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Christianity is so misunderstood

 
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Christianity is so misunderstood
The simple way to put it. Christianity is very much misunderstood for one main reason that all else can easily stem from. Christianity is all about a relationship with God. Just by looking at GLP and several of the posts and responses, it is clear to me that so many only see one side it, not able to see all of it. Yes, I just said that those who do not have that relationship with God can not see or understand as Christians do. This is just the way it is, there is no way around it. Those that live out their relationship with God, are men and women of God. This is versus those that study with out allowing God in their lives. Until they get to that point, they will mock, and berate, and demean, and so on. Once that day comes, and they give their lives to God, they will understand, their eyes of existence will be opened. God bless you all in your endeavors with God, whether it be good or bad.

Too often I have heard people say 'Why would a god allow...' Many have heard this and said this over and over. This is repeated because people are curious. So curious. It is good that people ask this question. Honestly, alot of Christians have come to a low point and asked that. I have when my brother died and for other reasons. It is actually dumb to ask that question, but also healthy. God does allow alot of things to happen that many do not like. Why? It is seriously all part of His plan to draw people in to Him. He won't draw people in by riches and comfort. He draws people in through love. Christianity is all about a relationship with God. But here is the other huge thing that everyone misses out on (unless you have a relationship with God). God is love. Can not be seen, felt, or physically interacted with. He is pure. No one can understand. We can get a small glimpse in this life of God. I will stake my existence as a human on this, anyone that experiences God in a relationship with Him, will never be the same, will be enlightened, will grow, will be better(not by circumstance, rather in spirit), will be affected and influence others. God loves, is love, is waiting. For you. Start small. Don't care if you mock me. Dealt with that all of my life. I love those that mock me. Because I was a mocker.
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Thread: Jesus Christ is how much God loves you and how far He has gone to show you.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons


How do you know? Have you read the bible?
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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They shoulda done wrote it better then eh? If "God" cared so much then he should come down, explained it very clearly and set us straight dontya think?
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Christianity is not just misunderstood; it's intentionally misrepresented.

It should come as no surprise, though. They called Jesus 'Beelzebub' during his earthly ministry. When has darkness ever comprehended light?
Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560)

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God is fire, books get lit if he is near.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro


ya gotz that right!
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
 Quoting: shoeshy


Ah, the extortion test. It doesn't really seem to be about who Christ actually is now does it?
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God is fire, books get lit if he is near.
 Quoting: Balloons


Again, who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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The simple way to put it. Christianity is very much misunderstood for one main reason that all else can easily stem from. Christianity is all about a relationship with God. Just by looking at GLP and several of the posts and responses, it is clear to me that so many only see one side it, not able to see all of it. Yes, I just said that those who do not have that relationship with God can not see or understand as Christians do. This is just the way it is, there is no way around it. Those that live out their relationship with God, are men and women of God. This is versus those that study with out allowing God in their lives. Until they get to that point, they will mock, and berate, and demean, and so on. Once that day comes, and they give their lives to God, they will understand, their eyes of existence will be opened. God bless you all in your endeavors with God, whether it be good or bad.

Too often I have heard people say 'Why would a god allow...' Many have heard this and said this over and over. This is repeated because people are curious. So curious. It is good that people ask this question. Honestly, alot of Christians have come to a low point and asked that. I have when my brother died and for other reasons. It is actually dumb to ask that question, but also healthy. God does allow alot of things to happen that many do not like. Why? It is seriously all part of His plan to draw people in to Him. He won't draw people in by riches and comfort. He draws people in through love. Christianity is all about a relationship with God. But here is the other huge thing that everyone misses out on (unless you have a relationship with God). God is love. Can not be seen, felt, or physically interacted with. He is pure. No one can understand. We can get a small glimpse in this life of God. I will stake my existence as a human on this, anyone that experiences God in a relationship with Him, will never be the same, will be enlightened, will grow, will be better(not by circumstance, rather in spirit), will be affected and influence others. God loves, is love, is waiting. For you. Start small. Don't care if you mock me. Dealt with that all of my life. I love those that mock me. Because I was a mocker.
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Some people have realized that the Gospel tells a story of world-conquest.

