childhood, depravation, depression, the entire cause of effect will be shared and downloaded by many in the cosmos.

**Most Will Go Onto 4th Density, A Higher Vibratory Plane Of Existence ... Of Higher Energies ... & Therefore Will Be Animating Bodies That Are Designed To Withstand, Life, Work In These Forms !! ... They Will Of Course Be Extraterrestrial In Looks, Shapes, Styles !!

But we already have Forms!

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ST In BG:

There are a few points here that need to be clarified.

**No, There Aren't !! ... Our Energies Are Quite Valuable ... & Quite Limited On Spending Moments ... Attempting To Explain Of Things ... Of Those Who "Believe" That They Know ... That Are "Not Involved" & Are On "The Sidelines" Looking In Of What Has Happened & What Is Happening !!

When I prayed for you last night, some words came out as if I knew you.

**ETs Do Not "Pray" !! ... "Programmed Humans" Do However !!

**It Is Best To Not Relate/Speculate On Things You Do Not Know ... Of "ET Knowledge" ... As WE (ETs) Are There (Always Have Been) ... & You're ... Well ... "Elsewhere" !!

**And Now Back To Your "Regularly Scheduled Program" ... Terra/Earth Changes ... Already In Progress !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

Farewell For Now !!

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ST In BG:

There are a few points here that need to be clarified.

**No, There Aren't !! ... Our Energies Are Quite Valuable ... & Quite Limited On Spending Moments ... Attempting To Explain Of Things ... Of Those Who "Believe" That They Know ... That Are "Not Involved" & Are On "The Sidelines" Looking In Of What Has Happened & What Is Happening !!

When I prayed for you last night, some words came out as if I knew you.

**ETs Do Not "Pray" !! ... "Programmed Humans" Do However !!

**It Is Best To Not Relate/Speculate On Things You Do Not Know ... Of "ET Knowledge" ... As WE (ETs) Are There (Always Have Been) ... & You're ... Well ... "Elsewhere" !!

**And Now Back To Your "Regularly Scheduled Program" ... Terra/Earth Changes ... Already In Progress !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Prayer is communication, I pour my heart out every night to my Family and to Source, Mom and Dad for the world and every body in it, and you're quite wrong on that.

No one would want to join with a group that is unawakened themselves, your group is not advanced enough in mind/body/spirit or individuality to even cut what these universal tests are about.

The ones that impart that kind of data are bots. Literally this is more akin to ai or robotic.

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I suggest everyone stops secretly hoping for disaster or buying into it.

Your minds create reality to some extent. Though there is alot of work behind the scenes on the planet, consciousness is the driving force of everything.

Which is why certain ETs like to implant cookies and programs.

Even the bible left in that clue:

Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Mark 11:24


Most of the events that are harming earth are from technology, their weaponized weather, their earthquakes and their nukes.

The elite are doing this.

They also have, in their underground lairs, experiments with human hybrid animal forms that are grotesque. Not that the souls there, the people who have been harvested or trapped often from war zone areas, and placed in those body suits are grotesque.

However the evil being done is horrendous.

And they're the ones with their cold nasty overlords, negative ETs, are working to replace humans with these hybrids.

And the dark side love to destroy or alter planets so they can live on them.

Mars is an example and now has a strong reptilian base.


Another thing they love to do is destroy rich water based planet and then they mine the minerals.

Elements higher races combine akin to what stars do.




Think clearly. Ets have been waking people up here for some time, and want Clean Energy and Cosmic truth Disclosed.

There would be zero point to the everything that has been disclosed by many including myself, if there was nothing worth saving on earth.

Why bother working behind the scenes to upgrade the planet and wake people up if the timeline is fixed and pole shifts are disasters on all fronts.

Because consciousness is the driving force and we have been sitting on clean energy for the past century that they have declared classified, matters of national security and refuse to bring out to the people.

Instead they are trying to reset this planet and get rid of everyone because they want to keep their power over others.



We could already have beamships in our back yards and live in a world where properties can be accessed in remote areas and yet only take minutes to shop and visit family in cities, all clean and all advanced, no fundamental religious wars, upgrades in health and consciousness.

