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Has anyone ever built a guitar before? GLP luthier thread

 
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I’m planning on building a guitar with the long term goal of possibly starting a business building custom guitars. Right now I’m just planning on getting a kit or parts from Warmoth and just doing some custom inlays to start.

I’d like to eventually get a full work shop going focusing on mainly electric guitars, but maybe acoustics as well. You can get some pretty nice acoustic kits online from Martin, Stew Mac and Blues Creek Guitars.

Anybody here on GLP a luthier or maybe just built a guitar for fun?
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I know a guy that did it, but with mandolins.

His trick (aside from craftsmanship) was being at all the festivals until he found someone that'd play his axe on stage, even for a song or two, or approach a player after the show and ask their opinion.

Eventually he got some known names playing his brand & he churns 2 or 3 out a year by his hand and couldn't be happier about it.

His setup is fascinating, custom jigs galore after 20 years of doing it.

Good luck, I hope you find as much reward from it. thumbs
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I've thought about it, but never done it. What's wrong with the kits on ebay? Start with kits and then start making your own pieces.
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I know a guy that did it, but with mandolins.

His trick (aside from craftsmanship) was being at all the festivals until he found someone that'd play his axe on stage, even for a song or two, or approach a player after the show and ask their opinion.

Eventually he got some known names playing his brand & he churns 2 or 3 out a year by his hand and couldn't be happier about it.

His setup is fascinating, custom jigs galore after 20 years of doing it.

Good luck, I hope you find as much reward from it. thumbs
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Thanks, I don’t plan on making a living doing it like your friend but if I get good at it I’d like to make a side business of it.
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I've thought about it, but never done it. What's wrong with the kits on ebay? Start with kits and then start making your own pieces.
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Nothing wrong with kits, in the op I said I was going to start off with a kit. As far eBay goes, right now I’d rather stick to kits offered by known kit makers to be safe. I’ll definitely check out kits on eBay to see what’s out there as I’m still in the research phase. Right now I’ve got a little project going to make some coasters out of 1/8” rosewood to practice cutting inlays.
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OP that’s cool as hell. You could turn your passion/hobby into phenomenal success!

Good luck! I envy folks with crafting skills. My eye can only appreciate artistic beauty. I cannot get my hands to create it.

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OP that’s cool as hell. You could turn your passion/hobby into phenomenal success!

Good luck! I envy folks with crafting skills. My eye can only appreciate artistic beauty. I cannot get my hands to create it.

cheers
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Yeah, taking an abstract idea from your mind and turning it into reality is very difficult, especially doing it right and making it good enough you can sell it.
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I hope that you do go ahead and learn how to make guitars, it would probably be a very rewarding experience, a bit like eating food that you grew. Good idea to purchase some kits in order to get a 'feel' for part of the process of construction. I suggest that you get a kit(s) online from Thommann. They are a brilliant company that make a generic line of guitars that punch well above their weight, considering the price.



Or you could buy some pencils. I saw this video a few weeks ago, the finished guitar is played around the 8 minute mark.
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I hope that you do go ahead and learn how to make guitars, it would probably be a very rewarding experience, a bit like eating food that you grew. Good idea to purchase some kits in order to get a 'feel' for part of the process of construction. I suggest that you get a kit(s) online from Thommann. They are a brilliant company that make a generic line of guitars that punch well above their weight, considering the price.



Or you could buy some pencils. I saw this video a few weeks ago, the finished guitar is played around the 8 minute mark.

 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll check Thomann out. I saw that pencil guitar the other day, going to watch the video now.
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buy some wood and a saw... and some sand paper.
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That video about making the guitar out of colored pencils is so well done. That guy has a thousand talents and is using them to the max. 11 million views in less than two weeks, not bad.
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That video about making the guitar out of colored pencils is so well done. That guy has a thousand talents and is using them to the max. 11 million views in less than two weeks, not bad.
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Yeah, I wish I could do detailed work like that. Produced a decent sound as well.
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I have built 3 guitars from Warmoth parts. All solid body electrics.

I have not tried to build an acoustic guitar, those would be alot more complicated.
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I have built 3 guitars from Warmoth parts. All solid body electrics.

