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Who are we in the afterlife when we die?

 
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Who are we in the afterlife when we die?
Those who believe in the afterlife usually think they will be the same person in spirit form, but is that true?

When we are born on Earth, our identity/personality/character is all made up by our upbringing and surroundings.
And if reincarnation is real, then we have numerous different identities. So who are we really in the spirit realm?

When we die, and if there is an afterlife, will we even recognize who that person is? Will we be surprised? I'm scared/creeped out thinking about it.
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Good question. But it is explained by some that we are part of an Oversoul, our higher self, who sends out parts of itself to live physical lives so that it can experience many things that help it to become a more advanced Spirit. The Oversoul is who you really are, and the parts played out on earth as your reincarnations are just temporary persons who will be incorporated into your Oversoul. What you are in the afterlife, immediately after your death, is the person you just were, but as soon as you reincarnate, that person gets incorporated into your Oversoul and is no longer an individual.
There are other variations on this theory, but to me it is the best one that they can use to explain how reincarnating into someone else is not the immediate and permanent death of the person you just were.
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Those who believe in the afterlife usually think they will be the same person in spirit form, but is that true?

When we are born on Earth, our identity/personality/character is all made up by our upbringing and surroundings.
And if reincarnation is real, then we have numerous different identities. So who are we really in the spirit realm?

When we die, and if there is an afterlife, will we even recognize who that person is? Will we be surprised? I'm scared/creeped out thinking about it.
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Reincarnation is not real, so stop worrying about that. We will be the same persons in the afterlife we are here, and we become in appearance like 25 years old, not the old age we died as. But as you meet and greet your loved ones on the other side, they may alter their appearance at first sight to be more immediately recognizable to you.
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You never merge with someone else. In a sense your Higher Self is your parent and you are the child. Infinite part of infinity.

You share all that you've learnt good and bad with the cosmos, with everyone. Even the bad instructs, what our core beings can't take and how much damage children endure to their psyches in order to be turned into monsters. We learn the positive environments all souls need to develop and prosper. We start to gain wisdom and grow up as a whole. This entire level of existence.

There is another level in infinity, that already made it out past the divide or duality universes and dimensions and that went through what we're going through to grow exponentially larger with more understanding and are kazillions X kazillions more advanced than any cilization in the highest dimensions here.

And ahead of them in infinity is even a Higher Level that graduated from that eutopic existence.

Infinite progression with groups of realms in different universes and Beyond universes as we think of them. And infinite levels or types of Beyonds.

Everyone progresses a bit more.

We're bringing info back to our Soul. There is an oversoul, ie you're projecting in from a part of yourself and then there is your Higher Self. And Higher Self's Higher Self, like infinite fractals springing forth from fractals. You are your oversoul, your larger, separate from Parent and Grandparent Higher Self to Source.

Do you choose a particular avatar. I believe you can change your avatar or appearance for any set of people you wish to hang with because you have family from all over the universe, perceptionally in linear time, ie past/present/future, but in no time, simultaneous lifetimes and they all are loved.

I don't believe you are fixed in your avatar, mind creates.


Not everyone joins up with their Greater Soul, that is the thing. Just like Greater Souls are distinct from Higher Self and so forth and we always retain individuality.

A friend had an NDE where he did immediately Become his Greater Soul and was still himself just more of himself and when he returned he felt such a loss, as if he'd be nerfed enormously.

However, Spirit Child, how do Spirits produce children?

If you send for a tiny percentage of your Infinite Self, Higher Self, 0.00000....(to infinity)1% of self, into a DVD infinite holographic universe movie, and you believe its real, that person becomes their own self.

Some souls go back to their Real Soul, some souls grow up from their new self image. That one that was sent out into the cosmos, isn't even yourself, that's your Greater Soul, your real self.

And that Self when established enough and grown enough in higher grades, can do the same thing.

Here's the thing, your Higher Self can send out many different slivers of self, of imagination, in many different universes. But the result is, many different Souls growing up, related but not the same souls.

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There is another concept in quantum mechanics that should be understood in an infinite system, multiverse, with infinite densities.

If you drop a portion of anything into an infinite system, different densities of itself exist.

So you're always progressing forward infinitely while yet another portion of self always takes your place.

And by the token, there are many earth's and many versions of ourselves.

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I'm curious, this oversoul you chat about, and I'm in no way demeaning your approach or views

what accountability would it have if say ..................

it was Hitler or some other heinous person, now surely this can't be just an experience to share?

