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Triceratops User ID: 76432271 United States 01/01/2019 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the progress spiral self-correcting. In reality, we should have reached totality by now. Nikola Tesla came dangerously close, so that explains why all his research was buried and everyone is so quick to jump all over it today. As our technology gets more advanced, it lets us create ever-more complex technology. Since more complex tech is always in demand, it's priced quite high, as corporate execs see the spiral closing in and trying to tie their wallets (Infinite tech progress = infinite cash flow), but as people only have so much money and can only buy so much new tech before they have to stop, tech companies slow down production and wait for consumers to catch up, as it's also quite costly to produce ever more complex tech (between manufacturing and research costs). Essentially, the economy is throttling our technological prowess. Ring a Rancid Rhyme |
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Truth Reaper User ID: 75955494 United States 01/01/2019 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Truth Reaper on 01/01/2019 12:58 PM I lost my apathy. |
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Phrygian User ID: 76841866 United States 01/01/2019 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer Compressing. You need one to one and a half generation immersed on the "new" tech to devise a distinguishable "other new" tech. You get the internet, but those first users. Only now you got generations growing with the magnitude of connectedness the now days internet implies. It has been compressing thru-out the last years. ...to the point where multiple A.I.s feed from. conceptual stepping stones upon each other. mind bending. om tat sat om |
Le Comte de Saint Germain User ID: 46333848 United States 01/01/2019 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer because Mr Rothschild says so and what'ya gonna do 'bout it, bucko? |
Pat_McCrotch User ID: 76370031 United States 01/01/2019 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer It hasnt...most advancement is software related and AI based. Pat_McCrotch :chuckle: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59669941 United States 01/01/2019 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer Compressing. You need one to one and a half generation immersed on the "new" tech to devise a distinguishable "other new" tech. You get the internet, but those first users. Only now you got generations growing with the magnitude of connectedness the now days internet implies. It has been compressing thru-out the last years. ...to the point where multiple A.I.s feed from. conceptual stepping stones upon each other. mind bending. Wow I'll have to think about that one. I think I get it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59669941 United States 01/01/2019 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer It hasnt...most advancement is software related and AI based. I don't see it. AI has been around for decades, we now have computational capacity to run them at scale, but that is improvement of more of the same. And the AI winter is coming, because the models are starting to hit deterministic asymptotic limitations, particularly around bias. They say quantum AI will address these limitations... |
WorkingWithChrist User ID: 19126618 United States 01/01/2019 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the masses are idiots and literally never demand ANYTHING. Not even justice for the children being trafficked all over the country. People dont demand Anything anymore at all... We just accept whatever they give us. IF we rallied in the streets n stopped going to work/shopping at stores, they would give us new technology by the morning.. Guided by Christ & The Holy Spirit |
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Eyeball Replacement User ID: 76735272 United States 01/01/2019 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer We’ve made the weakest link in humans equal to the strongest link. It’s all backwards in time from here. In the eye of the storm ... |
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74444 User ID: 74444 United States 01/01/2019 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer If you look at human history as a whole, progress was *much* slower in the past. The last century is an aberration. That said, in the last 50 years, MRI's, outpatient pacemakers, laparoscopic surgery, *much* has improved in the medical field alone. The mapping of the human genome is a staggering achievement. We are seeing mass-produced electric cars finally making a blip on the proverbial radar. Alternative ways of producing electricity are finally commercially viable. Dubai's solar array is insanely powerful. We still haven't found a better way than chemical rockets to orbit, but the re-usability of said rockets is an amazing achievement. So, perhaps the speed and trajectory is relative. Maybe we're just in a less splashy phase. |
