God is the same as he was in Moses times....

So true, Paul worshipers are not under the old covenant. In Jesus's name. Amen

As for me, I'll stick with the original and obey his commands.

But you already broke all of the law, are you ready to pay for you breaking the law over and over?
Or will you look for a substitute?

That's where God the Son comes in, the substitute for you breaking the law. You do not possess the payment for your crimes, because the payment for your crimes is eternal death.

So you going to ask Jesus to pay for your crimes or will you pay for them yourself?
We already know you're a sinner (law breaker), if you say you're not we'll just ask the people that know you, they will tell us about many of the times that you broke the law.

So you going to pay for your crimes or ask for the sin offering offered for you?

Choose wisely. It's all yours to make, now you're on the spot though. Same goes for OP and the rest of the law boys and gals.

But you already broke all of the law, are you ready to pay for you breaking the law over and over?
Or will you look for a substitute?

That's where God the Son comes in, the substitute for you breaking the law. You do not possess the payment for your crimes, because the payment for your crimes is eternal death.

So you going to ask Jesus to pay for your crimes or will you pay for them yourself?
We already know you're a sinner (law breaker), if you say you're not we'll just ask the people that know you, they will tell us about many of the times that you broke the law.

So you going to pay for your crimes or ask for the sin offering offered for you?

Choose wisely. It's all yours to make, now you're on the spot though. Same goes for OP and the rest of the law boys and gals.

It is exactly as you say brother! NO ONE is immune, ALL have broken the law. Who pays for you????

(this has nothing to do with this thread but it just made me think about this scene in the movie when you've been calling out the "lawbreaker's" lol ;^)

Good cop -- Jesus

Bad Cop -- Old Testament God

And would never negate his law.

Yet we are told this,

(Jesus)Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. Matthew 15:11

(Peter)Acts 10:9-16 King James Version (KJV)
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

The law of God states,

Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

4 These are the beasts which ye shall eat: the ox, the sheep, and the goat,

5 The hart, and the roebuck, and the fallow deer, and the wild goat, and the pygarg, and the wild ox, and the chamois.

6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

I see where your getting that idea. However its flawed when ya really read the whole context of God and His Word.

its really not like a heavy trying to soften a suspect and then allowing the other one to be like the sympathetic friend. That is a "tactic" and even a deceptive one.

God however is clear, direct and no respecter of persons...

even Peter understood

ACTS 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

OP is missing the rest of the story...Acts 10:17-34.

Don't pretend to know me. I have not broken all of the law and I repented that which I have. I no longer break the law. You see, His mercy endureth forever. I will take responsibility for what I've done and no, there is no substitute.

Paul says all men are sinners, that's a Paul thing. I strive for righteousness.

So who was telling the Truth!? Is God a liar!? Have you been decieved by the false prophet that Deuteronomy warned about. That would lead you into idolatry and to follow after other gods!? Have you!?

LOL .. legalists

You failed (just like all of us) in striving for righteousness through obedience to the Law.

The Law was not given to provide righteousness, rather to show you your condition.

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!

Righteousness can only be given (by Jesus) and not earned

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The Law is like a mirror to show you that you are unclean;
you don't wash your face with the mirror!

LOL .. legalists

You failed (just like all of us) in striving for righteousness through obedience to the Law.

The Law was not given to provide righteousness, rather to show you your condition.

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!

Righteousness can only be given (by Jesus) and not earned

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The Law is like a mirror to show you that you are unclean;
you don't wash your face with the mirror!

I'm sorry you don't understand the law and yes, I live by it. You, on the other hand, have an avatar that strictly breaks the 2nd Commandment. We worship two different gods so it really doesn't matter.

You are a liar if you think you keep the Law.
Read my post above again.


Acts 13:10

"You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord?"

Where's the REST OF THE PASSAGE of Acts 10?

What does the WHOLE story end up as?

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

You idiots don't even understand. You just want it all without actually doing anything!

You are farcical!

you talk loud ..... what is the will of Our Father?

Faith in Christ is our righteousness.

Do you dispute Jesus words!?

Every person is given a measure of faith...

Rom 12:3

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

according to your statement/belief all men are righteous....NOT SO!

Not at all..... but men..... all the time..... Question remains....

What is the will of My/Our Father? The answer means something.... men believe many things will they do is 'his will'....thus the 'LORD, Lord' comment....