The confusion arises because the story is told in both allegory and metaphor, as well as simile (the third part of the 'Trinity' tale, God's spell, word, story).

Jesus says "It is done" when he is crucified, showing that the human understanding of the canonical writers is flawed, since they can only comprehend what has happened by God (Jesus) becoming responsible for everything and everyone in the world, having conquering it ("For I have defeated the world").

His 'death' is to the human condition, which is fallen, and flawed. He is now perfectly God and perfectly Man in the Holy Spirit (the continuity of time, beginning-and-end, Alpha-Omega).

Other people are only beginning the realize the enormity of it.

Some see it and reject it.

There is a narrow gate.

Few will enter.
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Some people have realized that the Gospel tells a story of world-conquest.

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False.

The Gospel calls people out of this world to die to themselves and into The Faith.

My kingdom is not of this world.

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Re: Christianity is so misunderstood
Christianity is not just misunderstood; it's intentionally misrepresented.

It should come as no surprise, though. They called Jesus 'Beelzebub' during his earthly ministry. When has darkness ever comprehended light?
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God is fire, books get lit if he is near.
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Again, who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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He can be anyone
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Some people have realized that the Gospel tells a story of world-conquest.

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False.

The Gospel calls people out of this world to die to themselves and into The Faith.

My kingdom is not of this world.
 Quoting: shoeshy


It was his conquest of the world, his transcendence, that brought about a Kingdom ABOVE IT. Hence, it is not of this world, truly. But the world below it is subject to his will.
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Re: Christianity is so misunderstood
Yes. Especially the god concept in it.
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What’s to misunderstand. You think a human man is God. End of story.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons


Your response proves the OP's point! -if you bothered to read it.

Just to add my 5 cents:

True Christians don't care about Heaven or Hell; they are simply "in love" with God, and all that matters to them is their relationship, not their future destination. Within their person limitations, everything they do is toward this one heartfelt goal.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons


Your response proves the OP's point! -if you bothered to read it.

Just to add my 5 cents:

True Christians don't care about Heaven or Hell; they are simply "in love" with God, and all that matters to them is their relationship, not their future destination. Within their person limitations, everything they do is toward this one heartfelt goal.
 Quoting: TGus


Amen!

hf
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
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I truly understand why you would see that. A lot went south through history. The beauty of Christianity, however, is that you do not need Nicea, or the Bible. Abraham had absolutely nothing. Nothing! Yet he had a great mysterious relationship with God and put his trust in someone he could not see.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro

All religion is full of bias, hate and ego with Salvation as the hook and bait.
 Quoting: Balloons


This reaction is normal if a relationship with God is absent. Just like math. If you take a vital part out of a formula, you have an error, a missing piece. If God is in your formula, you have the missing part of the formula that redefines how you see everything, including the hate, bias, and such.
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Yes. Especially the god concept in it.
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God can be easily understood when surrendered to.
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What’s to misunderstand. You think a human man is God. End of story.
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The creation can not be the creator. God (Love) came down to become his creation, yet still God, yet fully creation. That is love. That..is...love...
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Some people have realized that the Gospel tells a story of world-conquest.

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If there would be any world conquest by God, it would be nothing but love. His kind of love. I wouldn't mind the world being taken over by that, would you?
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What’s to misunderstand. You think a human man is God. End of story.
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The creation can not be the creator. God (Love) came down to become his creation, yet still God, yet fully creation. That is love. That..is...love...
 Quoting: End Game


It is because of statements like this that Christianity became misunderstood.

GOD is the creator AND creation.....we are this.....the image created of US. Truth only harms the religious dogma.

Confusion is the mystery.....why because men remain afraid of the TRUTH OF GODS WORD.

It explains itself.
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God the creator is fully creation......MAN is that IMAGE.

It is anti-Christ to say that Christ is not come in FLESH.

Not only the flesh of Jesus.....because he and his are the head.....and she the bride is his body.

WE are THE CHRIST hidden in plain sight in the flesh that men deny.