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ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator 01/01/2019 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because we feed the useless eaters. No one has an incentive anymore because they are sucking the government dick. One day that shit is going to stop and it's not going to be pretty. Quoting: Truth Reaper Incentive is a big part of it, to be sure, as are immediate human needs. Incentive in that there's much more $$$ in convincing millions of people that they *need* the newest generation of $1000 iPhone, than there is in producing Jetson's-style flying cars, for example. Human needs come into play in that, when there's a *need*, like transportation faster than horses to support growing populations and commerce or air travel for the same reason, or mass-production of food or a multitude of other innovations, people will, by necessity, devote intellectual currency, real currency, and manpower to accomplish those tasks. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59669941 United States 01/01/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer If you look at human history as a whole, progress was *much* slower in the past. The last century is an aberration. That said, in the last 50 years, MRI's, outpatient pacemakers, laparoscopic surgery, *much* has improved in the medical field alone. The mapping of the human genome is a staggering achievement. We are seeing mass-produced electric cars finally making a blip on the proverbial radar. Alternative ways of producing electricity are finally commercially viable. Dubai's solar array is insanely powerful. We still haven't found a better way than chemical rockets to orbit, but the re-usability of said rockets is an amazing achievement. So, perhaps the speed and trajectory is relative. Maybe we're just in a less splashy phase. Perhaps. I've considered this as well. Something still does not add up, maybe its just me. |
Rev Woo-Woo User ID: 9906941 United States 01/01/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It hasn’t stopped. It’s just not for the unwashed masses. The tech the government and elite have is said to be 50 to 500 years more advanced than what the general public is aware of. “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21302620 United States 01/01/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because we feed the useless eaters. No one has an incentive anymore because they are sucking the government dick. One day that shit is going to stop and it's not going to be pretty. Quoting: Truth Reaper They can’t let us advance. And without a shift in dimensions we can’t move to crystal systems. And folks don’t realize Moore’s law only applied to computer systems and chips are maxed out due to quantum issues. Hence dual core to quad core to etc. And dwave is useless without new dimension physics. Which I am sure all the wrong folks have. |
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Watcher of the End Game User ID: 77080148 United States 01/01/2019 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humanity is giving birth to the AI This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task. Acting just like a child would. Depending on how paranoid you are, this research from Stanford and Google will be either terrifying or fascinating Technology in progress [link to techcrunch.com (secure)] |
Pat_McCrotch User ID: 76370031 United States 01/01/2019 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer It hasnt...most advancement is software related and AI based. I don't see it. AI has been around for decades, we now have computational capacity to run them at scale, but that is improvement of more of the same. And the AI winter is coming, because the models are starting to hit deterministic asymptotic limitations, particularly around bias. They say quantum AI will address these limitations... You dont see it because you arent in the industry...or have the proper clearances. Pat_McCrotch :chuckle: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 01/01/2019 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or at least slowed down? In the literature are discussions of exponential intelligence, nearly all of human knowledge available at the fingertips of anyone who would seek it. Yet our transportation system is no different than 100 years ago, one step beyond horse, buggy, and steam carriage still burning fossil fuels, the space program still using chemical rockets, the medical field does not seem to have advanced much in the last 50 years, etc. If you step back and look at the dips of technology innovation versus the progress that should be, what is going on? I'm not saying there are no advancements (eyephones and related bullshit), but it does not line up with the speed and trajectory that is possible. Quoting: VoidWhisperer Because technological advances in the hands of Humanity helps to break free from the slavery to demonic forces. It had to be stopped or slowed down so dark forces would keep upper hand. In higher power realms progress was never stopped it was just highly classified. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59669941 United States 01/01/2019 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humanity is giving birth to the AI Quoting: Watcher of the End Game This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task. Acting just like a child would. Depending on how paranoid you are, this research from Stanford and Google will be either terrifying or fascinating Technology in progress [link to techcrunch.com (secure)] In the AI literature there is the notion of 'soft takeoff' and 'hard takeoff'. I tend to think it may be soft at first, where we are now, and then the hard disruption. There are several examples of intended effects like this example, the google and microsoft chatbots that turned into nazis, the facebook one that invented its own protocol that no one but the bots could understand. This is the folly of not considering emergent behaviors in this universe from deterministic systems. Chaos theory and fractals are the root of this. Is there a planetary AI limiting or controlling evolution, hiding things...could be. |