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Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity

 
MySoul

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01/15/2019 12:31 PM

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Yep. I had a suspicion that the "coach" was a pedo.
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MySoul

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01/15/2019 12:33 PM

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It doesn't bother me HOW they got them out. It's how they felt they needed to LIE to the parents about it. It shows how far this world has turned into a snowflake ridden pansy party.

You need to knock my kid out or they'll die? Knock away. At least they have a chance that way.
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Seagull Lake

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01/15/2019 12:36 PM
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remember when ELON MUSK called him Pedo guy??? I do... and he was right.
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Yeah, I remember that.

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01/15/2019 12:48 PM
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Was Elon's brainstorming for personal submarines really such a lousy idea?
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Yes. Apparently there were bends that weren't going to be navigable that way, like a vertical u-shaped bend. And time was of the essence, since it was the start of monsoon season and the flooding would supposedly only get worse while the boys' condition would deteriorate more.

What they did worked. Not as nice as a personal submarine idea, but it worked nonetheless, and there was no loss of life, which is the most important thing.

I don't see how it's really any different than restraining any sort of emergency victims who could be a hazard to both themselves and to their rescuers.
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01/15/2019 12:53 PM
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Pretty hard to argue with the results. Everybody trapped lived (save one rescuer.)

The coach had been a monk and knew how to meditate. He was able to help the children on a psychological level to survive what would have made most people go insane.
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01/15/2019 12:59 PM
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Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity
I'm not even surprised by the lying to the parents, if they thought this was the best avenue for rescue and were concerned at all about it being impeded and delayed by the reactions of hysterical parents, none of whom I'd assume had any sort of familiarity with cave diving. If I recall correctly, not even all the kids were swimmers.

If time weren't such a major factor, maybe I could see being more forthright with the parents. Dealing with possibly hysterical people is never an easy thing, though, obviously.

Sometimes I think some lying is ok for a higher good. But I'm not a black and white moralist.
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01/15/2019 01:14 PM

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Pretty hard to argue with the results. Everybody trapped lived (save one rescuer.)

The coach had been a monk and knew how to meditate. He was able to help the children on a psychological level to survive what would have made most people go insane.
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01/15/2019 01:53 PM
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Ellenjay

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01/15/2019 06:04 PM

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"as a diver i got to laugh at the Oxygen comment in your thread lol"
Never mentioned using PURE OXYGEN.

I said OXYGEN. What else would YOU suggest Nitrous Oxide ?,
Carbon Dioxide perhaps ?

The body requires a constant source of Oxygen for sustained life.
If you can suggest a way of extracting them that does not include a supply of Oxygen for the journey
I would be really interested in hearing it.


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Deplorable Klinger

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01/15/2019 06:27 PM
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"as a diver i got to laugh at the Oxygen comment in your thread lol"
Never mentioned using PURE OXYGEN.

I said OXYGEN. What else would YOU suggest Nitrous Oxide ?,
Carbon Dioxide perhaps ?

The body requires a constant source of Oxygen for sustained life.
If you can suggest a way of extracting them that does not include a supply of Oxygen for the journey
I would be really interested in hearing it.


Stay well
 Quoting: Ellenjay


TIL I learned something new. I tried to Scuba dive in my 20s but I had too much difficulty equalizing pressure in my ears gave it up after a few dives and stuck to snorkling.

I remember reading that before Cousteau invented the Aqua-lung rebreather, they did use other systems that include purer oxygen.

Apparently in the modern era, they use a mixture that is richer than compressed air.

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01/16/2019 05:07 PM
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Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity
remember when ELON MUSK called him Pedo guy??? I do... and he was right.
 Quoting: KillinTHEmyth

Why would we not trust Elon Musk? Look:

Chinese Zodiac: Pig

2019 is a Year of the Pig according to the Chinese zodiac, and it's an Earth Pig year.

"Pigs are diligent, compassionate, and generous. They have great concentration: once they set a goal, they will devote all their energy to achieving it. Though Pigs rarely seek help from others, they will not refuse to give others a hand. Pigs never suspect trickery, so they are easily fooled.
Generally speaking, Pigs are relatively calm when facing trouble. No matter how difficult the problems are, they can handle things properly and carefully. They have a great sense of responsibility to finish what they are engaged in."


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