What's in the Talmud pt 1 and pt 2

That's the same thing from last week, maybe it didn't post.

If a Jewish person beats his slave and the slave dies from it, the Jewish person is beheaded by the Jewish court as punishment. If the slave survives, the Jewish person is not punished.

That's the same thing from last week, maybe it didn't post.

If a Jewish person beats his slave and the slave dies from it, the Jewish person is beheaded by the Jewish court as punishment. If the slave survives, the Jewish person is not punished.

You lie. The Talmud is unholy blasphemy and nothing near the equivalent to Torah/Tanakh

A lot of Jews are against the Talmud.

Shabbat Shalom

Are you just going to troll this post the rest of the evening???

I've given you links, glp won't let me post the text directly.

Conspiracy?? Probably

3.50??

Are you just going to troll this post the rest of the evening???

I've given you links, glp won't let me post the text directly.

Conspiracy?? Probably

3.50??

I think understanding of Frankism is essential.

I think understanding of Frankism is essential.

I think understanding of Frankism is essential.

Do you mean 'Jacob Frank' or the Franks? Jacob Frank is an ideological descendent of Sabathai Zevi. But Franks works and biographies have for the most part been scrubbed. I've tried to get a biography of this guy, but they've all been removed from publication.

I agree he's important, he came out of Bavaria in the mid-late 1700s the same time (and place) Rothschild was beginning his banking empire and Weishaupt founded the illuminati.

Religion, finance and secret society.


Where can I learn more?

Not that I disagree but it pinned on glp whhhaaaaaaat, what is this another dimension ??

Jews don't mistreat Christians. That's what Muslims do. Jews ignore Christians, maybe privately insult them along with other non-Jews, but isn't that what we call "protected speech"?

Jews don't mistreat Christians. That's what Muslims do. Jews ignore Christians, maybe privately insult them along with other non-Jews, but isn't that what we call "protected speech"?

While searching for some insight into how I should interpret Judiasms Talmud I came across a couple articles/lectures that shed some light on the Orthodox view of Judaism. While these two articles are not all-encompassing they are a pretty good starting point for further exploration.




Professor Gregory Benevitch of the St. Petersburg Institute of Religion and Philosophy

THE JEWISH QUESTION IN THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH

"...As for Judaism, it rejects Christ who has already come, it does not acknowledge Him, which means, that it does not believe in Him. This is something different from the faith of the righteous of the Old Testament. Now, since Judaism has rejected Christ, it has closed the way to God for the Jewish people which adhere to this religion. Nevertheless, being a religion, it was obliged to lead to some god. And being the religion of the Absolute God, it was obliged to lead to the Absolute God, to the only true one. However, this god could not be true God of the Jewish faith (before Christ). He was something else, an absolutely false god created within the Judaism.

The Old Testament, according to the teaching of the Fathers, should play the role of lifting of our flesh towards the spirit (the images of Moses, climbing the Sinai, and of the prophet Ilijah are the best examples of this movement). Being absolutely perverted in Judaism, however, this movement finally gave birth to the idea which absolutely enslaves the spirit, making it carnal. Practically, it was realised in Judaism in the idea of Messiah who will establish the Jewish state, and will give his people endless prosperity and power over other nations. Now, in so far as this ideal of the earthly prosperity, given by Messiah was not fulfilled, the Jews having noticed that peoples around them live much better than themselves, rejected their false religion. They (at least a great part of them) went away from Judaism, that is became one of the ethnic bodies of the European nations. This part of the Jews did not believe in the coming of Messiah any more. However, they still had this ideal of the earthly prosperity. Though now, they could not claim that this prosperity will be especially for the Jews. And finally they (I mean Marx, of cause, who was the first of them) elaborated a new ideal - earthly prosperity for all peoples of the world, regardless their nationality. (And to some extent this ideal was more biblical, though certainly also carnal, than that of the Judaism. The Bible says that all nations should finally participate in the Covenant of God) And new messianic Levites, called communists, and new messianic nation, called proletariat ( those, chosen from among all nations, who seek earthly well-being), should have realise this ideal in history for themselves and all others, who will accept it. Those who will not accept it, are the enemies of the proletariat...."

Source1: [link to www.ocf.org]

Source2: [link to www.intratext.com]


and this article

IS THE ORTHODOX CHURCH “SUPERSESSIONIST”?

"...Meanwhile, “Supersessionism” serves as the center in many of these discussions, and descriptions of it are also in flux. Descriptions of “Supersessionism” are usually negative and sometimes absolutist, calling into question whether they accurately describe traditional Christian beliefs. The common denominator in its various definitions is the idea that the New Testament or Church “supersedes” the Old Testament or Israel. The word “supersede” has meanings ranging from one thing having a higher authority or precedence, to overruling or replacing another thing. In practice the latter can be replaced completely or partly, or could be even fully incorporated into that which is new. Before placing a label on Orthodoxy, one must seriously consider the possibility that the topic itself is outside of Orthodox debate – Supersessionism is a word practically unused by Orthodox and even the word “supersede” is rare. Additionally, Orthodox thinking does not generally work in a legalistic way, yet the term “supersede” comes from legal reasoning.

To understand Orthodoxy, one must harmonize its theologians’ views. In general, Orthodox writings use the word supersede primarily in regard to Christ’s precedence over the Old Testament, while discussions of the Church’s relationship to Israel primarily focus on continuation. They describe: Christ superseding the law by transforming it, Christ’s sacrifice and the Eucharist superseding previous sacrifices under the Mosaic system of sacrifice, the Christian Pentecost superseding the Pentecost of the giving of the Law on Sinai by enhancing it. They see God providing a progressive revelation climaxing in Christ and Christ superseding the previous revelations in that way...."

Source: [link to www.orthochristian.com]