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Sandy Hook: The Spreadsheet - Analysis and Problems

 
Zefyr
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I only saw the spreadsheet (if in fact it's a genuine representation) a few hours ago.

First reactions:

What font is that? Strikes me as potentially from an Asian country (this is just gut reaction here; I'm trying to analyze the font more closely).

Row 88 (Sibusiso Mandubela) shows part of a character (the final 'a' of Mandubela) missing (why? Is this a physically-scanned copy of a printout?)

Why so much data from China? Are all of these Chinese nationals known publicly (or does this aspect of the spreadsheet betray its country of origin?)

EDIT: The other docs in the collection (I guess I'd better link it: [link to archive.org (secure)] also have that weird font.

Could be that lawyers from the state purposely put everything in a generic font, to stall forensic analysis, including chronology.

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Note the geographical term "province" instead of "state" (or "state/province."

Whoever created this wasn't from the US, is my guess.

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Also note the terms "civilians," "police," "military."

This sounds like a law enforcement, military, or government insider's writing, possibly.
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Also, "tram stop" lol and "sawn-off shotgun."

It's official: This document originates (or was adapted) from a non-US source.

EDIT: This spreadsheet seems to reference (and perhaps this is stipulated) Murderpedia, and the Murderpedia entries include terms such as "tram stop," for example.

However, in the case of Eric Harris + Dylan Klebold, the spreadsheet creator opts for "sawn-off Savage 67H," even though the original Murderpedia entry uses "sawed-off" and "sawed" exclusively.

The spreadsheet author clearly prefers the non-US term, using "sawn-off exclusively.

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Interesting: Spreadsheet author prefers the alas "Jiverly Voong" to the Murderpedia primary name, "Jiverly Wong."

Attempt by Chinese author to de-Sinicize as many names as possible (given the staggering percentage of ethnic Chinese Murderpedia entries?)

And--wait for it--the first Chinese national on the spreadsheet, Tian Mingjian, is in 10th position. BUT - the spreadsheet author gives "23 killed" and "scores" injured, whereas Wikipedia has 29 killed and 30-80 injured (was it hard to tell??)

If Wikipedia is correct, our Tian Minjian should be in 8th or 9th position.

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So the "killed by civilians" phrase (and references to civilian) is missing from the Murderpedia collection. Ergo, whoever is creating the spreadsheet is referencing "civilians" on their own accord.

By the way, why are there no explosion murders listed? So far it's only guns, knives, vehicles, defenestration, hammer, wrench, etc.

So the guy who threw one person out of a window is in "Adam's mass killing spreadsheet," but Timothy McVeigh (or whoever) is not??
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Also, there are no entries beyond 2010.

Really? The "crazy mass murderer obsessed with mass murder" completely lost interest in this spreadsheet for two solid years before trying to become a "famous mass murderer?"
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Your link is dead.

I've been saying for 5 years that China was involved. the newtown bee website went to chinese characters that day, they supposedly were having cultural exchange program (pictures on school website), Lanza was studying Mandarin and some Chinese instrument (heard both), the connections with the big helicopter contract in CT etc etc. They are literally everywhere, including roomates (?) or sub-lessors of a house where Vabner-whatshername (UN lawyer mom). Its an endless wormhole.

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Your link is dead.

I've been saying for 5 years that China was involved. the newtown bee website went to chinese characters that day, they supposedly were having cultural exchange program (pictures on school website), Lanza was studying Mandarin and some Chinese instrument (heard both), the connections with the big helicopter contract in CT etc etc. They are literally everywhere, including roomates (?) or sub-lessors of a house where Vabner-whatshername (UN lawyer mom). Its an endless wormhole.
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So China was in on sandy hoax?
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Your link is dead.

