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China has started growing COTTON on the far side of the moon (and potatoes are next!)

 
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Next they’ll send some Black astronauts for harvest time?
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Re: China has started growing COTTON on the far side of the moon (and potatoes are next!)
Uh... no.

Why the 'far-side' of the moon? I'll tell you why... because we have the tech to be able to see it if it were on the Earth facing side. (proof positive it is a BS stunt- and we dare not call them on it or they will spill the beans on our lies back in the 70's)
 Quoting: Nero the Zero


Wrong. We have a probe orbiting the moon right now. It's already seen the landing site prior to the landing:
[link to lroc.sese.asu.edu]
Within the next couple of weeks it will image the site again and we will see if there's really a probe on the surface or not.
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Such total fabricated bullshit.
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I agree i don't believe any of this bullshit.
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its no worse than cottonseed and maybe better, but it is cheap and they put it in everything now.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


Not true. If you ate even a small amount of rapeseed oil before processing, it would kill you.

Whatever your health amounts to after eating that crap is directly proportional to how well whoever prepared it got the poisons out. They don't get it all, I used to deep fry in that crap and wondered why the deep fryer always gave me huge headaches and made me feel sick and weak.

It is TRASH oil, there's no way out of it.
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The name for rapeseed comes from the Latin word rapum meaning turnip. Turnip, rutabaga, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, and mustard are related to rapeseed. Rapeseed belongs to the genus Brassica. Brassica oilseed varieties are some of the oldest plants cultivated by humanity, with documentation of its use in India 4,000 years ago, and use in China and Japan 2,000 years ago.[2]:55 Its use in Northern Europe for oil lamps is documented to the 13th century.[2] Its use was limited until the development of steam power, when machinists found rapeseed oil clung to water- and steam-washed metal surfaces better than other lubricants.[citation needed] World War II caused high demand for the oil as a lubricant for the rapidly increasing number of steam engines in naval and merchant ships.[citation needed] When the war blocked European and Asian sources of rapeseed oil, a critical shortage developed, and Canada began to expand its limited rapeseed production. Rapeseed oil extracts were first put on the market in 1956–1957 as food products, but these suffered from several unacceptable characteristics. Rapeseed oil had a distinctive taste and a disagreeable greenish color, due to the presence of chlorophyll. It also contained a high concentration of erucic acid.

nothing in the above says it is poison or harmful?

further down I see this:

Canola oil is made at a processing facility by slightly heating and then crushing the seed.[22] Almost all commercial canola oil is then extracted using hexane solvent[23] which is recovered at the end of processing. Finally, the canola oil is refined using water precipitation and organic acid to remove gums and free fatty acids, filtering to remove color, and deodorizing using steam distillation.

does anyone know much about hexane?
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Threw away all my canola
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I use it to soak kindling in to start fires with damp wood. That's a positive use for it.

Really the only thing it's good for is industrial lubrication and fire starting. Horrid for the human body.
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You mean grapeseed oil?
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They're growing plants which require sunlight on the darkside of the moon... Cnn is that you?
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Other biological matter on the Chang'e-4 mission includes cotton, oilseed rape, potato, Arabidopsis, yeast and fruit flies.


 Quoting: SovereignMe


What the hell is oilseed rape?!

That sounds horrifying. I don't want ANY of that happening on the moon! xD
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


Rapeseed oil or oilseed rape is canola oil
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They're growing plants which require sunlight on the darkside of the moon... Cnn is that you?
 Quoting: JooGetOut


There is no "dark side" of the moon. What part of the moon do you think is lit when the moon is new or a thin crescent? The far side. The far side gets just as much light as the near side. Before crying fake news, please educate yourself about basic astronomy using something other than a Pink Floyd album.
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Four words: Van Allen Radiation Belt.

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 Quoting: Nero the Zero

I am amazed it took this long for this tard answer to surface. As if you'd know anything about time and trajectory through the belt and the sensitivity of seeds to radiation.

Go back to your comic book.
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Next they’ll send some Black astronauts for harvest time?
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And pay reparations for all of eternity??
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Oh my god, China just went full potato!ahhh
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If that’s true, pretty cool.

I keep wondering though,

Why the far side?

Are we already fighting for territory, and they wanna claim it?

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Such total fabricated bullshit.
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What the hell is oilseed rape?!

That sounds horrifying. I don't want ANY of that happening on the moon! xD
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


Oilseed rape...is canola. See why they changed the name of that horrible 'food'. It's a garbage oil.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


its no worse than cottonseed and maybe better, but it is cheap and they put it in everything now.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


Not true. If you ate even a small amount of rapeseed oil before processing, it would kill you.

