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Without a doubt...

But to the extent that people are talking about interventions and so forth, its not possible for Russia to mount any sort of support at the same level it does in Syria...

It would require a large deployment, taskforce mobilization as it's a very long way from home, so to sustain and secure a line for resupply Russia would have to effectively go all in, but they would then be committed, these are lessons learnt from 79, from Georgia and recently Syria...

It would put Russia at the disadvantage if it provided military support, however elsewhere it would be possible for Russia to stir the pot for the US.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


We don't know the level of Russian and Chinese military assets presently in Venezuela or the commitments Russia and China have made to Maduro. What we do know is that Russia and China are not going to recognize an unelected usurper like Guaido. We also know that the Russians are Chinese are long-term planners and the Neocons, like drug addicts, think only in the short-term.
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Russia doesn't have anything in Venezuela, which makes this all the more interesting, it's effectively the US attempting to prevent a Russian base in the Caribbean hence the support for the opposition.

If Russia has a presence large enough to support a military intervention the US and everyone else would have noticed and definelty seen it by now.

Right now the infrastructure and logistics aren't in place, that's why the US is acting now.

It's strategic balancing 101, it's not to different from what the Russians did with Crimea, only the US is using a proxy rather than the military.1
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Russian bases? LOL!

Bases - like aircraft carriers - are quickly becoming expensive liabilities with the latest advancements in hypersonic missile technology.

Putin and the Chinese must have read Ben Rich's Skunk Works, while Team Neocon was busy being distracted reading the Talmud.
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It's more about strategic balancing in this sense...

A airfield in La Orchila, would pose a stratgeic issue for the US especially if TU160s are stationed there, plus whatever else Russia puts there air defences, radars and so on could make that island a thorn in any military strategic planners side.
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We don't know the level of Russian and Chinese military assets presently in Venezuela or the commitments Russia and China have made to Maduro. What we do know is that Russia and China are not going to recognize an unelected usurper like Guaido. We also know that the Russians are Chinese are long-term planners and the Neocons, like drug addicts, think only in the short-term.
 Quoting: EightAndSand


Russia doesn't have anything in Venezuela, which makes this all the more interesting, it's effectively the US attempting to prevent a Russian base in the Caribbean hence the support for the opposition.

If Russia has a presence large enough to support a military intervention the US and everyone else would have noticed and definelty seen it by now.

Right now the infrastructure and logistics aren't in place, that's why the US is acting now.

It's strategic balancing 101, it's not to different from what the Russians did with Crimea, only the US is using a proxy rather than the military.1
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Russian bases? LOL!

Bases - like aircraft carriers - are quickly becoming expensive liabilities with the latest advancements in hypersonic missile technology.

Putin and the Chinese must have read Ben Rich's Skunk Works, while Team Neocon was busy being distracted reading the Talmud.
 Quoting: EightAndSand


It's more about strategic balancing in this sense...

A airfield in La Orchila, would pose a stratgeic issue for the US especially if TU160s are stationed there, plus whatever else Russia puts there air defences, radars and so on could make that island a thorn in any military strategic planners side.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Only Team Neocon is dumb enough to think that Russian and Chinese military presence will decrease in the Southern Hemisphere in the event that Team Neocon overthrows the Maduro and replaces him with one of their Deep State puppets. If anything, Russian and Chinese presence will increase, not decrease. Or Russia might just retaliate by loosening the leash on Israel's neighbors. Nevermind the Chinese response.

Like I said, Team Neocon only thinks about the next high, never about the hangover.
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Protesters have captured a Truck used by the National Guard in Caracas

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Headquarters of National Guard in Petare have been set on fire

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Why is this not pinned?

Potential WW3 right here.
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More looting scenes from this night

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AT LEAST 16 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED YESTERDAY IN THIS EPISODE, ACCORDING TO VARIOUS SOURCES
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Why is this not pinned?

Potential WW3 right here.
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It's not even being covered by MSM, just checked BBC for this and there isn't an article to be seen (unless it's buried somewhere)
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I concur! As long as there are no American boots other than Spec Ops to instruct the counter resistance.
 Quoting: JohnDonson


Worked wonders in Syria
 Quoting: Stand Sure

Probably most civilians in Venezuela support Maduro. I don't sense there's any movement among the very numerous poor people there for the stability of a capitalist government. They are still grateful for Chavez doing things like giving them free houses.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I read that Soros spent billions on the "protestors" in Ukraine. I wonder how much he has spent on the "protesters" in Venezuela?
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Excuse me? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS ALL THIS BABBLING YOU MORON!???