We could be meeting the needs of nature and communicating with our furry friends and felines, elephants, dolphins and whales.

Councils of Citizens with the power to fire any hired elected judge or group or politician who is mismanaging anything.

They took it all away from us for the past century.

There should be no homeless. No highways, pipelines, oil dollars, there should be landing pads for your beamships.

PERIOD!

Disclosure and clean energy is what is needed and the hybrids in the underground bases need to be rescued and allowed to live out normal lives until they pass away and the experiments finished.

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I suggest everyone stops secretly hoping for disaster or buying into it.
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It is your spirit, your very soul, that you are tainting with this desire to see billions of people suffer and burn in the fires of the apocalypse, or whatever form one's Doom of choice takes. That way leads to the Dark Side.

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The youtuber alludes to the fact that he knows how we can be saved - but doesn't tell it. Is it in a past video? I've watched 3 of them.
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The youtuber alludes to the fact that he knows how we can be saved - but doesn't tell it. Is it in a past video? I've watched 3 of them.
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just finished watching the one in the OP and was wondering the same thing.

he alludes to more research necessary to determine which side will be facing - just before he mentions paypal ...

interesting vid nonetheless
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Ancient megalithic building blocks measuring +1000 tons or more cut with high technology equipment and moved 100's of miles from quarry to the build sites are found worldwide.

These blocks are granite and world wide all similarly have the east facing surfaces melted. These blocks predate known civilizations and are +10-12,000 years old.

From this evidence I doubt the earth was standing still during the last cataclysmic CME.

Even 1 rotisserie earth rotation at 2500F degrees and the DNA shredding from the CME atomic particles would leave little to tell the story.
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Hey ST in BG,
how can humanity be seen as such a disease, that is killing/harming the "living planet," when compared to what the sun supposedly will do, we are basically a stone tossed into the ocean?

This planet is so important to "ET's" that "they/you" borderline celebrate our extinction, but according to this thread, everything gets washed away and reset cyclically every 12k years.

So any impact we have is made redundant, we make no difference.

Your larp is good, but not perfect. It's funny though to imagine an alien, working in space, referencing star trek, and being an active member of a conspiracy forum. Five stars for entertainment.
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Either videos 4/5 and 5/5 have been deleted or haven’t been posted yet.
It looks like there is a 2 week gap between each video being posted so keep checking his Youtube channel for updates.
Below is the link. Bookmark it.
Unless someone knows where we can find the rest of the series...

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My thoughts:
Which continent will survive the floods?
Put every race on each continent to ensure a current representation of our planet survives the floods.
Are they preparing for this with the “Mass Migration Laws”, “Open Boarder Laws”?

Where do you want to be when the Earth stops spinning and the oceans spill over the continents, at the equator or at the poles?
The water is moving faster at the equator so I’ll bet the poles will be the safest place from the floods.
Any high profile visits to the South Pole lately?
What about the North Pole? Will all the cruise ships head there just before the event loaded with the elite?
And why are all these billionaires building these useless mega yachts?

Underground at the South Pole or in a large ship at the North Pole seem to be the best bet.
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Survive the floods? :)

Life on this planet will be extinguished by the high energy particles of the solar CME. Maybe the few dozen humans/life forms that luckily survive somehow & don't get their DNA shredded will still have mutations both physical and intellectual.

No where to hide, or shield yourself, these HE particles travel through planets.

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Hey ST in BG

how can humanity be seen as such a disease, that is killing/harming the "living planet," when compared to what the sun supposedly will do, we are basically a stone tossed into the ocean?

**It Is Enough That They Are !! ... As To What Solaris Will Or Will Not Do ... That Is Another Matter !!

This planet is so important to "ET's" that "they/you" borderline celebrate our extinction,

**There Would Be Those ETs Who Would "Celebrate" The Discontinuation Of A Species That Has Caused The Living Planet Terra/Earth ... To Be At The Point Of ... Not Being Able To Support 3rd Density Life/Lifeforms ... And See Species As A Disease, That In One Way Or Another Needs To Be Removed !!

but according to this thread, everything gets washed away and reset cyclically every 12k years.

