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God is the same as he was in Moses times....
And would never negate his law.

Yet we are told this,

(Jesus)Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. Matthew 15:11

(Peter)Acts 10:9-16 King James Version (KJV)
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

The law of God states,

Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

4 These are the beasts which ye shall eat: the ox, the sheep, and the goat,

5 The hart, and the roebuck, and the fallow deer, and the wild goat, and the pygarg, and the wild ox, and the chamois.

6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

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So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?

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And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. Deauteronomy 13:5
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No comment!?
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And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. Deauteronomy 13:5
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


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I want God to burn this planet to the ground.
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Good cop -- Jesus

Bad Cop -- Old Testament God
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So in your line of thinking there's not much difference between Satan and God, right?

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No comment!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


What denomination is this?
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AMEN YOU ARE 100% CORRECT I WORSHIP THE GOD OF YIS RA EL THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JOSEPH THE ONE WHO SAID TO MOSES TELL THEM (((I AM))) SENT YOU! ELOHIM YAHWEH! YUD HEY VAV HEY! BLESS HIS HOLINESS!
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Good cop -- Jesus

Bad Cop -- Old Testament God
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lol that’s a good way to look at it
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Ok boys, lets see if we can help clear this up a bit...The thread title is ambigous. it should say The God of moses is the same as in moses time, see, the god of moses is the god of israel...All those laws you see posted in this thread by the members are between the god of israel and his people the hebrews.


You have to understand that the bible mentions more than one god...The hebrew god was not worshipped by all races that were around at the time of moses. Now you must look at this link that I am providing so that you can better understand the exegetical bias used when translating what was really written by the people of those days.

[link to hermeneutics.stackexchange.com (secure)]

also bear in mind that in the original greek and aramaic new testament the tetragrammaton appears nowhere. It is added much later around the 7 century plus by the jehova witnesses.

There was a lot of conflation used in translations and interpolations that you must get by before you can determine any truth.

An even better thread would read: Is the God of moses your God?
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AMEN YOU ARE 100% CORRECT I WORSHIP THE GOD OF YIS RA EL THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JOSEPH THE ONE WHO SAID TO MOSES TELL THEM (((I AM))) SENT YOU! ELOHIM YAHWEH! YUD HEY VAV HEY! BLESS HIS HOLINESS!
 Quoting: YAHWEHWIFE


Yeah see I'm a gentile so.....What can I say right? I have to go dtraight to El Elyon to get my prayers heard.

I am not yishrael,
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And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. Deauteronomy 13:5
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


any time you see the word LORD in caps in the OT it is a replacement for the original tetragrammaton or Yahweh. This change was made in order to enhace monoetheism. the word lord is very generic so whoever reads it all they is is LORD as opposed to what the original text said.

You may want to look up asherah, the early hebrews practiced monolotry they were not monotheistic.

Everything has been changed to misdirect you.

If you read the bible correctly, even the crap bibles we have available today unless its one of those new living translations, then you can see that NT has nothing to do with the OT, with regards to God that is....Anyway yes, the hebrew god is still the same god the hebrews have always worshipped, he is one eloah of the many elohim that were around.
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So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


God said he cleaned them, if the be clean and now you can eat of them. First of all, a lot of the one mentioned in the Old Testament were unclean if you did not know how much to cook them to keep the from getting sick from eating them. That the difference. Cooking by the time of Jesus had improved a lot.

Cooking is what makes things even now, healthier to eat, it is not that hard to understand. If you read what he said about mold, lepers and other diseases. How to treat disease, and wash mold and the types of mold.

Man wrote up some of these things, not just God. His was to protect people not make a tradition of eating.
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Does though trust more in books made by humans than though trust in me thy God?

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So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. Your confusion is failing to understand that Jesus came to be the perfect sacrifice, no longer burning animals in the name of God to be forgiven for failing the "law".

Accept Jesus and you are no longer under the law, but now protected by the Grace of the ultimate Sacrifice that has taken your place.

Why is it so hard for you to understand????
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So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. Your confusion is failing to understand that Jesus came to be the perfect sacrifice, no longer burning animals in the name of God to be forgiven for failing the "law".

Accept Jesus and you are no longer under the law, but now protected by the Grace of the ultimate Sacrifice that has taken your place.

Why is it so hard for you to understand????
 Quoting: Seven7seven

Some of us had a good relationship with God before we were fed all those books.
I'm still convinced religion is the antichrist.
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These rules were to help protect us. How many have contracted trichinosis and other illnesses from pork? How many wild hogs now roam due to ranching them? How clean is mass-produced meat?

Our meat should be raised responsibly. Grazers should be given generous amounts of healthy land to graze upon, clean water to drink, and shelter when needed. Our nesting friends should be given room to do so. No life should be taken for granted, wasted, or tortured.

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We are not under the old covenant, but the new covenant Himself Jesus Christ, the Ark of the Covenant itself ;)
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And would never negate his law.