Or lets say an extreme paedophile, many.....many childrens lives destroyed here on earth, is that an experience to share?

Because surely the good experiences equal the not so good, if you know what I mean?


I don't mean this in any derogatory way, I'm just curious how to justify ones actions.

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We are likely born as whoever we despise in this life. Can't wait to be a liberal.
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After we die, we'll be dead forever. Enjoy your one real life right here on earth. Be happy. Try to do some good.
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

That's the logical approach.
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I'm curious, this oversoul you chat about, and I'm in no way demeaning your approach or views

what accountability would it have if say ..................

it was Hitler or some other heinous person, now surely this can't be just an experience to share?

Or lets say an extreme paedophile, many.....many childrens lives destroyed here on earth, is that an experience to share?

Because surely the good experiences equal the not so good, if you know what I mean?


And I don't mean this in any derogatory way, I'm just curious how to justify ones actions.
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The oversoul, not the Higher Self as that one is graduate group with the Groups way beyond our dualities. But your real self and greater soul, who I've experienced giving me checkups and knew was me. This sliver of me was the dumbed down portion and I always joke we're kept like mushrooms in the dark and fed alot of BS from the controllers who want to enslave this sliver of self and use it for energy for themselves.

But when the veil between you and yourself lifts, you just remember more and are more of yourself.

Hitler is a just a person, whether or not he was human is a question, not all the people here are human, some are ETs, some are hybrids, some maybe robotic even.

The planets are managed by ETs,who are also people. And even the Good haven't really passed the tests here. We're giving that information to the Good to pass the tests in the multiverse universe, so we and they can all go BEYOND what we think of as universes.

We're considered very brave to be here, whilst many came into to help a loved one through, and didn't really approve of them coming in. Because many higher groups in the multiverse do not approve of learning in horrific ways, that you can't build heaven on hell.

But free will exists and it may be true that some lessons can only be learnt in the free for all, and that immediately means, people had to come into rescue them.

And in infinity with the Good Family Beyond Universes in the Highest Light Realms, they also had this as learning, and so forth and so on in all Groups.

Hitler if a real person, human, hybrid or ET, and I can't remember him, in this walk is probably going through what he participated in, then he learns that he counts still and starts to ask for help instead of living in shame, then he begins to share and learn from all the participated in and will probably have reincarnated again, here or somewhere else.


If the dark side nabs your soul and you did very bad things, sometimes you don't face what you've done and you get promoted even and sent back as a worse agent for them.

Until they hit rock bottom and meet their bungee cord, where they have to crawl back up because every soul has a bungee cord to a certain extent.

Love would never come in other wise.

Infinity has many infinite portions and places and dark areas too where Consciousness is attempting to heal.

But again, in infinity, as portions are reclaimed of souls and densities, the other infinite portions move up and in to the same spot.

Everything exists infinitely.

But we can move on.

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Thank you for your reply, I'm going to re-read and let it sink in.
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Re: Who are we in the afterlife when we die?
... only one way to find out...
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You will be the same being you were when you entered into this experience, but will have evolved and gained new experience as a result of being here.

The true self is and always has been you in immersion, but what you really are is the awareness and consciousness experiencing the body. The body is just a vehicle that facilitates the experience and is not you. Just a flesh suit you are wearing.
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The thing is, when you graduate or bring your family out of here, another you will take your place, and is that person literally yourself? Not necessarily!

All places and persons exist infinitely, and all densities of this and all multiverses exist infinitely the same but varying and different as well. Person/place/thing, infinite variety as well.

And we're all infinite beings. So not necessarily are we that other person. They become more akin to soul clones, and grow into their own persons.

And, we're in a system of Infinite Progression and Infinite Learning even when we graduate to Beyond.

If you can finally climb out of the holographic television multiverse to the light realms BEYOND, and grow there, helping and learning and understanding more, you will emerge from that hologram and screen into yet another place and then emerge again, infinitely.....to infinity.

There is point when you have grown up and no longer have to forget who you are. You could reincarnate anywhere to help if that is your chosen mission, and never forget yourself, because you no longer can fall.

Higher Self, and your Greater Soul and your other Forms or Selves, can literally in the flesh or seeming flesh, in material form, sit at a round table and share all your information if its allowed.

That can be experienced if its allowed. And for some they reach a level of soul development where it is allowed.

Someone shared just those meetings years ago.

And then when my real Self in this cosmos, gave myself a physical checkup and yet was so eager to get back to their better locale, less dense than earth, I realized that was true, and it could be done.