**Terra/Earth Will Be "Cleansed" ... "Ahead Of Time" ... To Save This Living World, This Staging Ground For Lessons, Teachings ... It's Innocent Lifeforms Transported/Taken To Other Worlds To Live In Peace, Without The Threat Of Ones Trying To Kill Their Kind, Destroy & Pollute Their Habitats/Places That They Live !!

So any impact we have is made redundant, we make no difference.

**The Defects, Both Physically & Psychologically Of The "Human Species" Will Be Delt With FINALLY !! ... As This Should Have Been Done ... In Long Ages Ago ... When The Defects Were Revealed/Realized !!

Your larp is good, but not perfect. It's funny though to imagine an alien, working in space, referencing star trek, and being an active member of a conspiracy forum. Five stars for entertainment.

**WE (ETs) Are Not "Into" ... "Live Action Role Playing" !! ... Yes ... WE (ETs) Do Live In Space, Aboard Ships, Live On Other Worlds, Places !!

**What Is So Difficult To Understand ?? ... Of One Of Our People ... The People/One People ... (Roughly Translated Into American English) To Be Able To Communicate & Share Thoughts & Understandings ... Through Systems Of Connection ... That Are To US/WE (ETs) Very Much "Behind The Times" & Antiquated !!

**Enjoy Your "Entertainment" As You See It ... While It Lasts ... As The "Process Of Change" Has Already Begun !! ... This Has Simply Not "Fully Escalated" Yet ... For The "Impact" To Be Of Notice !! ... But It Will Be !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Survive the floods? :)

Life on this planet will be extinguished by the high energy particles of the solar CME.

**If Your Are Referring To The Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) From Solaris (The Sun/Star In That Solar System) ... These High Energies/Radiations Are Already Impacting Terra/Earth ... Of Which Are Due To The "Irritation" Of The Energies Of Solaris ... By An High Energy Magnetic Source, That Is Nearby !!

**Both Of These "Energies" Are Combining & Being "Funneled" To Terra/Earth !!

**Due To Terra/Earth's "Weakened Magnetic Shields" ... The High Energies Are Not Being Blocked, Deflected Away ... & Are Reaching The Surface Of Terra/Earth !!

**Essentially, All Life/Lifeforms Are Dying From "Radiation Sickness" Of Kinds & Types ... That They Are Not Understanding Nor Familiar With !!

Maybe the few dozen humans/life forms that luckily somehow don't get their DNA shredded will still have mutations both physical and mental.

**Very Few Will Survive "Physically" The 1st Inbound Passage Of The High Magnetic Source !! ... Of These, They Too Will Perish From Lack Of Food, Water, Shelter & Despair/Depression !!

No where to hide, or shield yourself, these HE particles travel through planets.

**Indeed There Are Very Few "Options" ... The Only Ones That WE (ETs) Know Of Is ... 1. To Be Off/Away From Terra/Earth ... Out Into Space ... When These "Changes/Upheavals" Occur !! ... 2. Be Underground With "Planetary Neighbors" Who Have Been Through Such "Disturbances" & Know How To Prepare & What To Do !!

**Of Others That Have Went "Underground" Of Their "Cities" They Have Built To Survive ... These Will Becomes So Much Rubble, Debris ... As The Upheavals, The Giant Earthquakes, Energies & Other "Effects" Will See To That !! ... Their Cities Will Become Their "Burial Tombs" !!

**It Will Be The Ending Of That "Reality" ... & Of All Things "Artificial" ... & The Reset/Re-Beginnings Of How Things Were Originally ... Meant To Be !!

Farewell For Now !!

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An update now that I've had a chance to watch the videos (many hours) and stroll through the site. I haven't read everything on their site. These a lot on a variety of topics and by no means to I endorse any of it. However, with respect to the "Polar Reversal" scenario, there's about 90% truth to whats there. At least 10% is, and its import parts, is pure speculation. The videos are highly overlapping with about 50% of the material in each shared with the others which makes it a bit of a waist of time, regardless, I do recommend that everyone watch those videos as they contain very, very important information.

