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I'm not understanding why the government has to take the land to put a fence on it. Rather than taking the land the government could simply put an 'easement' on the land which would not take any land from anyone.
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Ya same here, i dont see why they dont use this bollard style fence and put it right down the middle of the river. Fish will still be able to swim in between and butterflies can still fly through.
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Wonder if those upset are profiting from no wall in some way?
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Sure, they are. The Democrats gets new voters, some businesses get cheap labor, and the NGOs get government money to take care of them.
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This jackass said he 'wouldn't accept millions' if the government compensated him for eminent domain.

He's making a political statement. Just another virtue signaling libtard.

tard
 Quoting: McShillin


He actually said, "...a trillion dollars." The man owns 64 acres, probably not worth more than a couple hundred thousand, if that, and that's all he's gonna get when the government condemns his migrant ranch.
 Quoting: Revbo™




It will be fairly appraised at the value of it's highest and best use. Which in this case is farmland dirt.... 1-2,000 per acre.... best case. Unless borderland is more valuable for it's location than I'm aware.

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Yeah, I was being generous. His little migrant camp is probably more in the neighborhood of a hundred thousand or so.
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Yeah, I know. Wasn't trying to argue, sorry if you thought that, just explaining the actual process of eminent domain.

And I gotta say there has probably never been a better reason for taking anyone's land than for this reason.... border security. Beats building a shopping center to raise the tax base in the area or some other such reason.

The dude will have no choice... or the illegal tenants. And you can bet this is an illegal operation.... zoning wise and other ways.
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I'm not one for the government just taking or using eminent domain to get their way but I say take all their shit. If she doesn't care about Americans and their safety then who does she care for? Deport her ass too.
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Eloisa Cavazos ought to look into how her favorite Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, voted on eminent domain.

According to RBG, the government can literally take her property for any reason it wants to!

It was the majority decision with only "extreme right wingers" dissenting.

Enjoy your cake, bitch.

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This jackass said he 'wouldn't accept millions' if the government compensated him for eminent domain.

He's making a political statement. Just another virtue signaling libtard.

tard
 Quoting: McShillin


He actually said, "...a trillion dollars." The man owns 64 acres, probably not worth more than a couple hundred thousand, if that, and that's all he's gonna get when the government condemns his migrant ranch.
 Quoting: Revbo™


he is probably an illegal immigrant trafficker.

we have a couple in my town that "help" all the illegals get jobs/translate for them/etc.
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


And drug trafficker- Lawd know what makes between the 2 businesses!

Interesting that you have "known people in your town" that helps them out. I know they aren't all bad but still. The impact they have accross the country is bad, from the minor hit & runs to welfare abuse, drug running and murdering. If they are here legally I agree with helping but not otherwise.
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the man had to KNOW, when he bought the land, that it was on the border

- when I was a kid, there was a stretch of land on either side of the border" ... called "no man's land" ... I have no idea when they started selling that land, but that was a real stupid move ... because it provided enough space for roads on either side of a fence ...if they ever decided to build one ... and it avoided the need for "emanate domain" because NO ONE OWNS it


this guy needs to STFU ...
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I'm not understanding why the government has to take the land to put a fence on it. Rather than taking the land the government could simply put an 'easement' on the land which would not take any land from anyone.
 Quoting: Paul Drake


Ya same here, i dont see why they dont use this bollard style fence and put it right down the middle of the river. Fish will still be able to swim in between and butterflies can still fly through.
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Sounds great to me but I bet the EPA would have a shit fit at the idea!
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Hidalgo is notoriously full of illegals. It's no damn wonder they're against it. You should see the amount of vehicles that line the streets waiting for coyote drop-offs. I've seen them in hordes come running out of the brush & into parked vehicles waiting for them to take them through the checkpoint further north. And nobody does a damn thing about it. I have not ONCE seen these vehicles towed, ticketed, stopped, inspected, etc. NOT ONCE & I've lived here over a decade.
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Eminent Domain, or establishment easement rights along the border.
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If there was ever a case for Eminent Domain, this is it. Protection of its citizens is the first responsibility of the federal government. If they can invoke ED to build a condo where some old lady has had her home for 50 years, they can sure do it here.
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Unfortunately, this could be the spark that starts a Civil War.
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Unfortunately, this could be the spark that starts a Civil War.
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I can live with that. If the left wants a war over open borders, let us tell our great-grandchildren that in the history books, that one side wanted to protect the country and the other side wanted to give it away, and rest assured, we WILL be writing the history books when this is over.
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I wonder what rules apply in the 100 mile border zone.