The time is NOW for the awakening from the 'deep sleep' of confusion....to set WE/US the BRIDE free...

free from false religious dogma that sets up the man-kind for failure.....
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Christianity is Witnessed rather plainly here:
In Matt 22:1-14, Jesus Tells us What It's All About...

1. And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,


3. And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6. And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


8. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.


11. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12. And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


14. For many are called, but few are chosen.



It's ALL There, if you have the heart to See/Hear The Gospel...


These are The Final Moments...
Do you understand that The Strait Gate has long ago Closed?


Those who can't "understand" that Father Wants Relationship With Them, well.... They are Failed Vessels.

Everything Of-Christ IS About HIS Father...

Notice that The King's Son is not mentioned in the parable?
Everything of Christianity IS About Coming Unto The Father.

Have to have your Born-Again Heart To Abide With HIM. If we were Given (By The Father) To KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS, then we were Invited=Called To The Wedding Feast...

Your Ezekiel 36:26-27 "New Heart Of Flesh" IS your Wedding Garment. "Friend" was a wedding-crasher. Desperately wanted to Be There; but... Friend is Rejected!

Do you Love God enough to Trust HIM Fully with every aspect of your life, all you are and all you ever will be?

Then, Tell HIM...
Come Unto The Father and Give HIM your all...


YOU are ALL That Matters...
IF Father Has Called YOU, then Answering HIM IS The Only Purpose for your life!

Of course, you have Free-Will; and that's why you have to surrender self and self-will Unto Father-God to Become HIS...

Jesus Witnesses in Matt 13:11-15 that those who seek Knowledge Of God with their intellect are NOT those HE IS Seeking...


Christians "misunderstand" because they aren't willing to Trust God.

Others "misunderstand" because they weren't Called.

If you are concerned about why God allows what HE Allows, then you are one who likely will not responde to HIS Call... Coming Unto HIM means you KNOW that HE IS Perfect! That HE IS God Almighty, and HIS Will For You is better than anything you might dream for yourself...

Until you are an Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, there's no KNOWING HIM or HIS Will For You...j

This is either on your heart, and you recognize that my witness is True; or you'll likely just never Come Unto The Father...
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From Matthew ch 13...

10. And the disciples came, and said unto him,
Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.



Got to "prove it in The Word"?
If Born-Again, you would KNOW The Voice of The Father and God The Holy Spirit. Think you can't Trust God? More like you are UNWILLING... There's that carnal-heart exercising your free-will....

"Marvel not that I Say unto you, Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" John 3:7..... THIS IS The ONLY Scripture where Jesus uses MUST as a Directive...

But you're not!
You got no witness of Ezekiel 36:26-27
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

You Never Came Unto The Father....



The Strait Gate closed in 2004...
Almost 15yrs Father Has Continued To Call, To Invite You To The Wedding Feast...

Figure you're gonna just crash the event? Figure that God Knows You Meant To Answer? You Just NEVER Did!


Worth trying to understand this in These Final Moments...
Worth contemplating the Action You'd Have Take to Come Unto The Father....

Faith w/o works (action) IS Dead!
Your heart, which HE Called, never manifested itself Unto HIM Though The Love You Claim To Have....


Got to Surrender to Become a Partaker In Father's Victory!
Got to Die Unto This World, to LIVE In HIM and Through HIM IN This Life and that to come...


Sad thing is IT's YOU Who Misunderstands...
If you Loved God As Much As You Claim, You Would KNOW HIM and Have Been Enabled to DO HIS Will...

But whatever conjecture you are comfortable with...
A Failed-Vessel needs some comfort, especially if they are clueless.
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The problem is that so many of you think only you have that relationship with God, which is simply untrue. Somewhere it went wrong, perhaps in something like Nicea, for political expediency.
 Quoting: syncro


I truly understand why you would see that. A lot went south through history. The beauty of Christianity, however, is that you do not need Nicea, or the Bible. Abraham had absolutely nothing. Nothing! Yet he had a great mysterious relationship with God and put his trust in someone he could not see.
 Quoting: End Game


The Bible is the history of God's interaction with mankind over +4000 years.

How is it that there are hundreds of historical people and archeological finds of places that match what the Bible says?

At the same time it also includes all the knowledge needed for Salvation.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.





GLP