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I’ve always thought that the ill-effects of long-term marijuana use resided mainly in laziness, low ambition level, and a gradual decline in ability to think analytically. But the evils Berensen alleges are of a different order of magnitude.

The book was seeded one night a few years ago when Berenson’s wife, a psychiatrist who evaluates mentally ill criminal defendants in New York, started talking about a horrific case she was handling. It was “the usual horror story, somebody who’d cut up his grandmother or set fire to his apartment—typical bedtime chat in the Berenson house,” he writes. But then, his wife added, “Of course he was high, been smoking pot his whole life.”. . .

[H]is Harvard-trained wife insisted that all the horrible cases she was seeing involved people who were heavy into weed. She directed him to the science on the subject.


Here is what Berensen found:

Cannabis has been associated with legitimate reports of psychotic behavior and violence dating at least to the 19th century, when a Punjabi lawyer in India noted that 20 to 30 percent of patients in mental hospitals were committed for cannabis-related insanity. The lawyer, like Berenson’s wife, described horrific crimes—including at least one beheading—and attributed far more cases of mental illness to cannabis than to alcohol or opium. The Mexican government reached similar conclusions, banning cannabis sales in 1920—nearly 20 years before the United States did—after years of reports of cannabis-induced madness and violent crime.

Over the past couple of decades, studies around the globe have found that THC—the active compound in cannabis—is strongly linked to psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence. Berenson interviewed far-flung researchers who have quietly but methodically documented the effects of THC on serious mental illness, and he makes a convincing case that a recreational drug marketed as an all-around health product may, in fact, be really dangerous—especially for people with a family history of mental illness and for adolescents with developing brains.


One would expect that if marijuana produces serious mental disorders it will also increase violent crime. It seems to, just as Berensen’s wife told him anecdotally:

Berenson looked at data for the four states that legalized weed in 2014 and 2015—Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Colorado—and calculated a combined 35 percent increase in murders in those states from 2013 to 2017, compared with a 20-percent rise nationally. This “isn’t a statistical anomaly,” Berenson writes. “It’s real.”

The role of weed in rising violent crime rates in legalization states is a hotly contested question, especially in Colorado, where murders in Denver are at a 10-year high. Berenson admits he can’t say for sure whether those upswings are due to legal weed, but the raw data, he says, definitely contradicts advocates’ claims: “What I want people to stop saying is that legalization reduces violent crime. It doesn’t.”


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I think many people are confusing the effects of SMOKE toxicity, and CHEMICAL toxicity with cannabis use. It's negative effects are from smoke and chemicals used to grow it , not the cannabis itself. Pure landrace organic cannabis consumed orally has literally 0 side effects. Fact.
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I’ve always thought that the ill-effects of long-term marijuana use resided mainly in laziness, low ambition level, and a gradual decline in ability to think analytically. But the evils Berensen alleges are of a different order of magnitude.

The book was seeded one night a few years ago when Berenson’s wife, a psychiatrist who evaluates mentally ill criminal defendants in New York, started talking about a horrific case she was handling. It was “the usual horror story, somebody who’d cut up his grandmother or set fire to his apartment—typical bedtime chat in the Berenson house,” he writes. But then, his wife added, “Of course he was high, been smoking pot his whole life.”. . .

[H]is Harvard-trained wife insisted that all the horrible cases she was seeing involved people who were heavy into weed. She directed him to the science on the subject.


Here is what Berensen found:

Cannabis has been associated with legitimate reports of psychotic behavior and violence dating at least to the 19th century, when a Punjabi lawyer in India noted that 20 to 30 percent of patients in mental hospitals were committed for cannabis-related insanity. The lawyer, like Berenson’s wife, described horrific crimes—including at least one beheading—and attributed far more cases of mental illness to cannabis than to alcohol or opium. The Mexican government reached similar conclusions, banning cannabis sales in 1920—nearly 20 years before the United States did—after years of reports of cannabis-induced madness and violent crime.

Over the past couple of decades, studies around the globe have found that THC—the active compound in cannabis—is strongly linked to psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence. Berenson interviewed far-flung researchers who have quietly but methodically documented the effects of THC on serious mental illness, and he makes a convincing case that a recreational drug marketed as an all-around health product may, in fact, be really dangerous—especially for people with a family history of mental illness and for adolescents with developing brains.


One would expect that if marijuana produces serious mental disorders it will also increase violent crime. It seems to, just as Berensen’s wife told him anecdotally:

Berenson looked at data for the four states that legalized weed in 2014 and 2015—Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Colorado—and calculated a combined 35 percent increase in murders in those states from 2013 to 2017, compared with a 20-percent rise nationally. This “isn’t a statistical anomaly,” Berenson writes. “It’s real.”

