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Jake Thomas Patterson 41 sorry it was 21 not 41

Arrested & charged with her parents deaths and her kidnapping

It's creepy how the police are taking credit for this break in the case when it was Jamie herself who walked out and a stranger helped her.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I said that yesterday! I even watched a TV news team reporting on it...actually gushing with happiness... saying how much the sheriff's department are to be thanked for never giving up on this case!
 Quoting: nutmeg


To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
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Pic of the perp


[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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He looks like a penis with glasses.
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


Ya, balding at 21

Creep, someone posted his brother was arrested for molesting a 15 year old girl
 Quoting: ~kpm~

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People in chat on the YT stream are saying to cut these guys some slack because it is super small town and by far the biggest thing that ever happened there. They have no experience with this kind of thing. They also have to be careful not to say too much for whatever legal reasons so instead it is 100% fluff.
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To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
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You make a very good and fair point.
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People in chat on the YT stream are saying to cut these guys some slack because it is super small town and by far the biggest thing that ever happened there. They have no experience with this kind of thing. They also have to be careful not to say too much for whatever legal reasons so instead it is 100% fluff.
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Yeah, lawyers for the state, town, and private individuals will have been circling for two months now, waiting for liability opportunities.
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Jayme was the target. The perp took measures to conceal his identity and to conceal Jayme from his friends.
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Poor girl.

Here's some hope for her...


 Quoting: Chip


She will need a lot of emotional support, lord knows what he’s done to her, she saw her parents murdered.

Smart is a solid role model
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Jake Thomas Patterson 41 sorry it was 21 not 41

Arrested & charged with her parents deaths and her kidnapping

It's creepy how the police are taking credit for this break in the case when it was Jamie herself who walked out and a stranger helped her.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I said that yesterday! I even watched a TV news team reporting on it...actually gushing with happiness... saying how much the sheriff's department are to be thanked for never giving up on this case!
 Quoting: nutmeg


To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way! If you read any reports, the sheriff even seems to be taking credit for it!

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Jake Thomas Patterson 41 sorry it was 21 not 41

Arrested & charged with her parents deaths and her kidnapping

It's creepy how the police are taking credit for this break in the case when it was Jamie herself who walked out and a stranger helped her.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I said that yesterday! I even watched a TV news team reporting on it...actually gushing with happiness... saying how much the sheriff's department are to be thanked for never giving up on this case!
 Quoting: nutmeg


To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Take the "She magically showed up on my doorstep!" with a grain of salt ;)

Until we know more, I mean.

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Poor girl.

Here's some hope for her...


 Quoting: Chip


She will need a lot of emotional support, lord knows what he’s done to her, she saw her parents murdered.

Smart is a solid role model
 Quoting: ~kpm~


They just said she wasn't abused
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Btw for you GLP sleuths digging deeper, be sure to include Minong (as well as Gordon) in your search area.
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Poor girl.

Here's some hope for her...


 Quoting: Chip


She will need a lot of emotional support, lord knows what he’s done to her, she saw her parents murdered.

Smart is a solid role model
 Quoting: ~kpm~


They just said she wasn't abused
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Oh, I missed that.....

I hope it’s true!
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I said that yesterday! I even watched a TV news team reporting on it...actually gushing with happiness... saying how much the sheriff's department are to be thanked for never giving up on this case!
 Quoting: nutmeg


To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Take the "She magically showed up on my doorstep!" with a grain of salt ;)

Until we know more, I mean.
 Quoting: Zefyr


I just read an article with this comment below it. An example of what is being reported out there. It's actually Chris Fitzgerald's twitter account. I'm not blaming him for taking the credit. It might be the way journalists and TV news teams are reporting it?

"Great News! Nice work Sheriff Fitzgerald!!"

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Re susp being "balding," look closely; that may be a military cut. Someone reported his mom posting a (rare) pic of him, captioned "When does he leave?"
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Kind of weird that the law enforcement is taking credit for something that they didn't have anything to do with, Jayme Closs saved Jayme Closs. I don't believe she had anything to do with this Patterson guy but just like other families Jayme's pictures were plastered all over facebook along with information this dude used to stalk her. This is the reason I cringe when my neice puts her childrens lives all over facebook, where they live, parks they attend all the time, which school they attend. Predators use facebook to stalk future victims all the time.
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Why kill the parents?

