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Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,

 
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apparently you didn't watch the videos.

what happens when the sun goes nova?

i believe that the sun rids itself of the material deposited into the sun from the comets, that fall into it, on a clock cycle of 12,600 years.
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I only watched enough to get a feel for how I felt about the gentleman's theory, so you are right - and I did mention this earlier, asking people to explain this.

Because what you describe is not a nova. A nova is a very specific thing (actually that involves a binary system), so I am still waiting to find out all about it, without having to waste my time watching videos. A nova is end game - no more sun.
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micro-nova
 Quoting: Trey_is_Wilson


To add a little to this - The numerous series of his 'post nova' images ALL show the star(Sun) remaining in the center of the system. Along with dust clouds(?) & star/planet systems. The 'nova' terminology may or may not be correct in this presentation, the process of cyclic shedding solar material.

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One more possibility. I actually studied large asteroid strikes such as the KT Impact when I was an aerospace engineer. There were government funds to study the risk of impacts.

One popular hypothesis is that there is a large body out in the Oort Cloud that disrupts the orbits of icy bodies and sends them falling into the inner Solar System. Note that far from the Sun, it takes very little energy to put such a body into a parabolic orbit such as we see from comets.

There seems to be a periodicity to impacts. KT was about 65M years ago while there was another bombardment of Earth about 33M years ago.

If may be possible that very large objects such as a gas giant could be sent sunward on such a parabolic orbit. What would occur if such a large object hit the Sun as many comets do? Perhaps that could explain the evidence of rocks melting as the heat blast from the impact hit Earth.

BTW, you may note that we about due for another era of impacts, give or take a million years or so.

Don't stop digging and stocking your new bunker!
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Thanks Darth :)
I've been following Brien Foerster on YT and getting obsessed with the Advanced Tech machined megaliths and sub structures around the world. They dated structural damage to back then too, an earthquake or earth shock +10,000BC kinda ties in. I thought the melting was a localized solar plasma filament, but a nova... ELE

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“Many of these animals appear to go out 12,900 years ago after a preceding and catastrophic event. In fact, this stratum of nanodiamonds – the sediments containing these nanodiamonds – in some cases sit directly above the bones of these extinct animals. These animal bones do not occur above the sedimentary layers in well-stratified sections.

Nanodiamonds only form under very high temperatures and pressures consistent with a major cosmic impact event. It’s very hard to explain their presence in these sediments just based on other kinds of surficial processes. And, of course, increased temperatures and pressures would have had major repercussions for the environment in North America, including vegetation and animals and humans that were on the landscape at the time.

“The destruction would have been instantaneous. People living in the immediate vicinity of impact or airbursts would pretty much have been annihilated. And where the impacts and airbursts would have occurred, there would have been a lot of debris kicked up into the atmosphere. And I can imagine there would have been major sound – even hard to imagine the senses that would have been involved in all this. Also, the wildfires triggered by all this would have put smoke and soot up into the atmosphere that would also have had major atmospheric effects in terms of obscuring the sun for fairly long periods of time.”
 Quoting: Earthfiles


Back in 2012, this was posted:
Thread: Gobekli Tepe: We are in the end times
 Quoting: Really Now
 Quoting: Nemesis8


Wrong - Nano diamonds can be created from simple burning of oxygen and acetylene


This paper presents the results of studies of mi-
cro- and nanodiamonds obtained in the ame of
oxy-acetylene torch on the surface of the copper
lm previously deposited on the silicon wafers by
Raman scattering (RS) and scanning electron mi-
croscopy (SEM).


(PDF) Investigation of Microdiamonds Obtained by the Oxygen-Acetylene Torch Method. Available from: [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] [accessed Jan 03 2019].

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micro-nova
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To add a little to this - The numerous series of his 'post nova' images ALL show the star(Sun) remaining in the center of the system. Along with dust clouds(?) & star/planet systems. The 'nova' terminology may or may not be correct in this presentation, the process of cyclic shedding solar material.
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Yes.. I was starting to think that this pseudoscientist is misusing terminology in some way, because that's usually what happens.

Sounds like a super-massive CME, not a nova (and yet, even that would toast the earth completely, irradiating it into a Mercury like husk.

It's like the movie.. The Knowing. Yer gonna need space aliens and millions of years to make it work!
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New video from Ben interviewing Douglas Vogt

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If the Globalist elite, NASA and the NSF really did conspire since 1958 to distract the public and mainstream science community from finding out about Solar Novagate...

I have to wonder why they would simultaneously doom their own elitist survival by building out a modern infrastructure that is totally dependent on electromagnetic STABILITY.

On the day after the 2046 cataclysm, exactly how do they plan to reboot even the most basic equipment required for their ice age survival?