The majority of venezuelans (90%) doenst support Maduro in any way. In fact we are expexting some kind of foreign military or humanitarian intervention in the comming days or weeks.

P.D: We werent paid by Soros you cuckholded dimwhit. If Soros paid anybody it was the leftist puppets of the Sao Paulo Forum in Brazil way back in the 90's (Chavez, Lula,Kirchner, etc)
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Worked wonders in Syria
 Quoting: Stand Sure

Probably most civilians in Venezuela support Maduro. I don't sense there's any movement among the very numerous poor people there for the stability of a capitalist government. They are still grateful for Chavez doing things like giving them free houses.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I read that Soros spent billions on the "protestors" in Ukraine. I wonder how much he has spent on the "protesters" in Venezuela?
 Quoting: EightAndSand


Excuse me? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS ALL THIS BABBLING YOU MORON!???

The majority of venezuelans (90%) doenst support Maduro in any way. In fact we are expexting some kind of foreign military or humanitarian intervention in the comming days or weeks.

P.D: We werent paid by Soros you cuckholded dimwhit. If Soros paid anybody it was the leftist puppets of the Sao Paulo Forum in Brazil way back in the 90's (Chavez, Lula,Kirchner, etc)
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Are things getting worse over there? I was shocked by some of the footage I seen.
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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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Probably most civilians in Venezuela support Maduro. I don't sense there's any movement among the very numerous poor people there for the stability of a capitalist government. They are still grateful for Chavez doing things like giving them free houses.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I read that Soros spent billions on the "protestors" in Ukraine. I wonder how much he has spent on the "protesters" in Venezuela?
 Quoting: EightAndSand


Excuse me? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS ALL THIS BABBLING YOU MORON!???

The majority of venezuelans (90%) doenst support Maduro in any way. In fact we are expexting some kind of foreign military or humanitarian intervention in the comming days or weeks.

P.D: We werent paid by Soros you cuckholded dimwhit. If Soros paid anybody it was the leftist puppets of the Sao Paulo Forum in Brazil way back in the 90's (Chavez, Lula,Kirchner, etc)
 Quoting: Un Astrologo Mas


Are things getting worse over there? I was shocked by some of the footage I seen.
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Right now there is a tense calm in Caracas, the capital city.
The death toll has risen to 19 across the country (unofficial reports claim the number is higher)

I'll keep you informed guys, stay tunned.
Even in darkness, good will prevail!
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Dont worry about Russia,Putin will drop to his knees, unzip Trump and get to work, Trump only need click his fingers.Will help Putin get the taste of Bibi out of his mouth.Putin will stab China in the back to feel some love from US,i think the Chinese know it deep down.

Russia stands for nothing any more.They are not even master of their own back yard.Never mind anyone else's.

Their military is even worse now, than it was during the cold war.Their only carrier the Kuznetsov spews thick black smoke so bad,that it can be seen from Space(not kidding either).Their bombers when not flying in to each other,are falling from the Sky.Their air defenses are a myth exposed daily by IDF in Syria.
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Worked wonders in Syria
 Quoting: Stand Sure

Probably most civilians in Venezuela support Maduro. I don't sense there's any movement among the very numerous poor people there for the stability of a capitalist government. They are still grateful for Chavez doing things like giving them free houses.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I read that Soros spent billions on the "protestors" in Ukraine. I wonder how much he has spent on the "protesters" in Venezuela?
 Quoting: EightAndSand


Excuse me? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS ALL THIS BABBLING YOU MORON!???

The majority of venezuelans (90%) doenst support Maduro in any way. In fact we are expexting some kind of foreign military or humanitarian intervention in the comming days or weeks.

P.D: We werent paid by Soros you cuckholded dimwhit. If Soros paid anybody it was the leftist puppets of the Sao Paulo Forum in Brazil way back in the 90's (Chavez, Lula,Kirchner, etc)
 Quoting: Un Astrologo Mas


chuckle

Well said...

It's clear as day the people have had enough of the situation in Venezuela, however the US does stand to gain by inflaming the situation or rather better choice of words now would be to capitalise on the situation...

All in all I hope you all fair well and stay safe.
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And it seems as if Maduro is winning. The army is on his side and Putin, too. So Trump will lose this game in the end IMHO.
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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Any official source to this, as it's important to have a full picture with something like this, I'd expect to movement fast if either side is credible on their threats...

As in Russia will have to mobilise now before the US to get assets in place if it's serious.

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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 Quoting: Spanish_guy

Putin needs to get a grip of these idiots in his government and silence them for good.A few were running their mouths after SAA shot down the Russian Plane until Putin shut them up.

