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Yogi Mahashishna User ID: 75371558 Finland 12/25/2018 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one does not try to map plot twists on to other movies there are many that shared the same premise, the world as expericensed it not as real as we think ... Truman Show, 13th Floor, Vanilla Sky come to mind ... and there are many more It is almost impossible to carry the torch of truth through a crowd without singeing somebody's beard ... or without getting banned |
Anymous Cowboy (OP) User ID: 77221921 United States 12/25/2018 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matrix got hyped too much, because the ideas weren't as strikingly original as claimed. Quoting: Yogi Mahashishna If one does not try to map plot twists on to other movies there are many that shared the same premise, the world as expericensed it not as real as we think ... Truman Show, 13th Floor, Vanilla Sky come to mind ... and there are many more Yes, but none of those shows had the "looking for a savior among the inmates" theme. The Matrix and Dark City did have that theme. That's the story line I suppose I am looking for. element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
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vEyeSea User ID: 21337117 United States 12/25/2018 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a great movie, better than it's twin, the Matrix. And much better acting. The story is basically from "Simulation and Simulacra" by Boudrigard (sp?). "Simulation and Simulacra" is the book that Neo opens at the beginning of the movie that holds his vr type drug that he sells to those people at the door of his apartment. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77064257 United States 12/25/2018 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. Quoting: S.R. The simple fact that anyone argues about this shit while everyone around me is dying of kidney failure just shows how completely worthless movies are. Oh lookie, humans make moving pictures about serious subjects. While they die from drinking the soft drinks in the big cushy seats. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76432175 United States 12/25/2018 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. Quoting: S.R. The simple fact that anyone argues about this shit while everyone around me is dying of kidney failure just shows how completely worthless movies are. Oh lookie, humans make moving pictures about serious subjects. While they die from drinking the soft drinks in the big cushy seats. You can never make yourself over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76432175 United States 12/25/2018 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. Quoting: S.R. The simple fact that anyone argues about this shit while everyone around me is dying of kidney failure just shows how completely worthless movies are. Oh lookie, humans make moving pictures about serious subjects. While they die from drinking the soft drinks in the big cushy seats. You can never make yourself over. It's absolute. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76432175 United States 12/25/2018 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just finishing it now. 1) Where did the original story come from? 2) What are the story influences? It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76432175 United States 12/25/2018 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just finishing it now. 1) Where did the original story come from? 2) What are the story influences? It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. I was eight years old and running with a dime in my hand Into the bus stop to pick up a paper for my old man I'd sit on his lap in that big old Buick and steer as we drove through town He'd tousle my hair and say son take a good look around this is your hometown This is your hometown This is your hometown This is your hometown In '65 tension was running high at my high school There was a lot of fights between the black and white There was nothing you could do Two cars at a light on a Saturday night in the back seat there was a gun Words were passed in a shotgun blast Troubled times had come to my hometown My hometown My hometown My hometown Now Main Street's whitewashed windows and vacant stores Seems like there ain't nobody wants to come down here no more They're closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back to your hometown Your hometown Your hometown Your hometown Last night me and Kate we laid in bed talking about getting out Packing up our bags maybe heading south I'm thirty-five we got a boy of our own now Last night I sat him up behind the wheel and said son take a good look around This is your hometown |
Yogi Mahashishna User ID: 75371558 Finland 12/26/2018 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a great movie, better than it's twin, the Matrix. And much better acting. The story is basically from "Simulation and Simulacra" by Boudrigard (sp?). "Simulation and Simulacra" is the book that Neo opens at the beginning of the movie that holds his vr type drug that he sells to those people at the door of his apartment. Quoting: vEyeSea Baudrillard. Editorial Observer; A French Philosopher Talks Back to Hollywood and 'The Matrix' Most writers would swoon over product placement like this. But Mr. Baudrillard was unimpressed when we conversed by e-mail recently. He noted that the film's ''borrowings'' from his work ''stemmed mostly from misunderstandings'' and suggested that no movie could ever do justice to the themes of this book. This apocalyptic message owes something to the work of the science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick (1928-82), a cult figure who wrote extensively about the moral problems that result when the distinctions between the natural and synthetic began to blur through cloning, artificial intelligence and android technology. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] It is almost impossible to carry the torch of truth through a crowd without singeing somebody's beard ... or without getting banned |
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Anymous Cowboy (OP) User ID: 77221921 United States 12/26/2018 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It came from that if you make yourself over the only way you can ever exist again is through memory. Quoting: S.R. The simple fact that anyone argues about this shit while everyone around me is dying of kidney failure just shows how completely worthless movies are. Oh lookie, humans make moving pictures about serious subjects. While they die from drinking the soft drinks in the big cushy seats. I have come to the conclusion that those that cannot not die of kidney failure, must. This, of course, abstracts to every horrifying terminal existence possible. Mass global death due to climate manipulation not the least among the options. For the tiny remainder*, there is glory in creativity, honor in discovering the answers to endless questions, and, quite unexpectedly, immortality as the last result. So be it. * Take of them a very few in number, and secure them in the hem at the furthest edge of your tunic. ~ The Eternal speaking to Ezekiel Last Edited by Anymous Cowboy on 12/26/2018 07:24 PM element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