Here's a summary from the site on "Polar Reversal" (<50%):

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The Causes of the Ice Ages and Geomagnetic Reversals (Polar Reversals).

The Problem—Why is the Earth Getting Warmer?
The global warming issue has two competing scientific camps. One side claims that global warming exists and is caused by human made CO2 emissions which is heating up the atmosphere, resulting in global warming. The other camp says there is global warming but it mirrors the Suns output such as changes during the sunspot cycles. I fit into the Sun side of the argument, but both sides have no idea why the Sun’s output has been periodically increasing since the 1890s.

The Riddle of the Ice Age:
The problem with current ice age models are, they can only explain a few of the known facts that happened during these periods. Scientists do not know why they happen cyclically through time or why only the Pleistocene period (11,000 years BP to 1.8 million years BP) exhibited repeated ice ages and ice recessions. They do not know why all ice ages are preceded with a geomagnetic polar reversal. We know there was a great mass extinction of species following the polar reversal and ice age but they do not understand why the extinctions affect both plants and animals worldwide. The most difficult problem to explain, using the traditional models, is the creation of new species immediately after the polar reversal and ice age. There are many more phenomena the traditional models cannot explain, but that has not stopped many scientists from presenting their model (explanation) for some of these phenomena.
Scientists have been trying to figure out the ice age riddle for about 100 years. It should be obvious to everyone by now that the underlining philosophy that creates their models is wrong. The problem is that egos and inertia of the academic community and their institutions prevent change. Not to be too brutal on them but the next polar reversal and nova will solve the problem of their egos and academic rigidity. The question then is: will there be anybody left?

The Problem is the Matter Oriented Theory of Existence.
Our science is based on a matter-oriented theory of existence, which assumes that matter is the dominant driving force in the Universe. Energy and light are explained as the changes in the states of matter. All scientific models are derived from this base philosophy. If this philosophy is wrong than all models built on this basic premise will be wrong.
The only other alternative to explain the workings of the Universe is an information theory of existence. This philosophy holds that Information is the dominant force in the Universe and matter is the product of information. The information derives from another time-space dimension. Mr. Vogt's information theory of existence is called The Theory of Multidimensional Reality and his three books explains the basic philosophy. The first iteration on the theory was in Reality Revealed, The Theory of Multidimensional Reality (1978). The second iteration was presented in Chapter 3 of God’s Day of Judgment, the Real Cause of Global Warming (2007). The third iteration of the theory is in the latest book The Theory of Multidimensional Reality (2015). This is the world’s first information theory of existence.
Even Stephen Hawking, a few years ago, corrected his earlier idea about the end of the Universe collapsing down to the size of a grapefruit, to the idea that after the collapse the Universe then goes to information. He also corrected his previous theory about black holes, which stated that when matter entered a black hole it was destroyed. His new theory is that the matter is not destroyed but goes to information. These two ideas were stated back in 1978 in Chapter 6, page 170 of Reality Revealed.

What is Going to Happen.
The sequence of events that created the Ice Age
We will divide the ice age and polar reversal into three time periods, the first being 50 years leading up to the polar reversal and the ice age. The second part being the actual polar reversal, ice accumulation and other events that occurred within 11 years of the reversal. The last part is the aftermath. The following is a condensed version. Chapter 8 in God’s Day of Judgment has the complete explanation and all the proofs. Samples of Chapter 8 can be read on www.vectorpub.com.