Look out the window you retarded Russian fucks, those Tank Barrels all along your border from Baltic, to the Black Sea, belong to US/NATO.St Petersburg can be leveled within 20 minutes flying out of Baltic States.

Trump needs to send an entire Carrier Group in to the Black sea to humiliate these fucking idiots.Also sanction their arses some more for running their dumb mouths like a shit talking street Pimp.

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#Russia warns that it will help #Venezuela in case the #US will conduct a military operation to oust #Maduro.

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Any official source to this, as it's important to have a full picture with something like this, I'd expect to movement fast if either side is credible on their threats...

As in Russia will have to mobilise now before the US to get assets in place if it's serious.
 Quoting: Stand Sure

It will be some drunkard in the Kremlin running his mouth. Lavrov will apologize for the misunderstanding and clarify later for sure.
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#Russia warns that it will help #Venezuela in case the #US will conduct a military operation to oust #Maduro.

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Any official source to this, as it's important to have a full picture with something like this, I'd expect to movement fast if either side is credible on their threats...

As in Russia will have to mobilise now before the US to get assets in place if it's serious.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Look for Interfax or the other source that is banned here
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And it seems as if Maduro is winning. The army is on his side and Putin, too. So Trump will lose this game in the end IMHO.
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What you drinking Bud ?

100% no way will US be humiliated by a couple of third World shit holes like Venezuela and Russia.

A whole lot of pain coming Maduro way and Putin if he is not careful.
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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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FAKE
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#Russia warns that it will help #Venezuela in case the #US will conduct a military operation to oust #Maduro.

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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FAKE
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Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela
"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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FAKE
 Quoting: Bl4ckFir3



Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela
"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."

[link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Stand Sure


THX *

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#Russia warns that it will help #Venezuela in case the #US will conduct a military operation to oust #Maduro.

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Interesting pronouncement...
Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."


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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


FAKE
 Quoting: Bl4ckFir3



Russia warns U.S. against military intervention in Venezuela
"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," Vladimir Putin's deputy foreign minister said. "We have supported them and will support them."

[link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Stand Sure


THX *
 Quoting: Watchout


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RUSSIA CALLS FOR ABANDONING IDEAS OF ARMED INTERFERENCE IN #VENEZUELA'S AFFAIRS - LAVROV: IFX. #OOTT
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RUSSIA CALLS FOR ABANDONING IDEAS OF ARMED INTERFERENCE IN #VENEZUELA'S AFFAIRS - LAVROV: IFX. #OOTT
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RUSSIA URGES #VENEZUELA OPPOSITION NOT TO PLAY ROLE OF PAWNS IN DIRTY GAME - LAVROV: IFX. #OOTT

LAVROV SAYS U.S.' RECOGNITION OF GUAIDO INDICATES U.S. PLAYED DIRECT ROLE IN #VENEZUELA CRISIS: IFX. #OOTT


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RUSSIA CALLS FOR ABANDONING IDEAS OF ARMED INTERFERENCE IN #VENEZUELA'S AFFAIRS - LAVROV: IFX. #OOTT
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RUSSIA URGES #VENEZUELA OPPOSITION NOT TO PLAY ROLE OF PAWNS IN DIRTY GAME - LAVROV: IFX. #OOTT

LAVROV SAYS U.S.' RECOGNITION OF GUAIDO INDICATES U.S. PLAYED DIRECT ROLE IN #VENEZUELA CRISIS: IFX. #OOTT


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This is why Russia would have to mobilise fast in order to actually mount any defence like they have in Syria...

Right now they don't have the critical infrastructure and logistical chain in place to sustain action in Venezualea like they have achieved in Syria.

Equally it's why the US needs to move fast before Russia has the opportunity.

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Interesting to see where individual countries stand on whether to support the Communist regime of Maduro, which is imploding Venezuela. Most all of the LATAM countries support Guaido, but then you have countries like Mexico supporting Maduro.

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Supporting Juan Guaido as interim president

USA
Canada
Brazil
Paraguay
Colombia
Peru
Ecuador
Costa Rica
Argentina
Chile
Guatemala
Kosovo
Honduras

Supporting current President Nicolás Maduro

Mexico
Cuba
Bolivia
Turkey
Russia
Syria

China too - The prospect of Maduro being ousted is a geopolitical and economic headache for Moscow which, alongside China, has become a lender of last resort for Caracas, lending it billions of dollars as its economy implodes.
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It would seem that the Venezuela and Ukraine crises are being orchestrated in order to spread Russia's resources thin, thus allowing Israel to operate more freely in Syria.

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