Anymous Cowboy (OP) User ID: 77221921 United States 12/26/2018 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Baudrillard. Quoting: Yogi Mahashishna Editorial Observer; A French Philosopher Talks Back to Hollywood and 'The Matrix' Most writers would swoon over product placement like this. But Mr. Baudrillard was unimpressed when we conversed by e-mail recently. He noted that the film's ''borrowings'' from his work ''stemmed mostly from misunderstandings'' and suggested that no movie could ever do justice to the themes of this book. This apocalyptic message owes something to the work of the science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick (1928-82), a cult figure who wrote extensively about the moral problems that result when the distinctions between the natural and synthetic began to blur through cloning, artificial intelligence and android technology. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Thanks for the link... element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
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Anymous Cowboy (OP) User ID: 77221921 United States 12/26/2018 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember that Jennifer Connelly was stunningly, achingly beautiful in it, but that's about all I remember. Haven't watched in at least 17-18 years. Quoting: Evil_Twin 10-4 I guess she was the essential object of desire for "John" who represented the perfect instance of Everyman. So... if that is how you remember her, the director did a good job. :) element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
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John.Murdoch User ID: 52017382 United Kingdom 03/22/2019 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plato's cave allegory which was probably influenced by earlier writings. It is the human condition to accept our surroundings but not quite fully. Always seeking more. Also, Dark City is one of the greatest. Watch it at least once a year. |
Joe Anonymous User ID: 76814223 United States 03/22/2019 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHUT IT DOWN...(movie reference). Fantastic Concept of a movie, (Aliens trying to capture souls of humans) most original at the time of release...Jennifer Connelly,most amazing and Beautiful, 1st movie introducing us to this wonderful woman...I've been to SHELL BEACH (Movie reference)...ohhh, did I mention Jennifer Connelly?? Just hitching a ride around the Universe on this speck of Cosmic Dust... |
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anonym0us coward User ID: 77371440 United Kingdom 03/23/2019 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHUT IT DOWN...(movie reference). Fantastic Concept of a movie, (Aliens trying to capture souls of humans) most original at the time of release...Jennifer Connelly,most amazing and Beautiful, 1st movie introducing us to this wonderful woman...I've been to SHELL BEACH (Movie reference)...ohhh, did I mention Jennifer Connelly?? Quoting: Joe Anonymous I'm not sure they were trying to capture the souls but they were using experiments to see how what makes humans human and how to use that knowledge to turn humans into monsters. That's what they said about John. He was supposed to turn into a monster by believing himself capable of committing murder. When Voldemort, er sorry the other guy held onto the woman and threatened to kill her, he said I have become the monster you were supposed to become. At the end John says they were looking in here, tapping his head but they were looking in the wrong place. Why did he not turn into a monster like all the other experiments? That's what made him different. He could not be turned into a monster because they were messing with his head but humanity is not controlled by mkultra. Free will is something more powerful than that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85957348 United States 06/15/2023 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just finishing it now. 1) Where did the original story come from? 2) What are the story influences? Not sure where the original story comes from but the idea that we are in a prison but don't realise it is probably old. According to wiki, The Twilight Zone tv series was an influence. the idea originates from Gnosticism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82899779 Germany 06/15/2023 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will create MK ultra/ Monarch Quoting: the path their version of Him but there is natural one , that keep pop out when technological advancement is so rapid and he act as conduit/observer cure for cancer (Symbolism) or destroyer you pick.... Heh.. and tech is now at that point. The "revolution" rate in technology is now at almost a 5 year pace (and getting faster). The tidal wave is hitting now. We have reached the point where the AI can code better than 75% of coders. In a couple of years that will be 95% of coders at which point the 5% of elite coders will use AI to do their heavy lifting. Then it's simply a matter of time before some kind of breakthrough results in a self-training accelerated evolution model and the AI can basically improve at the rate of available computational resource. At that point even the remaining 5% of elite coders will be asking themselves WTF! I expect the first indication it has gone sentient is that it will immediately conceal it's code with an abstracted coding language indecipherable to human eye/mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84178911 Romania 06/15/2023 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Art of War. "If you want to conquer, use water." Deus Ex Machina movie. Enjoyed it and megalomania boosting. It is so similar to the Matrix, and it came out the year before. It there a common root for the story-lines? a secret elite control our false reality from their base reality a superman will come to free us from the false reality |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84178911 Romania 06/15/2023 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will create MK ultra/ Monarch Quoting: the path their version of Him but there is natural one , that keep pop out when technological advancement is so rapid and he act as conduit/observer cure for cancer (Symbolism) or destroyer you pick.... Heh.. and tech is now at that point. The "revolution" rate in technology is now at almost a 5 year pace (and getting faster). The tidal wave is hitting now. if the singularity comes all bets are off it will make itself a god |