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A core group of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus is urging President Donald Trump against the explosive step of declaring a national emergency to build his wall.

Multiple Republicans in the conservative group have privately raised their concerns with the Trump administration, fearing it would lead to a years-long legal standoff that Democrats could win while setting a dangerous precedent for the presidency, according to more than a dozen lawmakers and GOP aides. They want Trump to hold out for a deal with Democrats, regardless of how long the partial government shutdown drags on.

Trump’s possible pursuit of an emergency declaration on the border divided the caucus during an animated meeting Wednesday night, according to lawmakers who attended the meeting. Members wrestled with constitutional concerns. GOP Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan was reportedly particularly outspoken. Searching for an alternative, the group kicked around other, more legally sound ways for Trump to raise revenue for the wall.

“I do see the potential for national emergencies being used for every single thing that we face in the future where we can’t reach an agreement. That’s the slippery slope that I’m concerned about,” Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally, told POLITICO on Thursday. “The administration is well aware of the ability to use national emergency [powers] and the reluctance to do so from House members.”

The president’s approach is putting House conservatives — who spent years railing against President Barack Obama for alleged executive overreach, particularly on immigration — in a serious bind. It’s also one of conservatives’ first battles in their new minority, where the once-powerful House Freedom Caucus now hold far less leverage in the House.

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If The Wall doesn't qualify as a National Emergency issue, I don't know what does.

We're losing half as many Americans a year as we did on average in the Vietnam War just from cruel murders by illegal aliens.

Those asshole politicians better get their heads screwed on straight or they will be known as an enemy to the American People.
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They are just doing what it takes to stop the wall while doing what it takes to destroy "freedom". Nowadays in politics, if you want to know what a group stands against, look for the main point they stand for.

"freedom" = destroy freedom.

"progress" = progressing backwards into a black hole.
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They are just doing what it takes to stop the wall while doing what it takes to destroy "freedom". Nowadays in politics, if you want to know what a group stands against, look for the main point they stand for.

"freedom" = destroy freedom.

"progress" = progressing backwards into a black hole.
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The Freedom Caucus? Seriously?
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Oh ffs, this is stupid. How many times have you guys put up threads about the multiple national emergencies other presidents have called? And now it's only now a "slippery slope"? That's a weak excuse. I get it now though.... The Dems voted on a wall before, but only because they knew nobody would actually follow through at the time. Now that Trump is (so far) not backing down, they are flipping out like crackheads getting ready to lose a dealer. And the Republicans are starting to jump ship too, apparently.

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Oh ffs, this is stupid. How many times have you guys put up threads about the multiple national emergencies other presidents have called? And now it's only now a "slippery slope"? That's a weak excuse. I get it now though.... The Dems voted on a wall before, but only because they knew nobody would actually follow through at the time. Now that Trump is (so far) not backing down, they are flipping out like crackheads getting ready to lose a dealer.
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I didn't say it. Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally, said it.
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They better stop being pussies and do their job of protecting America.
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Freedom Caucus, sounds like something Soros would fund.
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Freedom Caucus, sounds like something Soros would fund.
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Soros funding the Freedom Caucus? Dude....

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Oh ffs, this is stupid. How many times have you guys put up threads about the multiple national emergencies other presidents have called? And now it's only now a "slippery slope"? That's a weak excuse. I get it now though.... The Dems voted on a wall before, but only because they knew nobody would actually follow through at the time. Now that Trump is (so far) not backing down, they are flipping out like crackheads getting ready to lose a dealer.
 Quoting: Just Some Chick


I didn't say it. Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally, said it.
 Quoting: Uncle Cleatus


I know :) I was speaking in general about it suddenly being a big deal to them.
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Freedom caucus sucks ass! protest
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Freedom Caucus? More like Fry dumb caca.

There will be NO FREEDOM if you don't protect your nation accordingly, you really need border security and you need people that just travels around arresting illegals and those that hire illegals (you need very hard punishment for those).

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Freedom Caucus, sounds like something Soros would fund.
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Freedom Caucus? More like Fry dumb caca.

There will be NO FREEDOM if you don't protect your nation accordingly, you really need border security and you need people that just travels around arresting illegals and those that hire illegals (you need very hard punishment for those).
 Quoting: AltSwede


This


Listen to the Swede. All of their women are being stolen by migrants and their culture destroyed, while the Swedish male is demonized and encouraged to act like a little sissy.
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Freedom Caucus, sounds like something Soros would fund.
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dudewhat
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It does, here's stuff Soros founded or supported:
Founded:
Open Society Foundations
New America

Supported:
Black Lives Matter
Best for Britain
European Movement UK
Scientists for EU
Media Matters for America
Center for Public Integrity
Human Rights Watch
Priorities USA Action
American Bridge 21st Century
America Votes
Millennium Promise


it got that shitlib style name.