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This jackass said he 'wouldn't accept millions' if the government compensated him for eminent domain.

He's making a political statement. Just another virtue signaling libtard.

tard
 Quoting: McShillin


He actually said, "...a trillion dollars." The man owns 64 acres, probably not worth more than a couple hundred thousand, if that, and that's all he's gonna get when the government condemns his migrant ranch.
 Quoting: Revbo™


he is probably an illegal immigrant trafficker.

we have a couple in my town that "help" all the illegals get jobs/translate for them/etc.
 Quoting: 1-2-Follow


And drug trafficker- Lawd know what makes between the 2 businesses!

Interesting that you have "known people in your town" that helps them out. I know they aren't all bad but still. The impact they have accross the country is bad, from the minor hit & runs to welfare abuse, drug running and murdering. If they are here legally I agree with helping but not otherwise.
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i don't know them personally ( i wouldn't deal with someone doing such a thing and maybe "trafficking" is the wrong word to use), just everyone knows who they are and what they do in getting illegals into town and finding them work, etc.

a bunch of them got ran out of town a couple months ago and quite a few businesses lost a lot of their workforce.

the mexican population has drastically increased in my small town the last few years. they all seem to come from the same areas as well.

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2 words..

Eminent domain

Eminent domain is the RIGHT of the Government to seize any property they deem necessary for the conversion of said land into PUBLIC LAND.

They get paid for said land (fair market value), everyone is a winner.

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Eminent Domain, or establishment easement rights along the border.
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This jackass said he 'wouldn't accept millions' if the government compensated him for eminent domain.

He's making a political statement. Just another virtue signaling libtard.

tard
 Quoting: McShillin


He actually said, "...a trillion dollars." The man owns 64 acres, probably not worth more than a couple hundred thousand, if that, and that's all he's gonna get when the government condemns his migrant ranch.
 Quoting: Revbo™




It will be fairly appraised at the value of it's highest and best use. Which in this case is farmland dirt.... 1-2,000 per acre.... best case. Unless borderland is more valuable for it's location than I'm aware.

God bless our President.
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Id be proud to have that wall running through my front yard and would make part of the bargain I struck that I could decorate my portion in a patriotic fashion! maybe even do it up so sweet that people all over the country come to see it!!cheers Top of the Morning to my brother Scott Free!!!! Love you lots brada!!!flag wavermash4077-p0int
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Unfortunately, this could be the spark that starts a Civil War.
 Quoting: Draxx them Sklounst


I can live with that. If the left wants a war over open borders, let us tell our great-grandchildren that in the history books, that one side wanted to protect the country and the other side wanted to give it away, and rest assured, we WILL be writing the history books when this is over.
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Cavazos needs some investigation on him, he making a cut from the Coyote's, getting some of that young Spicy Latina Tail, or getting his drugs free from the drug runners...

it aint about the money dontcha know!?

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Wall around their property, leaving them on the Mexican side.
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applause

Problem solved
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I like it. He's Mexican anyway. Probably renting to illegals.
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They are part of the USA, they only border the border which the USA government controls, it belongs to all the USA in this way. It protects us all. To claim this is stupid, there is a bad fence up in some areas called a border fence what wrong with the AP people?
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Eminent Domain, or establishment easement rights along the border.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


All Trump has to do is skip these peoples property and once all the traffic starts coming in and destroying his property and one of his children is violated, he will be begging for a wall.
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Cavazos needs some investigation on him, he making a cut from the Coyote's, getting some of that young Spicy Latina Tail, or getting his drugs free from the drug runners...

it aint about the money dontcha know!?