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If all those slivers of our Oversoul, our previous incarnations, and everyone else’s, are all still there and living in the afterlife, then the idea of an Oversoul and even of reincarnation becomes mere speculation to us even there, because our Oversoul would be such a high level entity it would be beyond our slivered limited awareness to know much about it. It really seems irrelevant to our current development, as the slivered parts/personalities are in effect continuing to live and develop themselves as individuals. So in effect we each continue to live on in the afterlife. “We” do not reincarnate. Only our Oversouls are involved with that. It is not necessary for us be concerned about the other parts of our Oversoul.

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Those who believe in the afterlife usually think they will be the same person in spirit form, but is that true?

When we are born on Earth, our identity/personality/character is all made up by our upbringing and surroundings.
And if reincarnation is real, then we have numerous different identities. So who are we really in the spirit realm?

When we die, and if there is an afterlife, will we even recognize who that person is? Will we be surprised? I'm scared/creeped out thinking about it.
 Quoting: JG80


If you make it to Heaven, you will forget most of your experiences on Earth. You will however still get to communicate with loved ones from your life on Earth who also make it to Heaven. All sexual attraction and desires are gone once you are in Heaven (because there is no procreation).

If you instead go to Hell, you will be constantly reminded of your sins and your mistakes while you are being tortured!

Repent of your sins, learn to hear God's voice, obey Him, and endure until the end. This is the path to eternal salvation!
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After we die, we'll be dead forever. Enjoy your one real life right here on earth. Be happy. Try to do some good.
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If we only live once and will be dead forever then why should we try to do some good? The logical thing to do would be to do whatever we could to get as much money as we can to make our one life as enjoyable as possible.
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Better question: what are we when the body dies?

Answer: spirits.
That which does not kill us makes us weirder
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I am not what I have been.

I am what I am RIGHT NOW.

I am this consciousness now, this perception.
That which does not kill us makes us weirder
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Those who believe in the afterlife usually think they will be the same person in spirit form, but is that true?

When we are born on Earth, our identity/personality/character is all made up by our upbringing and surroundings.
And if reincarnation is real, then we have numerous different identities. So who are we really in the spirit realm?

When we die, and if there is an afterlife, will we even recognize who that person is? Will we be surprised? I'm scared/creeped out thinking about it.
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You will be the same person, and more.
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After we die, we'll be dead forever. Enjoy your one real life right here on earth. Be happy. Try to do some good.
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Thousands and thousands and thousands of people report after death experiences. Are they all liars?
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


Blame it on my ADD, baby...Sail


The election of Donald Trump didn't cause the hatred displayed by the progressive liberal left and democratic party. The election of Donald Trump exposed it.
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After we die, we'll be dead forever. Enjoy your one real life right here on earth. Be happy. Try to do some good.
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If we only live once and will be dead forever then why should we try to do some good? The logical thing to do would be to do whatever we could to get as much money as we can to make our one life as enjoyable as possible.
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Would that make you happy?
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Since our identity changes with every reincarnation, there is in effect no afterlife for us. Because a new identity is a new person and replaces the previous person. Reincarnation is the death of the individual that you currently are. So stay In the afterlife, don’t try to reincarnate.
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Since our identity changes with every reincarnation, there is in effect no afterlife for us. Because a new identity is a new person and replaces the previous person. Reincarnation is the death of the individual that you currently are. So stay In the afterlife, don’t try to reincarnate.
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you are forced to reincarnate by organic machines.
this is a mental and spirit matrix slavement reincarnation system controlled by aliens and monitored by an advanced interdimensional artificial intelligence.

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If you have ever left your family or parent with anger and did not speak to them for many years, experienced much rough seas on your perilous journey and had no one around to love you or care...only terrible people who treated you badly, then had the opportunity to return home one day! Home to the place where someone once loved you. The person you left as is gone. Your loved one (s) greet you and give you the best they have. That's who you can hope to be when you leave this meat suit.
Fear is a LIAR!
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Since our identity changes with every reincarnation, there is in effect no afterlife for us. Because a new identity is a new person and replaces the previous person. Reincarnation is the death of the individual that you currently are. So stay In the afterlife, don’t try to reincarnate.
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you are forced to reincarnate by organic machines.
this is a mental and spirit matrix slavement reincarnation system controlled by aliens and monitored by an advanced interdimensional artificial intelligence.
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They might tell you that, but they probably are not that in charge of things as they like to claim they are.
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for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.


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