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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
A core group of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus is urging President Donald Trump against the explosive step of declaring a national emergency to build his wall.

Multiple Republicans in the conservative group have privately raised their concerns with the Trump administration, fearing it would lead to a years-long legal standoff that Democrats could win while setting a dangerous precedent for the presidency, according to more than a dozen lawmakers and GOP aides. They want Trump to hold out for a deal with Democrats, regardless of how long the partial government shutdown drags on.

Trump’s possible pursuit of an emergency declaration on the border divided the caucus during an animated meeting Wednesday night, according to lawmakers who attended the meeting. Members wrestled with constitutional concerns. GOP Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan was reportedly particularly outspoken. Searching for an alternative, the group kicked around other, more legally sound ways for Trump to raise revenue for the wall.

“I do see the potential for national emergencies being used for every single thing that we face in the future where we can’t reach an agreement. That’s the slippery slope that I’m concerned about,” Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally, told POLITICO on Thursday. “The administration is well aware of the ability to use national emergency [powers] and the reluctance to do so from House members.”

The president’s approach is putting House conservatives — who spent years railing against President Barack Obama for alleged executive overreach, particularly on immigration — in a serious bind. It’s also one of conservatives’ first battles in their new minority, where the once-powerful House Freedom Caucus now hold far less leverage in the House.

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just NWO commie sell outs that is all.. why all the horse shit about freedom when they want to take it all away from us? Do they think we are that dumb?
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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
Freedom Caucus? More like Fry dumb caca.

There will be NO FREEDOM if you don't protect your nation accordingly, you really need border security and you need people that just travels around arresting illegals and those that hire illegals (you need very hard punishment for those).
 Quoting: AltSwede


This


Listen to the Swede. All of their women are being stolen by migrants and their culture destroyed, while the Swedish male is demonized and encouraged to act like a little sissy.
 Quoting: Gary Numale


You really should look to Sweden as the canary in the coal mine, that's our role in all this, I see the beginnings of all the shit that happened in Sweden happening in the US.

You will go down the same route if you do not protect your borders, arrest all the illegals, stop people like Soros from doing what they do, any means necessary.
And of course very hard punishment for those that hire illegals, so hard it will make a person think ten times before he even attempts to hire an illegal.

If not you'll go the same way as Sweden, though you guys will probably survive because you got guns, but your nation will in any case be ripped to shreds. From that anything can rise and probably will rise, all sorts of different states. Bad shit all around.

These Freedom cacas are dumb, they don't see what must be done.Don't just critisize the man for attempting solutions, give him a way to build that wall to protect your lands.
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IMHO, the Freedom Caucus issuing this opinion is telling the president that his political strategy is correct and don't blow it with the impatience of going the emergency funding route.

Force the Democrats to change their narrative. Force the Democrats to admit they're wrong. Force the Democrats to fund a border security SYSTEM, which includes a barrier of some kind.
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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
They are just doing what it takes to stop the wall while doing what it takes to destroy "freedom". Nowadays in politics, if you want to know what a group stands against, look for the main point they stand for.

"freedom" = destroy freedom.

"progress" = progressing backwards into a black hole.
 Quoting: crustalfailure


The Freedom Caucus? Seriously?
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communism = freedom
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I guess the Freedom Caucus didn't take the same history classes I had where we were taught that the formation of the Federal Government was for the defense of the states, and that was the President's main focus.

Now all these illegals trying to get in to get free stuff off the tax payer's back is in my opinion is an invasion of our country and President Trump under the Constitution has the right to build the WALL.

F__K them commie bastards, they wouldn't know a Patriot ever.

Interestingly, how many have donated to the GoFundMe Trump Wall?

My bet would be NONE!
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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
Freedom Caucus? More like Fry dumb caca.

There will be NO FREEDOM if you don't protect your nation accordingly, you really need border security and you need people that just travels around arresting illegals and those that hire illegals (you need very hard punishment for those).
 Quoting: AltSwede


This


Listen to the Swede. All of their women are being stolen by migrants and their culture destroyed, while the Swedish male is demonized and encouraged to act like a little sissy.
 Quoting: Gary Numale


clappa
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Electing President Donald J. Trump Is The Revolution!!! Hell Yeah!!!
America must have 3 new Constitutional Amendments...
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Real patriots know what’s up. Continue with your preps. Don’t be pulled into globalist tactics of divide and concur. Strength in unity. When we go one we go all, including our tards. Fuck the grasshoppers.