Even if a small portion of shielded electronics manage survive the epic EMP of such an event,
I'm thinking that the reboot won't be as easy as plugging the coffee maker power cord in backwards.

Other than one leaky World Seed Bank, the after-math doesn't add up.
How, when and where did they hide all the "backwards engineered" non-digital, non-electronics that will sustain them through the first thousands of years of ice age?

Why are the elite all not avidly leaning how to cross country ski and ice fish?

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If the Globalist elite, NASA and the NSF really did conspire since 1958 to distract the public and mainstream science community from finding out about Solar Novagate...

I have to wonder why they would simultaneously doom their own elitist survival by building out a modern infrastructure that is totally dependent on electromagnetic STABILITY.

On the day after the 2046 cataclysm, exactly how do they plan to reboot even the most basic equipment required for their ice age survival?

Even if a small portion of shielded electronics manage survive the epic EMP of such an event,
I'm thinking that the reboot won't be as easy as plugging the coffee maker power cord in backwards.

Other than one leaky World Seed Bank, the after-math doesn't add up.
How, when and where did they hide all the "backwards engineered" non-digital, non-electronics that will sustain them through the first thousands of years of ice age?

Why are the elite all not avidly leaning how to cross country ski and ice fish?

spock
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Your thinking is very odd on this, The infrastructure such as the above ground electric grid is always going to be susceptible to large EM disturbances, The cost to build it resilient are obviously not economically viable. Why would they care what happens to us on the surface?

Lots of milspec equipment that's inside DUMBs will be fine

Isn't there supposed to be a 2nd seed vault somewhere? south pole? or undisclosed location?

How do you know the elite arn't learning to ski and ice fish? do you think you would know about it if they were?
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New video from Ben interviewing Douglas Vogt


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fisher

Ben mentions a few libraries have a 284 page original Thomas book? Mine has 127, and his third book Aftermath has 85 pages which equals 297. So, it seems I may have the complete book as three separate books by Chan Thomas. The second book was Postlude, and that is part of my "autographed" Thomas book. (I have several copies, even a leather bound edition) I had to look everywhere - and I found it. (World in Peril by Ken White is coming as well. Found a first edition "autographed" copy by the author!)

secrets

EDIT: I went back and looked at all of them. My first edition autographed book has 127 pages of the combined first and second, and then, in the SAME binding, is found the third, Aftermath, at 85 pages. SO, 212 pages. He wrote: "To Helen, with warmest regards. See you on the mountain top" Chan Thomas 1994.

Dedications in mine:

to Dear Wife
Without her help and faith
Through the years of sleepless nights
And seemingly endless trails of study,
Research, translation, and travel
This book
Never would have come into being.

to
General LeMay
Admiral Taylor
To the Joint Staff of that time for their inspiring encouragement without which this book might not exist.

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New video from Ben interviewing Douglas Vogt


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fisher

Ben mentions a few libraries have a 284 page original Thomas book? Mine has 127, and his third book Aftermath has 85 pages which equals 297. So, it seems I may have the complete book as three separate books by Chan Thomas. The second book was Postlude, and that is part of my "autographed" Thomas book. (I have several copies, even a leather bound edition) I had to look everywhere - and I found it. (World in Peril by Ken White is coming as well. Found a first edition "autographed" copy by the author!)

secrets

EDIT: I went back and looked at all of them. My first edition autographed book has 127 pages of the combined first and second, and then, in the SAME binding, is found the third, Aftermath, at 85 pages. SO, 212 pages. He wrote: "To Helen, with warmest regards. See you on the mountain top" Chan Thomas 1994.

Dedications in mine:

to Dear Wife
Without her help and faith
Through the years of sleepless nights
And seemingly endless trails of study,
Research, translation, and travel
This book
Never would have come into being.

to
General LeMay
Admiral Taylor
To the Joint Staff of that time for their inspiring encouragement without which this book might not exist.
 Quoting: Nemesis8



the declassified / sanitized version is available to read online here:

[link to www.cia.gov (secure)]

It's only 57 pages, if you have time could you flick through your copy and the CIA released version and see if you have the jackpot.
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the declassified / sanitized version is available to read online...

It's only 57 pages, if you have time could you flick through your copy and the CIA released version and see if you have the jackpot.
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fisher

That CIA version has those weird shopping lists and articles from a magazine in it. Those are not supposed to be there. Wonder if they contain CODE? I will make a thorough comparison later tonight hopefully.

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missing pages..

2
8
18
20
30
36
46
50
52
54
56 -through to at least 117(pg 117 mentioned by CIA notes, possibly unrelated who knows) unknown how many more pages long the book is.


Indeed the shopping list is either some weird CIA code /classification thing or those pages from the book are possibly mentioning those items, maybe covert instructions to build something. That article of the US Lost nuke is weird.
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missing pages..