I have not tried to build an acoustic guitar, those would be alot more complicated.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


I’m seriously thinking about using a warmoth neck and body. I’ll be doing the fretboard inlays myself. Is the Warmoth stuff high quality? Based on their pricing they believe their stuff is pretty high quality.
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I have built 3 guitars from Warmoth parts. All solid body electrics.

I have not tried to build an acoustic guitar, those would be alot more complicated.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


I’m seriously thinking about using a warmoth neck and body. I’ll be doing the fretboard inlays myself. Is the Warmoth stuff high quality? Based on their pricing they believe their stuff is pretty high quality.
 Quoting: samus79


Very high quality, I like being able to pick a neck that has just what I want on it. I have a Tele, swamp ash body, birds-eye maple neck with compound radius finderboard, with a 50's style large boat neck.
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Very high quality, I like being able to pick a neck that has just what I want on it. I have a Tele, swamp ash body, birds-eye maple neck with compound radius finderboard, with a 50's style large boat neck.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


I’m thinking of doing a start style first, but I’m going to do a mahogany neck and body with a maple top like a Les Paul. Going to do an Ibanez wizard neck with a compound radius. I was pricing out some options and it’s going to be pretty pricy for just the neck/body but it looks to be worth it.

Not sure on the bridge and pickups yet but I’m going to do humbuckers and a hardtail because I don’t like the strat tremolos or single coils.
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Very high quality, I like being able to pick a neck that has just what I want on it. I have a Tele, swamp ash body, birds-eye maple neck with compound radius finderboard, with a 50's style large boat neck.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


I’m thinking of doing a start style first, but I’m going to do a mahogany neck and body with a maple top like a Les Paul. Going to do an Ibanez wizard neck with a compound radius. I was pricing out some options and it’s going to be pretty pricy for just the neck/body but it looks to be worth it.

Not sure on the bridge and pickups yet but I’m going to do humbuckers and a hardtail because I don’t like the strat tremolos or single coils.
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Why don't you like single coils? I like all PUPs, different ones for different purposes.
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Very high quality, I like being able to pick a neck that has just what I want on it. I have a Tele, swamp ash body, birds-eye maple neck with compound radius finderboard, with a 50's style large boat neck.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


I’m thinking of doing a start style first, but I’m going to do a mahogany neck and body with a maple top like a Les Paul. Going to do an Ibanez wizard neck with a compound radius. I was pricing out some options and it’s going to be pretty pricy for just the neck/body but it looks to be worth it.

Not sure on the bridge and pickups yet but I’m going to do humbuckers and a hardtail because I don’t like the strat tremolos or single coils.
 Quoting: samus79





Why don't you like single coils? I like all PUPs, different ones for different purposes.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I have a Warmoth Hollow body Strat with Joe Barden single coils pickups.

Hit a high note with the bridge pickup and your ears will be bleeding for weeks (Very shrill and piercing) Well, at least through my THD Univalve amp, which is very bright by itself.

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Why don't you like single coils? I like all PUPs, different ones for different purposes.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I mainly play metal/hard rock and strat style single coils just don’t give me that big meaty sound I’m looking for, they always sounded thin and weak with lots of overdrive in my opinion. They are great for cleaner style tones but that isn’t my thing. I do love P-90s though, I have an SG with P-90s and they have a pretty beefy sound but they definitely have their own sound, especially with some fuzz.
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I have put together a few other guitars, by buying an inexpensive guitar that already has a good neck and body, but stripped out all of the hardware, and pickups, put in electronic shielding, and quality parts, and it sounds and plays better than some guitars that cost a couple of thousand $$.