If this guy was stalking Jayme with intent to kidnap, why not do it by NOT breaking into the home and killing them, thereby creating a guaranteed multi-agency manhunt for yourself?

For heaven's sake, it's the school year. A million easier ways (sadly) to grab a kid in or near Gordon. It's a very safe (i.e. vulnerable) place even by Wisconsin standards.

I'm thinking there has to be a rage element regarding the parents (even if it was a simple as a stalker feeling he was being thwarted by them).

Maybe he thought he almost had Jayme convinced to meet up with him, but she kept saying "My parents won't let me out" or something - something that made this "careful planning" become anything but.

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Kind of weird that the law enforcement is taking credit for something that they didn't have anything to do with, Jayme Closs saved Jayme Closs. I don't believe she had anything to do with this Patterson guy but just like other families Jayme's pictures were plastered all over facebook along with information this dude used to stalk her. This is the reason I cringe when my neice puts her childrens lives all over facebook, where they live, parks they attend all the time, which school they attend. Predators use facebook to stalk future victims all the time.
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Jayme doesn't have much of anything on her Facebook. No address...no city...no age. There are "privacy" settings on Facebook. If you DON'T want a stranger to see your info, you choose to keep it private. The perp must have known her and found her some other way.

The facts:
As of the third quarter of 2018, Facebook had 2.27 billion monthly active users. In the third quarter of 2012, the number of active Facebook users had surpassed one billion, making it the first social network ever to do so. Active users are those which have logged in to Facebook during the last 30 days.

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I am surprised a 21 year old had the wherewithal to keep her hidden "just" 70 miles away for 87 days.
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I said that yesterday! I even watched a TV news team reporting on it...actually gushing with happiness... saying how much the sheriff's department are to be thanked for never giving up on this case!
 Quoting: nutmeg


To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Take the "She magically showed up on my doorstep!" with a grain of salt ;)

Until we know more, I mean.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Okay...this is what's posted on Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald's account on Facebook. If you weren't aware she escaped from her kidnapper, wouldn't you assume the sheriff found her? Just sayin'.

We want to thank the Douglas Co Sheriff’s Department and agencies assisting them tonight. We also want to thank all the Law Enforcement agencies across the state and county that have assisted us in this case. We also could not have endured this case without the support of the public and I want to thank them for all the support and help.
Finally we want to especially thank the family for their support and patience while this case was ongoing. We promised to bring Jayme home and tonight we get to fulfill that promise. From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU!

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Don't get me wrong. The sheriff seems like a nice guy, and I'm sure they are elated, but it just sounds strange that they are taking credit.
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Has the look/aura/countenance of Talmud-Jew.

IMO
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Why kill the parents?

If this guy was stalking Jayme with intent to kidnap, why not do it by NOT breaking into the home and killing them, thereby creating a guaranteed multi-agency manhunt for yourself?

For heaven's sake, it's the school year. A million easier ways (sadly) to grab a kid in or near Gordon. It's a very safe (i.e. vulnerable) place even by Wisconsin standards.

I'm thinking there has to be a rage element regarding the parents (even if it was a simple as a stalker feeling he was being thwarted by them).

Maybe he thought he almost had Jayme convinced to meet up with him, but she kept saying "My parents won't let me out" or something - something that made this "careful planning" become anything but.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Yep and they did say they were still checking internet communication or something to that effect.

Let's face it guys they are not going to tell the public a living 13 yr old was abused by her kidnapper at this point in time. That will come out at the trial...see Elizabeth Smarts case. They bust their assez to protect these so few alive lucky young people thank God.
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I live 50 minutes south of Gordon and 35 minutes from Jayme's home.