I've been saying for 5 years that China was involved. the newtown bee website went to chinese characters that day, they supposedly were having cultural exchange program (pictures on school website), Lanza was studying Mandarin and some Chinese instrument (heard both), the connections with the big helicopter contract in CT etc etc. They are literally everywhere, including roomates (?) or sub-lessors of a house where Vabner-whatshername (UN lawyer mom). Its an endless wormhole.
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So China was in on sandy hoax?
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well we do know that on the same day as ShadyHoax there was a crazy knife weilding Chinese fella at an elementary school somewhere in China, slashing and appeared to be trying to hurt children. But it looked so staged?! If you can find the video/youtube take a look......
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Your link is dead.

I've been saying for 5 years that China was involved. the newtown bee website went to chinese characters that day, they supposedly were having cultural exchange program (pictures on school website), Lanza was studying Mandarin and some Chinese instrument (heard both), the connections with the big helicopter contract in CT etc etc. They are literally everywhere, including roomates (?) or sub-lessors of a house where Vabner-whatshername (UN lawyer mom). Its an endless wormhole.
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So China was in on sandy hoax?
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


well we do know that on the same day as ShadyHoax there was a crazy knife weilding Chinese fella at an elementary school somewhere in China, slashing and appeared to be trying to hurt children. But it looked so staged?! If you can find the video/youtube take a look......
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COMPLETE CRAP

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Your link is dead.

I've been saying for 5 years that China was involved. the newtown bee website went to chinese characters that day, they supposedly were having cultural exchange program (pictures on school website), Lanza was studying Mandarin and some Chinese instrument (heard both), the connections with the big helicopter contract in CT etc etc. They are literally everywhere, including roomates (?) or sub-lessors of a house where Vabner-whatshername (UN lawyer mom). Its an endless wormhole.
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Yikes - I wonder why it was taken down?

In trying to understand who else might have created a spreadsheet including the fields "province" and "ending" (oy), I found another site that links to the "Lanza" spreadsheet, so let's try using that for now--probably a more stable source:

This is the PDF itself, from that site: [link to schoolshooters.info (secure)]

And this is the Lanza page on that site: [link to schoolshooters.info (secure)]

I did a Wayback search and it looks like the infamous spreadsheet was added recently. I was surprised to see the Archive.org site (until now).
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So the language of the spreadsheet is very UK/AUS/NZ/CA; it could also be from (for example) an Asian source which leans toward that brand of English (say, China).

So, things to investigate:

1. Who else in the world uses this collection of field titles (if anyone?)

2. Note certain fields that jump out:

a. "province" instead of "state"
b. "endings" to indicate how it ended (this is odd English; possibly translated from another language)
c. "firearms" as a separate field from "weapons" - this field concentrates on how a weapon was acquired--interesting
d. "sawn-off" instead of "sawed-off;" again, non-American source
e. Why no explosions/bombing field?

3. Is there evidence of attempt to de-Sinicize?

4. You gun people here: aside from "sawn-off," can we learn anything from the author's choice of firearm lingo?
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Archive.org link wasn't bad - I mis-entered it.

Here it is again (this contains documents in addition to the spreadsheet) [link to archive.org (secure)]

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Note that the "firearms" field is also odd English, possibly non-Native.

No grammar-obsessed "Adam Lanza" would use "firearms" as a field name that also includes knives, and refers not even to weapon type but to HOW the weapon was acquired. It's botchy and clumsy, and this guy on the other hand goes into literal tirades at other people for not using logical English. So--this ain't him.
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IF the author of Sandy Hook Lighthouse is on the right track with his theoretical tracking of "Lanza," then there does seem to be a hit in cross-referencing the current spreadsheet, and Wikipedia users Kaynbred, Smiggles, and KnaveSmig.

Lo and behold, Kaynbred uses "sawn-off."

[link to sandyhooklighthouse.wordpress.com (secure)]

SHL's bit on KnaveSmig is interesting:

On a particular Wikipedia user’s “Talk” page, just after midnight UTC on June 20th 2012 (or June 19 at 8:20pm, Newtown time) another user posted links to an Excel file they had uploaded, describing the spreadsheet file as their custom “mass murderer list.” The message was posted under the username “KnaveSmig”.