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Why don't you like single coils? I like all PUPs, different ones for different purposes.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I mainly play metal/hard rock and strat style single coils just don’t give me that big meaty sound I’m looking for, they always sounded thin and weak with lots of overdrive in my opinion. They are great for cleaner style tones but that isn’t my thing. I do love P-90s though, I have an SG with P-90s and they have a pretty beefy sound but they definitely have their own sound, especially with some fuzz.
 Quoting: samus79




LOL, I thought so. I just wasn't sure if it was something 'technical'. Who doesn't like P90s? I like all PUPs (as I said), and I'm going to buy a pretty cheap SSH within the next couple of weeks. I reckon that having both will be great for what I play, which is not metal.
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I have put together a few other guitars, by buying an inexpensive guitar that already has a good neck and body, but stripped out all of the hardware, and pickups, put in electronic shielding, and quality parts, and it sounds and plays better than some guitars that cost a couple of thousand $$.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall




I am jealous of people like you who can do that kind of stuff. All mods I make are done by my luthier.
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I have put together a few other guitars, by buying a guitar that already has a good neck and body, but stripped out all of the hardware, and pickups, put in electronic shielding, and quality parts, and it sounds and plays better than some guitars that cost a couple of thousand $$.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


Yes, I’ve done that with three different guitars. My last and best project was an ESP EC-1000, one just like at this link:

[link to www.sweetwater.com (secure)]

Except I got it on sale for $600 at the local Sam Ash. I got rid of all the gold hardware and blacked it out with Schaller locking tuners and Schaller bridge. Got rid of the EMGs and put a Dimarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and I can’t remember but I think a Seymour Duncan ‘59 in the neck.
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I have put together a few other guitars, by buying an inexpensive guitar that already has a good neck and body, but stripped out all of the hardware, and pickups, put in electronic shielding, and quality parts, and it sounds and plays better than some guitars that cost a couple of thousand $$.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall




I am jealous of people like you who can do that kind of stuff. All mods I make are done by my luthier.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Those things are really not very complicated. I could never build an acoustic, I would blow a blood vessel.

On a solid body, you just take parts out, and the new parts usually fit into the same screw holes. For shielding, you buy some copper foil, and just glue into all the cavities and behind the pickguard. And just a little soldering.

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Here’s the ESP I upgraded:

[link to tinypic.com]

The new pickups sound way better than the EMGs and in my opinion it looks much better blacked out rather than gold hardware. I even lucked out on Amazon and found those knobs with the abalone inlays that matched the binding. I also upgraded the pots and put orange drop caps in too.
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Here’s the ESP I upgraded:

[link to tinypic.com]

The new pickups sound way better than the EMGs and in my opinion it looks much better blacked out rather than gold hardware. I even lucked out on Amazon and found those knobs with the abalone inlays that matched the binding. I also upgraded the pots and put orange drop caps in too.
 Quoting: samus79


Looks very nice. Bet it sounds great as well.
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Here’s the ESP I upgraded:

[link to tinypic.com]

The new pickups sound way better than the EMGs and in my opinion it looks much better blacked out rather than gold hardware. I even lucked out on Amazon and found those knobs with the abalone inlays that matched the binding. I also upgraded the pots and put orange drop caps in too.
 Quoting: samus79


Looks very nice. Bet it sounds great as well.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


Thanks, and yes, it sounds great. I have another ESP I pulled the EMGs out and put Seymour Duncan Invaders in. You can probably tell I’m not a fan of EMGs lol
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I have put together a few other guitars, by buying an inexpensive guitar that already has a good neck and body, but stripped out all of the hardware, and pickups, put in electronic shielding, and quality parts, and it sounds and plays better than some guitars that cost a couple of thousand $$.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall




I am jealous of people like you who can do that kind of stuff. All mods I make are done by my luthier.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Those things are really not very complicated. I could never build an acoustic, I would blow a blood vessel.

On a solid body, you just take parts out, and the new parts usually fit into the same screw holes. For shielding, you buy some copper foil, and just glue into all the cavities and behind the pickguard. And just a little soldering.
 Quoting: Lacey Underall




I blew a blood vessel imagining doing the things that you just said. The reason I entered this thread was because I love hearing about people doing these things that I can't do. I will continue paying to get my gear modded by others, as my act is a registered business and my accountant claims the cost of it back. If I remember correctly (from another thread), OP is a pro or a semi pro. I am a pro as well. I say this just to illustrate how differently we go about the same business. I don't understand most of the finer details of the gear that I use, the complete opposite of OP and his vast knowledge of it.





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