The role of weed in rising violent crime rates in legalization states is a hotly contested question, especially in Colorado, where murders in Denver are at a 10-year high. Berenson admits he can’t say for sure whether those upswings are due to legal weed, but the raw data, he says, definitely contradicts advocates’ claims: “What I want people to stop saying is that legalization reduces violent crime. It doesn’t.”


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So you're quoting the same author who was previously discredited?
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Here is a one star for another retarded post Francis, isn't it time for your daily dose of heroin? You junkie fuckhead.

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What about opioid induced hallucination, OP?

I’d wager you know a great deal about that.
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What about opioid induced hallucination, OP?

I’d wager you know a great deal about that.
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I have never had any hallucinations in my life.

WeedTards and JesusTards are the ones who have Visual and Auditory hallucinations entangled with mental illness.
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British films are always the best.

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What about opioid induced hallucination, OP?

I’d wager you know a great deal about that.
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I have never had any hallucinations in my life.

WeedTards and JesusTards are the ones who have Visual and Auditory hallucinations entangled with mental illness.
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Francis,
Hallucinations are a side effect of opioid use. This is a documented fact. It may not happen to you, but does happen to opioid abusers. You can try to dismiss it, but facts do not lie.

So we have another post from you, and another miss.

From my count, you're running 0 for 18. Now, I'm including the claims you make in your signature, but still. To be completely off the mark one time I can understand. To do it every single time is a very rare thing indeed.

To put it in perspective, consider the following Sports Figures. As bad as these guys were, and yes they were truly awful, they still did a better job that you're doing.

Chris Davis - Baseball - finishes with a -3.2 WAR and a .168 batting average

Ben Wallace - Basketball - Free throw percentage 41.4

Bob Timberlake - NFL - - 0.067 field goal percentage during the 1965 season

Jimmy "Oops" Hines - NFL - 2 receptions for 23 yards

Bob Uecker - Baseball- .200 career batting average, but did hit a home run off Sandy Koufax

Maurice Flitcroft - Golf - shot 49 over par 121 at the 1976 Open.

Carlton Palmer - Soccer - 1 goal in 18 appearances

Wade Belak - Hockey - 8 goals in 549 games

Maybe you can't relate to sports given your disability. But I'm sure you can appreciate the stats.

If you really want to make a claim against cannabis, don't just blindly quote whatever article shows up in your search results. Research Research Research
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More bullshit from the Whitby wimp.
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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
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I once did two marijuana's, had a mental breakdown and robed Fort Knox.
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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
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Deaths everyday cause by cannabis like strokes, heart attacks, low blood pressure, ketoacidosis, poisoning, suicides from mental health problem caused be cannabis etc, etc....

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Cannabis destroys the heart and vascular system, dangerously lowers blood pressure and causes psychosis and paranoia

Gemma Moss, 31, becomes first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning

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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
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Deaths everyday cause by cannabis like strokes, heart attacks, low blood pressure, ketoacidosis, poisoning, suicides from mental health problem caused be cannabis etc, etc....
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Stop with your lies Francis.

There have been no cannabis caused deaths.
Zero.
None.

Get your facts straight

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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
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Deaths everyday cause by cannabis like strokes, heart attacks, low blood pressure, ketoacidosis, poisoning, suicides from mental health problem caused be cannabis etc, etc....
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Stop with your lies Francis.

There have been no cannabis caused deaths.
Zero.
None.

Get your facts straight

0/19.
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I have probably posted about over 1000 cannabis related deaths on this and that's just a drop in the ocean.
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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Deaths everyday cause by cannabis like strokes, heart attacks, low blood pressure, ketoacidosis, poisoning, suicides from mental health problem caused be cannabis etc, etc....
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Stop with your lies Francis.

There have been no cannabis caused deaths.
Zero.
None.

Get your facts straight

0/19.
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I have probably posted about over 1000 cannabis related deaths on this and that's just a drop in the ocean.
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You have come up with one death in the UK....And that's not proven...If it's a deadly poison..then their should be mass deaths..where are all the mass deaths......stop bullshitting and get of your sorry arse and get a job.
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I’ve always thought that the ill-effects of long-term marijuana use resided mainly in laziness, low ambition level, and a gradual decline in ability to think analytically. But the evils Berensen alleges are of a different order of magnitude.