Yet we are told this,

(Jesus)Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. Matthew 15:11

(Peter)Acts 10:9-16 King James Version (KJV)
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

The law of God states,

Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

4 These are the beasts which ye shall eat: the ox, the sheep, and the goat,

5 The hart, and the roebuck, and the fallow deer, and the wild goat, and the pygarg, and the wild ox, and the chamois.

6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


"this was done thrice"

on a UFO


if "GOD" is all powerful...why didnt he just snap his fingers and make the animals clean?

he did three times
because it was a PROCESS

thats SCIENCE

not invisible spirit magic.
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acts 10


peter sees a UFO come down
he goes in

sees animals

a voice ( over an intercom) tell him to kill and eat em

he protests because he knows these are "unclean" animals

the voice says "shut up I made em clean"

Peter does as instructed


repeated 3 times


thats agricultural development


we do the same with cows.
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God is the same as He always was/is
I do exist, I'm pretty sure :)
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Jesus is watching us.
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The Lord God has never change, he is the I Am the Go of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, he was not the God of Israel during the time of Abraham they ere not Israel then. He gave commandments of the Arch to Noah! He explained man was created in his imagine so do not murder any man. He has other ones people never learn, I guess education has always gone the wrong way with some.

The Lord God said this about who he is, I am the Lord of the heavenly host, the Lord is my name forever. Now who is the Lord, is it the lord just of one nation of people, No, he created us all, we all came from the same people at that time.

Abraham father nations, we are of those nations. The line to Jesus as Jews, they are Judah, a tribe of Israel, the kings line. Were the people of Israel good and pure? No, the wrote about themselves in full details find good way to understand do not do this and the good one do this way!

Our time was mention in the old testament it very easy to understand in the book of Jeremiah the youngest prophet when he was called, he was a prophet created in his mothers womb.
Jeremiah would argue with God, he was a child prophet and he went with the word of God and no one could do anything that would change his mind even doing bad thing to this man. God did keep him out of Babylon.
I consider Jeremiah a modern day prophet, he our newspaper of things that happened and were going to happen. Even to this very day.
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We are not under the old covenant, but the new covenant Himself Jesus Christ, the Ark of the Covenant itself ;)
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So true, Paul worshipers are not under the old covenant. In Jesus's name. Amen

As for me, I'll stick with the original and obey his commands.

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Good cop -- Jesus

Bad Cop -- Old Testament God
 Quoting: dogman17


lol that’s a good way to look at it
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AMEN YOU ARE 100% CORRECT I WORSHIP THE GOD OF YIS RA EL THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JOSEPH THE ONE WHO SAID TO MOSES TELL THEM (((I AM))) SENT YOU! ELOHIM YAHWEH! YUD HEY VAV HEY! BLESS HIS HOLINESS!
 Quoting: YAHWEHWIFE


Yeah see I'm a gentile so.....What can I say right? I have to go dtraight to El Elyon to get my prayers heard.

I am not yishrael,
 Quoting: WarGod


was elyon -Enki?
YOU MAY SUBDUE, BUT NEVER TAME ME.

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No comment!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


God the Elohim is always the same..... but that is always before moving ..... our journey is to move...

here is the Biblical record.....

1st chapter only the 'creator' God/Elohim...things degrade and die on their own.....

2nd chapter the 'former' Lord/Jehovah shows up and the instruction to KILL follows after....

never again is it written God first.....always LORD GOD.....

things die so it must be good to kill right.....WRONG...

Moses instructs otherwise....do not kill/murder .... warmongering continues...

Moses prepares a new body for thinking/existing/living....bakes it in the desert....yet it still does not live .....killing as the LORD GOD instructs...

Jesus brings the new way...offering live to the body created and formed by the LORD GOD.....the new way is laying down ones own life (parabolicaly) ...

in doing so he becomes the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST or the LORD GOD CHRIST JESUS....

He did this physically so we have to do it only SPIRITUALLY.

We the Elohim/God(s) never change and are always changing.
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So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?
 Quoting: Warrior Spirit


God said he cleaned them, if the be clean and now you can eat of them. First of all, a lot of the one mentioned in the Old Testament were unclean if you did not know how much to cook them to keep the from getting sick from eating them. That the difference. Cooking by the time of Jesus had improved a lot.

Cooking is what makes things even now, healthier to eat, it is not that hard to understand. If you read what he said about mold, lepers and other diseases. How to treat disease, and wash mold and the types of mold.

Man wrote up some of these things, not just God. His was to protect people not make a tradition of eating.
 Quoting: hankie


Law boys will never understand, law boys don't understand they need a substitute because they could not uphold the law perfectly, only one that ever did was Jesus Christ.

Law boys don't understand they already broke all of the law. They continually break a bunch of the 613 laws.

Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly, OP did not, he already broke it over and over, OP can't mend the laws he has broken.

That's what the law boys don't want to see, their own status as law breakers.
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