50 Years before
The polar reversal is caused by a clock cycle that runs through time. This clock cycle crosses the x-axis every 12,068 years. Some might call this a zero-point energy event. A complete cycle would represent two polar reversals, or 24,136 years.
The magnetic field of the Earth will start decaying within 50 years of the actual polar reversal, but the decay will start to exponentially decay as we get within 7 years of the reversal. The magnetic field does not have to go to zero before it snaps to a reversed polarity. As the magnetic field decays, it will create increased heat in the core of the Earth. The additional heat will rise towards the surface and manifest itself in the form of increased volcanoes and earthquakes. The increase in earthquakes is a result of the continental plates sliding more easily against each other. The increased heat of the mantel of the Earth’s, upon which the plates “float,” will become more lubricated, enabling them to move or fracture more easily. The increase in volcanic activity goes along with that process.
The Earth’s rotation will start slowing down in this period of time, resulting in the necessity to add seconds, then minutes to our clocks. Weeks, and maybe months, before the reversal the Earth’s rotation will slow down markedly, maybe resulting in 28-hour days.
The Sun will also be affected by its own collapsing magnetic field. The Sun’s output will start increasing over 140 years before the final reversal. The increased solar output will start heating up the surface of the Earth. Sea surface temperatures will rise during sunspot cycles, successively increasing, as we get closer to the reversal. The polar ice caps and glaciers will start melting, resulting in ocean levels rising. Before the polar reversal, most of the ice caps and glaciers may have melted. The increased sea surface temperature will create more violent and frequent storms worldwide. The increase in solar output will create additional levels of ultraviolet light hitting the Earth. This will deplete the ozone layers in the upper atmosphere during the sunspot maximums.

The Polar Reversal
The actual polar reversal occurs in one day. There is a complex series of events that will happen on that day. I will start with what happens to the Sun.

What Happens on and in the Sun
The collapsing magnetic field deep inside the Sun will create a large spike of energy that will cause the matter and dust shell on the surface, to expand very rapidly. This event we would call a stellar nova. I estimate the speed of the dust shell to approach 1,550 miles per second. My best estimate for the energy output during the nova is no less than 2,000 times the normal energy output. The equatorial region of the Sun will blow outward along the planetary plane, hitting each planet as the dust shell expands rapidly. As the hot dust/matter shell hits each successive planet, it will push the planets a little further away from the Sun. After the nova the planets will receive a little less energy from the Sun. The planets also lose some of their atmosphere and surface liquids. Eventually, the dust/matter shell will lose enough momentum and stall out somewhere past Neptune. This is called the Kuiper belt.
After the Sun’s matter shell has been expelled, it will give off mostly ultraviolet light but not that much radiant heat. The Sun will remain that way until the matter shell can form around it again, and that may take a number of sunspot cycles.

The Rotation of the Earth
At the exact time of the polar reversal the Earth will stop its rotation and remain still for seven to eight hours. The forests and buildings on the Sun-side of the Earth will combust if the plants are not flooded by the ocean or nearby lake. Not only will heat affect plants and animals, but the Sun will produce a massive dose of cosmic and gamma rays, which will reach the Earth within 10 to 15 minutes after the reversal. This cosmic particle pulse may last 10 to 30 seconds with the potential to alter the genes/DNA of both plants and animals, including humans. Now you know what creates new species based on older species.

The Solar Dust Shell
The people on the Sun-side of the Earth will be able to see the Sun expanding, and the solar disk getting larger as it expands towards the Earth. I estimate the dust shell will take between 17 to 18 hours to hit the Earth. The dust shell will not necessarily hit the side of the Earth that faced the Sun, at the moment of the polar reversal, because 18 hours will have passed and another side of the Earth will be facing the Sun. When the dust shell hits us, it will deposit vast quantities of dust and rock on one-half of our Earth.

Solar Evaporation of Ocean Water and the Snow
The nova will also evaporate at least 600 feet of ocean water, worldwide. Some of this water will be lost into space, carried away by the expanding dust shell. Some of it will appear to us as returning comets. Most of the water will remain in the atmosphere as superheated water for several days to a week. As the atmosphere cools down it will start to rain hot rain. As it cools further the rain gets colder until it turns to snow. Lots of snow and it will keep snowing for the next 40 to 50 years until most of the moisture is rung out of the atmosphere.
If you could see the Earth from space just after the Nova, you would see it with a thick tail, pointing away from the Sun. It will be made up of dust and ice crystals. Eventually the debris tail will disappear over several thousand years, as the Earth’s gravity brings the material back into the upper atmosphere.