The book was seeded one night a few years ago when Berenson’s wife, a psychiatrist who evaluates mentally ill criminal defendants in New York, started talking about a horrific case she was handling. It was “the usual horror story, somebody who’d cut up his grandmother or set fire to his apartment—typical bedtime chat in the Berenson house,” he writes. But then, his wife added, “Of course he was high, been smoking pot his whole life.”. . .

[H]is Harvard-trained wife insisted that all the horrible cases she was seeing involved people who were heavy into weed. She directed him to the science on the subject.


Here is what Berensen found:

Cannabis has been associated with legitimate reports of psychotic behavior and violence dating at least to the 19th century, when a Punjabi lawyer in India noted that 20 to 30 percent of patients in mental hospitals were committed for cannabis-related insanity. The lawyer, like Berenson’s wife, described horrific crimes—including at least one beheading—and attributed far more cases of mental illness to cannabis than to alcohol or opium. The Mexican government reached similar conclusions, banning cannabis sales in 1920—nearly 20 years before the United States did—after years of reports of cannabis-induced madness and violent crime.

Over the past couple of decades, studies around the globe have found that THC—the active compound in cannabis—is strongly linked to psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence. Berenson interviewed far-flung researchers who have quietly but methodically documented the effects of THC on serious mental illness, and he makes a convincing case that a recreational drug marketed as an all-around health product may, in fact, be really dangerous—especially for people with a family history of mental illness and for adolescents with developing brains.


One would expect that if marijuana produces serious mental disorders it will also increase violent crime. It seems to, just as Berensen’s wife told him anecdotally:

Berenson looked at data for the four states that legalized weed in 2014 and 2015—Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Colorado—and calculated a combined 35 percent increase in murders in those states from 2013 to 2017, compared with a 20-percent rise nationally. This “isn’t a statistical anomaly,” Berenson writes. “It’s real.”

The role of weed in rising violent crime rates in legalization states is a hotly contested question, especially in Colorado, where murders in Denver are at a 10-year high. Berenson admits he can’t say for sure whether those upswings are due to legal weed, but the raw data, he says, definitely contradicts advocates’ claims: “What I want people to stop saying is that legalization reduces violent crime. It doesn’t.”


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You're the 'Reefer Madness' poster child of the 21st century.



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Aspirin and Tylenol are far more dangerous.
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Still waiting for the mass deaths from this deadly poison.
 Quoting: Hawkshot


Deaths everyday cause by cannabis like strokes, heart attacks, low blood pressure, ketoacidosis, poisoning, suicides from mental health problem caused be cannabis etc, etc....
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


Stop with your lies Francis.

There have been no cannabis caused deaths.
Zero.
None.

Get your facts straight

0/19.
 Quoting: ljsikes


I have probably posted about over 1000 cannabis related deaths on this and that's just a drop in the ocean.
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No you haven't. That's because you refuse to actually read the studies involved. You just post any article you find that you think proves your point.

Case in point - Gemma Moss didn't die from cannabis poisoning.

The author that's mentioned in today's post has been refuted. Did you even bother to look into him at all, or did you just post the link?

No one in history has died from cannabis. No one.

You're still batting .000

Think for yourself Francis. Well, at least try.

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I think many people are confusing the effects of SMOKE toxicity, and CHEMICAL toxicity with cannabis use. It's negative effects are from smoke and chemicals used to grow it , not the cannabis itself. Pure landrace organic cannabis consumed orally has literally 0 side effects. Fact.
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You're more obsessed with weed than any pot head I've ever met.

Time for a new hobby Mr. Morphine.
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OP is making straight-edge cool

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What about opioid induced hallucination, OP?

I’d wager you know a great deal about that.
 Quoting: NXavier


I have never had any hallucinations in my life.

WeedTards and JesusTards are the ones who have Visual and Auditory hallucinations entangled with mental illness.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


I'd rather be mentally ill, smokin' weed and worshipping Yeshua than ever be like you, troll.
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You're more obsessed with weed than any pot head I've ever met.

Time for a new hobby Mr. Morphine.
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I don't have any hobbies apart from video games.
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You're more obsessed with weed than any pot head I've ever met.

Time for a new hobby Mr. Morphine.
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I don't have any hobbies apart from video games.
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don't forget about your love of being pro-isis
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Hold the fish
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You're more obsessed with weed than any pot head I've ever met.

Time for a new hobby Mr. Morphine.
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I don't have any hobbies apart from video games.
 Quoting: Cannabis Kills People


don't forget about your love of being pro-isis
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The fuck?

Go away Ahmed.
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The Governments are making this legal and it will likely be legal world wide in a few years.
The tax is very good and as it turns out, a lot of people enjoy this plants effects.