Whatever your health amounts to after eating that crap is directly proportional to how well whoever prepared it got the poisons out. They don't get it all, I used to deep fry in that crap and wondered why the deep fryer always gave me huge headaches and made me feel sick and weak.

It is TRASH oil, there's no way out of it.
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GMO
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Jules Verne wrote a book about going to the moon and they planted MUSTARD there.
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India opened a 7-11 up there too.
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Other biological matter on the Chang'e-4 mission includes cotton, oilseed rape, potato, Arabidopsis, yeast and fruit flies.


 Quoting: SovereignMe


What the hell is oilseed rape?!

That sounds horrifying. I don't want ANY of that happening on the moon! xD
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


rapeseed oil AKA canola. very bad for liver...
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is it the processing method or the plant itself?
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We have a probe orbiting the moon right now.
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Can they upgrade the probe to shoot and destroy their cricket base?
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Four words: Van Allen Radiation Belt.

yawn
 Quoting: Nero the Zero


Which is obviously not capable of sterilizing living material instantly. This is further proof of that. The amount of radiation received from the belts depends very much on trajectory. If you don't linger in them and if you avoid the most intense regions then you've got nothing to worry about.
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this is the line they are pushing now? I remember when the go to answer for the van allen belt question was "duh i dont know why we didnt die from radiation" -
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Chinese landing on 'dark side of the moon' was FAKE

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Nasa squashes claims that China faked landing on the dark side of the moon

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Four words: Van Allen Radiation Belt.

yawn
 Quoting: Nero the Zero


Which is obviously not capable of sterilizing living material instantly. This is further proof of that. The amount of radiation received from the belts depends very much on trajectory. If you don't linger in them and if you avoid the most intense regions then you've got nothing to worry about.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


this is the line they are pushing now? I remember when the go to answer for the van allen belt question was "duh i dont know why we didnt die from radiation" -
 Quoting: NickDick


That was never the answer. I literally keep the answer saved in a text file which I post when the subject comes up.

Here is a plot of how much radiation the astronauts would be expected to receive given Apollo 11's trajectory to the moon, one way. Apollo had an areal density equivalent to about 7~8 g/cm^2:
[link to drive.google.com (secure)]
Less than 1 rad each way, it's harmless, the trapped proton dose from the Van Allen belts is less than a tenth of a rad (so even with the Q factor discussed below, less than a rem of VAB radiation).

By way of comparison, here is the dose you would receive in an Apollo capsule flying the same trajectory as Orion EFT-1's final orbit (though with a slightly higher perigee, SPENVIS won't let you calculate trajectories that go through the atmosphere):
[link to drive.google.com (secure)]
Here's a map of the orbit:
[link to drive.google.com (secure)]
Nearly 10 rads, with the dose almost entirely made up of radiation trapped in the belt. The Q factor on that could be as high as 10 ( [link to www.nrc.gov (secure)] ), so you could be looking at about 100 rem equivalent dose. At that dose with an acute exposure, you're looking at chromosome damage, reduction in white blood cell count, and the onset of radiation sickness within a few hours ( [link to www.atomicarchive.com] ).

So trajectory matters, as does the duration of exposure and the spacecraft's density. The NASA engineer was right; NASA could not have flown astronauts through that particular region of space safely with their old Apollo capsule. They would have had radiation sickness even after just 1 orbit, at the very least. For an unmanned test, it was ideal as a way of giving the capsule a trial by fire, which is what they called that presentation.
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Not true. If you ate even a small amount of rapeseed oil before processing, it would kill you.

Whatever your health amounts to after eating that crap is directly proportional to how well whoever prepared it got the poisons out. They don't get it all, I used to deep fry in that crap and wondered why the deep fryer always gave me huge headaches and made me feel sick and weak.

It is TRASH oil, there's no way out of it.
 Quoting: crustalfailure


Rapeseed oil is in many processed foods and people use it to cook and fry foods.

Rapeseed Oil for Cooking aka Canola Oil Is Used In Frying

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Is this the common core 1st grade thread or the 2nd?
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Cotton suck the nutrients out of the soil like a mo-fo! How... wait, no sun on that side. Shit, lemme read the article.
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ZERO PROOF....IMHO

A camera shot of the landing...but never a single camera aimed back at the Earth before the landing, or at ANY point of the journey....EVER!!!
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