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Fuck them, take their ranches bulldoze the s.o.b. give them pennies on the dollar and deport them. Anti-american cocksuckers can go drink bacteria infested diahrrea water in Mexico if they love that shit so much.
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Eminent Domain, or establishment easement rights along the border.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


All Trump has to do is skip these peoples property and once all the traffic starts coming in and destroying his property and one of his children is violated, he will be begging for a wall.
 Quoting: VigilantTexan


Yup! Or just park ice there and ruin his burrito business

from OP's link above:

“You could give me a trillion dollars and I wouldn’t take it,” said Cavazos, whose land sits along the Rio Grande, the river separating the U.S. and Mexico in Texas. “It’s not about money.”

so what is it about Liberals... Orangeman bad?

or you want desperate Latinos up your arse?
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Fuck them, take their ranches bulldoze the s.o.b. give them pennies on the dollar and deport them. Anti-american cocksuckers can go drink bacteria infested diahrrea water in Mexico if they love that shit so much.
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This jackass said he 'wouldn't accept millions' if the government compensated him for eminent domain.

He's making a political statement. Just another virtue signaling libtard.

tard
 Quoting: McShillin


Eloisa Cavazos

good luck trying to get me to believe that people have their house on the fucking border. i'm sure 99.9% of people who live near the border KNOW the problem is massive and support a wall.
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She's probably earning a nice income working with coyotes and cartel smugglers.
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A wall is not just a BAD idea for parts of Texas, it is honestly and non-dramatically a complete apocalypse for millions of life forms along the border.

What am I talking about exactly? Well all the actual animals that live along the Rio Grande. West Texas is substantial desert. The Rio is a primary water sources for all kinds of animals that will NOT survive a substantial barrier to their primary and in many cases ONLY water source. You may think its a joke but it is a serious ecological disaster.

That being said I am not AGAINST building a wall across the majority of the border as its effects would be minimal and necessary. My argument against it is not a political one, but a wall is not only impractical in >> SOME << places it will be unarguably devastating, its not as simple as saying "well leave gaps for the animals" as surprisingly enough most of the effected will be larger animals so if a mule deer can cross, so can a human.

You can call me a hippie or lib baby or whatever for being concerned about "The Animals" but Humanity was charged by god to over see the life on Earth and protect it, just listen to what is said right before the 5 minute mark, that is really the only solution for this space. Honestly I don't really care about the farmers - they can be compensated and adapt. You can't pay off nature.


Yes, I realize it is a mild political hit piece by the editor but if you have any real desire for understanding you may want to listen to what these people are saying. I have not found many things that can illustrate for those who have never been there why some Texans and many conservatives do not support a wall through this particular area.




Something must be done, a wall needs to be built in many areas, but there ARE places along the border the need and deserve better than blanket statements, political food fights, and child like mentalities that refuse to treat a complex problem with the respect it deserves. I have been to many of the locations shown in this video, the bars and areas of Big Bend and I know first hand that you are not just being shown cherry picked spaces.

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These people should not be allowed to own land that is on the border. It’s a National Security risk for everyone so they can either take the money and stop bitching or we will take the land either way. The left don’t bitch when the government tried to take the Bundies land and killed people or when they take it for National parks and for preservation so what is the difference. There is not one other than these people are getting paid to oppose and are also probably getting paid by the cartels and the coyotes to use their land. [link to www.apnews.com (secure)]
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Eloisa Cavazos ought to look into how her favorite Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, voted on eminent domain.

According to RBG, the government can literally take her property for any reason it wants to!

It was the majority decision with only "extreme right wingers" dissenting.

Enjoy your cake, bitch.

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^THIS^

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