Fast Frozen Animals on the Back Side
Just after the solar dust shell passes the Earth, the dust shell side will have extremely low atmospheric pressure because the dust shell would have blown most of the atmosphere away on that side, we just do not know how much. The backside of the Earth will temporarily have normal atmospheric pressure, but that condition will not last long. Very shortly after the dust shell passes by, the normal atmosphere on the backside, will expand very rapidly to fill up the front side (dust shell side) of the Earth. Two things will result from this process: The first will be extremely high-speed winds traveling around the Earth from all four corners of the globe, to fill up the extremely low atmospheric pressure on the dust shell side. The second consequence of this process is revealed in Boyle’s law: “If a given weight of gas is considered and if its temperature is held constant, the pressure and volume of the gas will be inversely proportional.” Applying this law to the conditions that will be present on the backside of the Earth, the atmosphere will expand very fast and, therefore, the temperature will drop to extreme levels, possibly below -180 degrees Fahrenheit below zero. Any life forms caught out in the open, or even in the average building will be fast frozen almost instantly!

The Oceans
When the Earth stops its rotation, all the water in the oceans and lakes will continue to travel in the former easterly direction of the Earths former rotational velocity. It is like walking at 5 miles-per-hour with a pan of water and you stop abruptly. The water keeps on going at 5 mph. Just before the reversal, the Earth may only be rotating at 800 mph, instead of the normal 1,000 mph (at the equator), because the rotational rate will have slowed down considerably. I would expect the wave-speed to slow down considerably after the first hour on land. Many factors will determine the speed of the wave, such as land elevation, forest ground cover, gravity and the heat blast from the Sun. Depending on how long the Earth remains at rest will determine how far this immense Ocean wave will travel across the continents. When the Earth resumes rotation it will be in the reverse direction than previous. This action will make the tidal wave appear to once again speed up, but really its because the Earth would be now rotating in the opposite direction of the wave. I believe it is not unreasonable to assume the speed of this massive tidal wave would average about 350-miles-per-hour. Within a week, this massive ocean wave will have returned to the ocean basins. As it returns, it will naturally follow the river basins leading to the sea, cutting deeper into existing deep-sea canyons. Some deep-sea canyons currently cut down to over 11,000 feet below sea level.


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Thanks, it looks like there's some good reading at his web site which I haven't checked out yet. I had watched part 1A and part 1B in this series twice each so far. I am only just now watching Part 2. I saw the date it was uploaded, December 2018, and felt like we are on the cutting edge watching this new material. This video already has over 9,000 views - probably a lot of Randall-Carlson-following, Robert-Felix-reading, Oppenheimer-Ranch-watching people like me are jumping on these new presentations.

Would like to see a symposium with those guys and this guy Douglas Vogt, and Valentina Zarkhova, it's cool they are all still alive and could actually be in the same room together in reality, not just in imagination.

Oppenheimer Ranch and The Leak Project (Ben somebody) are putting on a thing in Denver in May, I think it's called LeakCon. Some good people going to be there including Robert Felix and the Ice Age Farmer guy, the Adapt 2030 guy (I think) among others.

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Does he talk about surviving this?
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Does he talk about surviving this?
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Not as far as I've watched so far. Just outlining the situation as he sees it so far.
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Starting to see the reason I post here as well? I know the cookie knows why.

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Does he talk about surviving this?
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He mentioned it, but did not describe how.

In reality, it's not possible.
A 2500F heat blast for unknown revolution(s) of the earth.
And high energy atomic particles that penetrate all matter, shredding the DNA of all living creatures.

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Interesting to look at the Richat structure = Atlantis in North West Africa, you can see clearly that the Ocean swept all over N Africa at some point.

But the idea that this happens every 12,600 yrs world wide plus a good roasting from Gamma rays, unimaginable wind speeds, sand blasted by glass beads, and 40 yrs of snow, followed by several mile thick ice sheets is not remotely survivable by anything bigger than a bug.
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