2
8
18
20
30
36
46
50
52
54
56 -through to at least 117(pg 117 mentioned by CIA notes, possibly unrelated who knows) unknown how many more pages long the book is.


Indeed the shopping list is either some weird CIA code /classification thing or those pages from the book are possibly mentioning those items, maybe covert instructions to build something. That article of the US Lost nuke is weird.
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fisher

I will look for those pages in particular. I also missed more dedications... Need to put the Makers Mark down for a few minutes it seems.... yeahsure

Dedications in mine:

to Dear Wife
Without her help and faith
Through the years of sleepless nights
And seemingly endless trails of study,
Research, translation, and travel
This book
Never would have come into being.

to
General Hal Grant
and his wonderful family
General LeMay
Admiral Taylor
To the Joint Staff of that time for their inspiring encouragement without which this book might not exist.

to
all of those
who ridiculed, scorned and laughed
relegating me to the nuthouse
and even firing me.
For how else would I have been driven
to pursue, solve, find and derive
the truth. I owe them.


WAT CRAB
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Somebody research those mil dudes
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to
General Hal Grant
and his wonderful family
General LeMay
Admiral Taylor
To the Joint Staff of that time for their inspiring encouragement without which this book might not exist.

to
all of those
who ridiculed, scorned and laughed
relegating me to the nuthouse
and even firing me.
For how else would I have been driven
to pursue, solve, find and derive
the truth. I owe them.


WAT CRAB
GIF credit: Citizenperth

Somebody research those mil dudes
 Quoting: Nemesis8



On it - I was looking into the annotation on harold Wilsons photo on that article where an operative wrote Nee Lundhal


I was going to post summarized service records for them, however they have had long and distinguished careers, Lemay even running as vice president, I can't summarize.

General Grant
[link to www.arlingtoncemetery.net]
Worked in crypto and comms, Was knighted by british empire.

Genral LeMay
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Had technical backgroung,Was in-charge of bombers / nukes, Youngest 4 star general, ran as Vice president, was a freemason.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


There is an asia connection as all 3 have served in / around Asia region.
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I will look for those pages in particular. I also missed more dedications... Need to put the Makers Mark down for a few minutes it seems.... yeahsure

Dedications in mine:

to Dear Wife
Without her help and faith
Through the years of sleepless nights
And seemingly endless trails of study,
Research, translation, and travel
This book
Never would have come into being.

to
General Hal Grant
and his wonderful family
General LeMay
Admiral Taylor
To the Joint Staff of that time for their inspiring encouragement without which this book might not exist.

to
all of those
who ridiculed, scorned and laughed
relegating me to the nuthouse
and even firing me.
For how else would I have been driven
to pursue, solve, find and derive
the truth. I owe them.



 Quoting: Nemesis8


So The Author using a pseudonym, Chan Thomas, He has a wife and he knows those Mil dudes, He possibly has an asian connection (his pseudonym chan and the fact all 3 Mill dudes spent time in Asia), Obviously Ex mil and spent time in a nuthouse, He knows Hals Family,General hals wife used to teach people to ride horses, I bet my left testicle The Authors wife rode with her.

Wish they had facebook back in 1950-60s would be so much easier.
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There was an ac post from what looks like the first reference here about this particular book. Hope OP does not mind all our side track here? Look here:

As the original book has 252 pages, it makes you wonder what they are trying to hide???

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That mentioned the full book length also. 252 Pages
AND check this post out:

Thread: Doom (Page 3)

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So we’re all going to die?

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Some will survive, we just don’t know who. Civilation will go on.
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Though Dr. Voyt in the first video in OP's introduction
does NOT emphasize this statement--you need to listen very
carefully for it--Voyt makes the statement that SOME
PEOPLE CAN SURVIVE THIS...(I believe it is close to the
end of Part #4--the first video above when he says this.)

He then makes the caveat...and IMPORTANT POINT...
"...It will depend on WHERE YOU ARE ON THE PLANET when
this thing hits."


So...sadly, if you embrace Dr. Voyt's information,
"prepping" is not going to buy you any insurance. According
to what Dr. Voyt says is that we need to BE VERY AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE at the time this happens!!

Dr. V. said the last "focal point was in India" and Egypt
for this event--being evident by certain types of
"glass" left on the ground which is actually blasted out
parts of the sun's shell during a micro-nova (as Ben
Davidson from Suspicious Observer's video) calls it.
He DOES NOT say where researchers believe the "NEXT EVENT"
WILL TAKE PLACE which would be survivable.

He promises to go into greater detail in one of his
later videos (the one I watched on Page 1 paragraph 1 is
from #4...I'm assuming he will tell us more about LOCATION
in #5 or #6.

