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BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders

 
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BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Here is his tweet:

H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

What? A new pathway to citizenship for foreign immigrants??
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Here is his tweet:

H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

What? A new pathway to citizenship for foreign immigrants??
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Immigrants are usually foreign.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
He is betraying American workers.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


yup. H1b1 workers undercut the wages of American workers by working as a cheap labor. Dallas,SFO and New Jersey are full of them.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
From March 2018:

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Tuesday directing federal agencies to review and propose changes to a popular, but controversial visa program meant to attract skilled foreign labor.

The H-1B visa program has been assailed for years by critics who say it is used by companies to hire cheap, foreign workers in place of Americans.

"Jobs must be offered to American workers first. Does that make sense?" Trump said Tuesday during a visit to a tool manufacturing company in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

"Right now, widespread abuse in our immigration system is allowing American workers of all backgrounds to be replaced by workers brought in from other countries to do the same job, sometimes for lesser pay."

[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

so in March of last year, he was planning changes to H1-B visas because "jobs must be offered to Americans first" and now he is keeping H1-B visas *plus* allowing the immigrants to become citizens and stay.

i am baffled.
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Many democrats voted for Trump in 2016 only because he promised to go after h1b1 fraud which he never did but promising to offer them citizenship now. He needs to get off the bed and talk to the American workers who got replaced by h1b1 young workers from India at Disney and Sun Edison.

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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


H1-B visas are not for unskilled labor. they are for *temporary* employment of foreigners in specialty, skilled occupations.

Trump's tweet this morning indicated that he is planning to let them stay permanently as citizens.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Well, that kind of sucks. Good for them, not so great for us.
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He is betraying American workers.
 Quoting: McCruise


hesright
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


hesright
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


H1-B visas are not for unskilled labor. they are for *temporary* employment of foreigners in specialty, skilled occupations.

Trump's tweet this morning indicated that he is planning to let them stay permanently as citizens.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


hesright
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
I don’t care for that at all.

More and more I’m thinking we may have been duped... again.

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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Cool. So you know all those young Indian coders and engineers that are being brought in on H1-Bs to work temporarily in Redmond and Silicon valley? Once they have a pathway to citizenship they will stay and be the management of the future.

What the actual fuck?
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Okay... MAYBE he’s softening up the Dumbocracts for another bait and switch???

Heh. Anyone?

Bueller?
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Cool. So you know all those young Indian coders and engineers that are being brought in on H1-Bs to work temporarily in Redmond and Silicon valley? Once they have a pathway to citizenship they will stay and be the management of the future.

What the actual fuck?
 Quoting: Sardonicus Landshark


Exactly. Pisses me off if he goes ahead with this.

What happened to ‘America first’?
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


H1-B visas are not for unskilled labor. they are for *temporary* employment of foreigners in specialty, skilled occupations.

Trump's tweet this morning indicated that he is planning to let them stay permanently as citizens.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


The H-1B program allows companies in the United States to temporarily employ foreign workers in occupations that require the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and a bachelor’s degree or higher in the specific specialty, or its equivalent. H-1B specialty occupations may include fields such as science, engineering and information technology.

[link to www.uscis.gov (secure)]
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And pin request.
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yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


H1-B visas are not for unskilled labor. they are for *temporary* employment of foreigners in specialty, skilled occupations.

Trump's tweet this morning indicated that he is planning to let them stay permanently as citizens.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


The H-1B program allows companies in the United States to temporarily employ foreign workers in occupations that require the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and a bachelor’s degree or higher in the specific specialty, or its equivalent. H-1B specialty occupations may include fields such as science, engineering and information technology.

[link to www.uscis.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Sardonicus Landshark



That's bullshit. Companies are hiring them as cheap labor. I know these people working for $30/hr as Java developers for a 6 month contract assignment.
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if quotas are established and tied to economic indicators such as the employment and unemployment rate for example it is much better policy than currently exists.

this should cover unskilled labour needs specifically.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


H1-B visas are not for unskilled labor. they are for *temporary* employment of foreigners in specialty, skilled occupations.

Trump's tweet this morning indicated that he is planning to let them stay permanently as citizens.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


The H-1B program allows companies in the United States to temporarily employ foreign workers in occupations that require the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and a bachelor’s degree or higher in the specific specialty, or its equivalent. H-1B specialty occupations may include fields such as science, engineering and information technology.

[link to www.uscis.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Sardonicus Landshark



That's bullshit. Companies are hiring them as cheap labor. I know these people working for $30/hr as Java developers for a 6 month contract assignment.
 Quoting: McCruise


I'm not disagreeing with you. The point is that people like Java developers are highly skilled and require a degree. Those are the jobs that new American college graduates are looking for.

Once they become citizens, they are here for good, competing for more highly paid management positions.

So if your son or daughter is in college now, there's a better chance that after they graduate, their boss will be named Kumar.
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just checked and 85,000 H1-B visas were issued last year.
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why did a bunch of posts in this thread disappear all of a sudden?
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why did a bunch of posts in this thread disappear all of a sudden?
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More that five of them just got deleted, including one that I just posted.

WTF?
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Good happy he is doing that. Still wont help him get the idotic wall though so dont get your hopes up lol.
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Thread: President Trump: "H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming -- including a potential path to citizenship.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump just tweeted that he is planning a potential "pathway to citizenship" for immigrant H1-B visa holders
Here is his tweet:

H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

What? A new pathway to citizenship for foreign immigrants??
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


Immigrants are usually foreign.
 Quoting: Tainted Meat


The POTUS' now wife (and maybe also his first wife?) were former immigrants who managed to get jobs and then took citizenship by some way or other.

He probably hasn't forgotten this.
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So if your son or daughter is in college now, there's a better chance that after they graduate, their boss will be named Kumar.
 Quoting: Sardonicus Landshark


Kumar won’t hire your son, only another Kumar.
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I know a lot of Ameican who have lost thier jobs because of these H1-B visa holders.
The reason they are here is so the company execs can get bigger bonuses. That’s the only reason.
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If they have a visa then they are there legally.

Making it harder to get a visa and cracking down on illegal immigration aren't mutually exclusive with making legal immigration for visa holders easier.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yes, of course they are working legally, possibly at the expense of American jobs. but Trump's plan now is apparently to allow them to obtain citizenship and stay as citizens and that has never been the case in the past.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


yup. H1b1 workers undercut the wages of American workers by working as a cheap labor. Dallas,SFO and New Jersey are full of them.
 Quoting: McCruise


I thought HB1 workers are more of the computer programmer / college grad types that move here from India?

Those guys are usually nice people, honest family men/women. BUT, they do take jobs from US college grads so I'm not a big fan of the program

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