[link to sandyhooklighthouse.wordpress.com (secure)]

Now look at one excerpt from this alleged post by "Lanza."

"Compared to the legions of people who focus solely on serial killers, it’s almost impossible to find anyone who’s interested in mass murderers, so I thought that I might as well introduce myself. I’ve been researching this topic since 2006 and I started compiling a formal list at the beginning of 2010. We basically use the same criteria, but the main difference is that I leniently define “mass murders” as involving a minimum of four casualties, whether through deaths or injuries.

Even if I could hope to be as thorough as you are, my list isn’t meant to be a comprehensive chronicle as much as it’s meant to help with answering statistical questions— albeit rather poorly since it really should be twice its current size. But if it weren’t for you, “twice” would be closer to “thrice”. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were responsible for 1/4 of my list, let alone the boundless complementary information you’ve provided on the other mass murderers. You’ve been incredibly helpful here.

I haven’t had the motivation to do much with my list since its first few months, and it’s currently in a mid-revision state, so the whole thing really isn’t much of anything to be excited about; but if you want to see it, here it is in all its mediocrity:

(dead link removed)
"

00:20, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

The second message followed about 25min after, pointing out a mistake on the spreadsheet:

"Wow, ignore the negligent formatting error which placed Anders Breivik below William Unek. What an appropriate testament to my incompetency."


NOTE: In the spreadsheet provided to the public allegedly from Adam Lanza's (presumably most recent) copy, Anders Breivik is missing.
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Where is the spreadsheet in that link?

1 Adventures_of_Granny
2 Grannys_Clubhouse_of_Happy_Children
3 Lovebound
4 School_Photos
5 Shooting_Target
6 The_Big_Book_of_Granny
7 colgam01
8 me (1)
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Where is the spreadsheet in that link?

1 Adventures_of_Granny
2 Grannys_Clubhouse_of_Happy_Children
3 Lovebound
4 School_Photos
5 Shooting_Target
6 The_Big_Book_of_Granny
7 colgam01
8 me (1)
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Dude. Seriously :)

Go through those docs. I guarantee you it's there.

Okay whatever I'm a softie. It's colgam01.

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Where is the spreadsheet in that link?

1 Adventures_of_Granny
2 Grannys_Clubhouse_of_Happy_Children
3 Lovebound
4 School_Photos
5 Shooting_Target
6 The_Big_Book_of_Granny
7 colgam01
8 me (1)
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Dude. Seriously :)

Go through those docs. I guarantee you it's there.

Okay whatever I'm a softie. It's colgam01.
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Oh...duh. It was right in the link that said "Spreadsheet". ;-)

Thanks...
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Where is the spreadsheet in that link?

1 Adventures_of_Granny
2 Grannys_Clubhouse_of_Happy_Children
3 Lovebound
4 School_Photos
5 Shooting_Target
6 The_Big_Book_of_Granny
7 colgam01
8 me (1)
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Dude. Seriously :)

Go through those docs. I guarantee you it's there.

Okay whatever I'm a softie. It's colgam01.
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Oh...duh. It was right in the link that said "Spreadsheet". ;-)

Thanks...
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Sorry, I have no idea now why I was so snippy. My apologies! [reddens]
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Where is the spreadsheet in that link?

1 Adventures_of_Granny
2 Grannys_Clubhouse_of_Happy_Children
3 Lovebound
4 School_Photos
5 Shooting_Target
6 The_Big_Book_of_Granny
7 colgam01
8 me (1)
 Quoting: name withheld


Dude. Seriously :)

Go through those docs. I guarantee you it's there.

Okay whatever I'm a softie. It's colgam01.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Oh...duh. It was right in the link that said "Spreadsheet". ;-)

Thanks...
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Sorry, I have no idea now why I was so snippy. My apologies! [reddens]
 Quoting: Zefyr


Never is an apology necessary! ;-)

I, admittedly, hadn't been through all of the links on that page. I appreciate your diligence, veracity, and point of view when it comes to SH.