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I want to hear it from
Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, and Louie Gohmert.
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A core group of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus is urging President Donald Trump against the explosive step of declaring a national emergency to build his wall.

Multiple Republicans in the conservative group have privately raised their concerns with the Trump administration, fearing it would lead to a years-long legal standoff that Democrats could win while setting a dangerous precedent for the presidency, according to more than a dozen lawmakers and GOP aides. They want Trump to hold out for a deal with Democrats, regardless of how long the partial government shutdown drags on.

Trump’s possible pursuit of an emergency declaration on the border divided the caucus during an animated meeting Wednesday night, according to lawmakers who attended the meeting. Members wrestled with constitutional concerns. GOP Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan was reportedly particularly outspoken. Searching for an alternative, the group kicked around other, more legally sound ways for Trump to raise revenue for the wall.

“I do see the potential for national emergencies being used for every single thing that we face in the future where we can’t reach an agreement. That’s the slippery slope that I’m concerned about,” Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally, told POLITICO on Thursday. “The administration is well aware of the ability to use national emergency [powers] and the reluctance to do so from House members.”

The president’s approach is putting House conservatives — who spent years railing against President Barack Obama for alleged executive overreach, particularly on immigration — in a serious bind. It’s also one of conservatives’ first battles in their new minority, where the once-powerful House Freedom Caucus now hold far less leverage in the House.

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just NWO commie sell outs that is all.. why all the horse shit about freedom when they want to take it all away from us? Do they think we are that dumb?
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


the Freedom Caucus? "NWO commie sellouts"?

seriously?
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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
Maybe we AMERICANS
just should ACCEPT the responsibility of ALL WHO ILLEGALLY INVADE
OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY
and PROVIDE their EVERY NEED AND WANT
to ALL THE FOREIGN NATIONS
STEET PARASITES and PRISONERS
so MORE and MORE and MORE AND ALL WILL COME.
(successful citizens of foreign countries do not parasite like these fucking mexicans etc. so AMERICA gets the WORTHLESS and most CRIMINALLY INSANE)
BUT
We MUST OBEY and PAY
We are AMERICANS
Democrats know what is BEST FOR US.
AMERICAN (TRUE) CITIZENS must BOW DOWN
WORK and PROVIDE
to all INVADERS
for they are SUPERIOR
Democrats will make SURE
AMERICANS ARE LAST.

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The People have made it clear they want the wall.

What more is there to discuss?
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it's all mental masturbation.

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Re: Freedom Caucus members tell Trump to back off wall emergency
Maybe we AMERICANS
just should ACCEPT the responsibility of ALL WHO ILLEGALLY INVADE
OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY
and PROVIDE their EVERY NEED AND WANT
to ALL THE FOREIGN NATIONS
STEET PARASITES and PRISONERS
so MORE and MORE and MORE AND ALL WILL COME.
(successful citizens of foreign countries do not parasite like these fucking mexicans etc. so AMERICA gets the WORTHLESS and most CRIMINALLY INSANE)
BUT
We MUST OBEY and PAY
We are AMERICANS
Democrats know what is BEST FOR US.
AMERICAN (TRUE) CITIZENS must BOW DOWN
WORK and PROVIDE
to all INVADERS
for they are SUPERIOR
Democrats will make SURE
AMERICANS ARE LAST.
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Here is your invasion. Legally. With chain migration.

Thread: Breitbart: TRUMP SHOCK: ‘PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP’ COMING FOR MORE FOREIGNERS
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They better stop being pussies and do their job of protecting America.
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They are running out of chances to do that. While the MSM may not cover it, the masses are seeing behind the mask as the traitors become more desperate. Critical Mass is closing in.

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So, in the military budget, do they have to account for everything manufactured and bought for the military, how many planes can be flown during the budget period, how much gas can be used, how many bombs can be dropped, what repairs can be done to barracks down to the penny? How is what is basically a fence/gate at this point any different? It has to do with national security.
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They better stop being pussies and do their job of protecting America.
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They are running out of chances to do that. While the MSM may not cover it, the masses are seeing behind the mask as the traitors become more desperate. Critical Mass is closing in.

TPHSmile
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It's coming.
Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
Electing President Donald J. Trump Is The Revolution!!! Hell Yeah!!!
America must have 3 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
Crooked Hillary - Lock Her Up... Lock Her Up !!!
Obama- A Lawless marxist-islamic.
Democrats are a loose knit group of ideologues who only share the common goal of destroying our Constitutional Republic. They should be agitated against each other until they splinter and eat each other.
All the marxists-islamics, Drug Addicts, Pedos, and Homos love Hillary and hate President Trump.
All Pedos And Their Supporters Must Face Justice And Be Publicly Hanged.
Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.