I am thinking about driving up there and asking questions from locals (grocery store, launder mat, etc.) to learn more. I do not believe this was done by just 1 21 year old kid. Too much to plan and too much to sustain her for the past 3 months.
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Pic of the perp


[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ~kpm~


He looks like a penis with glasses.
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


Ya, balding at 21

Creep, someone posted his brother was arrested for molesting a 15 year old girl
 Quoting: ~kpm~


The Talmud-Jew is notorious for assuming false identities & aliases...
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To be fair, we're all gushing with happiness right now. Everyone's far too happy that this wasn't what everyone expected--a body in the woods. I literally can't believe she's alive. There will be a lot more to this story, but I think we all just can't believe a girl that young missing for so long is actually alive. Seems it always goes the other way.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Take the "She magically showed up on my doorstep!" with a grain of salt ;)

Until we know more, I mean.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Okay...this is what's posted on Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald's account on Facebook. If you weren't aware she escaped from her kidnapper, wouldn't you assume the sheriff found her? Just sayin'.

We want to thank the Douglas Co Sheriff’s Department and agencies assisting them tonight. We also want to thank all the Law Enforcement agencies across the state and county that have assisted us in this case. We also could not have endured this case without the support of the public and I want to thank them for all the support and help.
Finally we want to especially thank the family for their support and patience while this case was ongoing. We promised to bring Jayme home and tonight we get to fulfill that promise. From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU!

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Don't get me wrong. The sheriff seems like a nice guy, and I'm sure they are elated, but it just sounds strange that they are taking credit.
 Quoting: nutmeg


Well - the perp didn't turn himself in, eh?

That's a curious part of the escape: If Jayme escaped on her own, why did the perp just sit around waiting to be arrested (did he, in fact?)

There's something hinckey with all of this.
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Has the look/aura/countenance of Talmud-Jew.

IMO
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Military haircut, methinks.
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I think we mustn't presume (yet) that the intent was to take Jayme.

Seems just as likely he had rage toward the parents (hell, maybe he was stalking the mother), and either didn't count on a child witness being present, or couldn't bring himself to kill the child. So he took her and didn't know what to do about her.

I'm not leaning in either direction, but I think that's just as likely, given the killing of the parents.
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Well, DUH! I said they were gushing with happiness that the sheriff's department were responsible for finding her. All the while, they KNEW she escaped. Come on now. That's ridiculous to report it that way!
 Quoting: nutmeg
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Take the "She magically showed up on my doorstep!" with a grain of salt ;)

Until we know more, I mean.
 Quoting: Zefyr


Okay...this is what's posted on Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald's account on Facebook. If you weren't aware she escaped from her kidnapper, wouldn't you assume the sheriff found her? Just sayin'.

We want to thank the Douglas Co Sheriff’s Department and agencies assisting them tonight. We also want to thank all the Law Enforcement agencies across the state and county that have assisted us in this case. We also could not have endured this case without the support of the public and I want to thank them for all the support and help.
Finally we want to especially thank the family for their support and patience while this case was ongoing. We promised to bring Jayme home and tonight we get to fulfill that promise. From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU!

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Don't get me wrong. The sheriff seems like a nice guy, and I'm sure they are elated, but it just sounds strange that they are taking credit.
 Quoting: nutmeg


Well - the perp didn't turn himself in, eh?

That's a curious part of the escape: If Jayme escaped on her own, why did the perp just sit around waiting to be arrested (did he, in fact?)

There's something hinckey with all of this.
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I got that he had left the cabin/house in his car, Jayme was able to escape, she described his car to the police and they quickly found him in the area and pulled him over and arrested him.
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I got that he had left the cabin/house in his car, Jayme was able to escape, she described his car to the police and they quickly found him in the area and pulled him over and arrested him.
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Thanks for that - I'm behind on some of the deets.

I wonder how police in a random area far away from Jayme's home could have been so well-staffed as to find him quickly? I think she'd have had to have given police a name or license plate, at least, to have results that swift in a tiny unrelated town, unless police were already casing Gordon on suspicions.
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Well, someone shut down the brother's FB (and a friend's as well).

That means lawyers and LEO are in our (and other) threads.

That means this isn't a simple "Jake did it" case.
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What is mom's name, y'all? I have bro as Erik J.