This is an extremely interesting topic...and Ben Davidson
is SO IMPRESSED (in his December 2018 video posted above)
that he places the research of Dr. Douglas Voyt as an
EQUAL IF NOT SUPERIOR to that of Immanuel Velikovsky (who
is considered a genius by many.)

GREAT TOPIC, OP. THANK YOU!

five stars

O'sCookie
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Probably need to be in Paraguay, where Bushes own enormous estate...
 Quoting: WHITE GLOVES


That's always a good plan...watch the people who would
access to "insider information"...and go where they go
(if you can do that.)

Now...THIS begs the question:
If THEY KNOW something is coming very soon, WHY BUILD
A WALL?

Let's say the place to SURVIVE the next "event" is
actually in South America...They BUILD A WALL...and
how are the people of the U.s.A. going to be able to
go SOUTH....

Anyone ever consider that the wall is to keep U.S.
POPULATIONS FROM MIGRATING SOUTH...AND NOT the other
way around!

Now...That'll cook your noodle! lol!

The Oracle explains what'll "bake your noodle" at
the 53 second mark!


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
2 minute duration--From "THE MATRIX."

cheers
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That mentioned the full book length also. 252 Pages
AND check this post out:

Thread: Doom (Page 3)


Hmmmm

If you've got the missing pages, please post some pics I'm acutely interested in this possibly ridiculous book.
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look up
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If you watch the videos. He says it is to happen in 2046. We have a ways to go. DOOM OFF.
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This is the only real doom there is....and 27 years isn't that far off....
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Now you can understand Ancient Aliens, they are nothing more than the members of the surviving Advanced species trying to rekindle civilization!
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You guys should be looking at this is very serious and totally scientific.... Its Long but says basically the ICE age is here and the NOVAs are about to happen.

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fisher

Cheer Up OP! This is more grand than you can imagine. I want you to know, that doom and gloom is only for the physical. We are more than that my friend. Go buy a "LifeStraw" for each of your family members. You will thank me one day you did. I added this video to my "Future" page on the site. I have a secret publisher that helps me with my research when I get stuck, so the site is authentic, and not hyperbole.

LifeStraw Link: [link to www.lifestraw.com (secure)]
My Futures Page Link: [link to nemesis8.com (secure)]

PS: There is a good read from our very own pseudonym(?) Chan Thomas, on the Magnetic Pole Shift half way down under 2018-2020 A.D. He tells you how to tell when the dust cloud is about to hit the fan.

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Now you can understand Ancient Aliens, they are nothing more than the members of the surviving Advanced species trying to rekindle civilization!
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That doesn't work with this theory. There is no global evidence of any kind of disaster of this magnitude for at least several several million years, whereas there is the expected amount of evidence for normal human living during the various stages of humanity's existence, all the way back to some little tribe in Africa (the one where that woman is the ancestor of all of us), during the time of Indonesian Super Volcanoism (if I recall correctly).

Therefore, a) any "super advanced" civilizations would have had to be millions upon millions of years ago, billions actually. Which goes to b) this "pseudo-nova" doom would have to only operate on cycles longer than hundreds of millions or billions of years.

One cannot pull a doom-theory out of one's inventiveness that does't fit the reality of observations, else, well. This is y2k/2012 all over again.

chuckle

Thus, as I said on page 1, this is GLP magic! Perfect GLP thread, in the classic sense!

:magic:
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Has anyone else noticed that this also clicks with the, declassified in part, book The Adam and Eve Story by Chan Thomas??

[link to www.cia.gov (secure)]

(Starts on P. 7)

Vogt definitely showed why it was declassified in part; the CIA redacted the info that the Sun Novas.

Wow.

And yes there is evidence cataclysms like this have happened in the past. Pages 21-24 (of 57) of the story I linked above.

Edit again: I see it has been brought up and I’m just late to the party aha! Glad it’s getting out there.

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rodney-ugh Like I said before if we start seeing the aurora borealis around the 35th parallel area or below it could definitely mean some doom in the close future.
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still the most important thread on glp...
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missing pages..

2
8
18
20
30
36
46
50
52
54
56 -through to at least 117(pg 117 mentioned by CIA notes, possibly unrelated who knows) unknown how many more pages long the book is.


Indeed the shopping list is either some weird CIA code /classification thing or those pages from the book are possibly mentioning those items, maybe covert instructions to build something. That article of the US Lost nuke is weird.
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matrix

These pages are blank pages in the first edition autographed book.

2 is BLANK
8 is BLANK
18 is BLANK
20 is BLANK
30 is BLANK
36 is BLANK
46 is BLANK
50 is BLANK
52 is BLANK
54 is BLANK


EDIT: Run silent, run deep //8\\

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