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Stop bringing Putin in the equation, this is South America, America's backyard
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Russia and China are the only ones willing to help Venezuela.
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
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Hey, Curry Nosher!

I'm not real sophisticated about such things--and most people aren't, due to our lying "Operation Mockingbird" media. However, the more research I do, this looks more and more like a bankster/intelligence community operation. This is supposed to be what Trump was elected to stop.

But maybe I'm wrong. :/

Sometimes I wish I could undo my red pill and go back to network television and blissful ignorance. LOL
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You n me both mate lol hf

Alas we cannot .... I say that as the only guy within maybe 100 miles who even knows about this stuff lol.

But yeah.... sometimes i wish i knew less and only worried about who won the Oscars or when the Kardashians were on tv etc!

Every war is a rich mans war bud - start there and you will get answers, i even feel bad for saying that lol!

However i need to say this but not exactly for you poster but including!

I am surrounded by people (inc wife) who know NOTHING about the ins and outs of what is really going on! I sometimes venture into this area but they look at me gone out like a nujob and so i have no one to bounce my thoughts off of - only you guys on GLP... And for that i am eternally grateful cos otherwise i might spin out lol hf

So thank you and God Bless hf
 Quoting: BadProgBad:

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[Shit, I screwed up the quote!]

Hey, no reason to feel bad. It's mostly true. General Smedley Butler, one of the most decorated Marines, wrote a book about it after World War I. He said he felt like a mercenary for corporate interests. President (General) Eisenhower warned of the same thing in his farewell address.

Nobody really understood what they were talking about then. Today, we have had the Internet for too long. They are in a rush to clamp down with censorship before too many more people learn the truth.

Are you English expat? That's my guess from your command of the language.

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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
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LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
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LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


after german reunion usa promise at russia , that nato naver go in ester europe........

american promises have velue 0

american signed contract have value 0 ...
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


NATO has protected us from Soviet-Russian aggression since the end of WWII, they are the world's police, and we should all be thankful for that
Otherwise, we'd all be speaking Russky
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I admire NATO.
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The world is belong to us!
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You have too much energy. You must be getting paid.
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lots of undercover secret agents around here.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


That's my thought as well.. they nay sayers are too much in unison and their tactics are almost identical to each others.. something ain't right.. i do believe this thread has intentionally been targeted by paid provocateurs..

bump
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I'm on a fucking troll here. Don't try to stop me.

The only difference between what the US is doing in their "back yard" and what Russia and China do in theirs is that the US learned some very important lessons from the Old Empire, and the Ancien Regime.

So that's largely why we find ourselves in the position that we find ourselves in today.

China got buttfucked hard in the Opium Wars, and yes, it's catching up pretty damn well.

Russia too got buttfucked by "various interests" back in the early 20th century, but they too are quickly making amends.

So stop your pathetic shilling and learn some history. Deep history. This is GLP after all...
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The world is belong to us!
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You have too much energy. You must be getting paid.
 Quoting: BadProgBad


lots of undercover secret agents around here.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


That's my thought as well.. they nay sayers are too much in unison and their tactics are almost identical to each others.. something ain't right.. i do believe this thread has intentionally been targeted by paid provocateurs..

bump
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well, a witch hunt would be stupid. let's be egalitarian instead.
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Juan Guaido's mission is quite prophetic in many ways. His he leading his people towards freedom from an oppressive and violent regime. Other countries will soon follow (domino effect), no one can stop that. The future is in the hands of the Venezuelan people, and if America can help, why da hell not?
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Stop bringing Putin in the equation, this is South America, America's backyard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


Russia and China are the only ones willing to help Venezuela.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


Without intentions of causing damage to a sovereign country... the us is only interested in causing hardships on the economy as well as the people of Venezuela
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Yes. Powder comes from Columbia to Brazil, by land, from Brazil to west Africa by sea, thats Sierra-Leone, Gwinea-Bissau, than to Lybia, with Mali bedouins. And from Lybia to EU. It coasts $900 per kilo in Columbia. And more than $50000 in EU. And the profits goes to CIA. In black cash, which is priceless for clandestine operations.
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What does "black cash" mean, just "off the books?" Referring to black budget? Sorry, it's just a new term to me. I want to make sure I don't misuse it.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not some fucking CIA shill.

I very much respect Chinese and Russian culture, and their right to self-determination and their right to their own style of political system and whatnot.

I respect the fact that they, as the major Eurasian Powers on the continent, have the "right through might" to influence their neighbors.

But let me say this... NO NATION AT THIS MOMENT IS TRULY A GLOBAL HEGEMON. And that includes the "glorious" USA.
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


after german reunion usa promise at russia , that nato naver go in ester europe........

american promises have velue 0

american signed contract have value 0 ...
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trans_sign
"... Shall not be infringed."
Notice the period at the end? It means END OF CONVERSATION!
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Juan Guaido's mission is quite prophetic in many ways. His he leading his people towards freedom from an oppressive and violent regime. Other countries will soon follow (domino effect), no one can stop that. The future is in the hands of the Venezuelan people, and if America can help, why da hell not?
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:lowfatfart:
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


NATO has protected us from Soviet-Russian aggression since the end of WWII, they are the world's police, and we should all be thankful for that
Otherwise, we'd all be speaking Russky
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If you are any reflection of the level of intelligence in your country.. then holy shit are y'all in serious fucking trouble..
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What we really should be asking at this moment in history is whether these big powers have a right to influence and coerce smaller nations.

Maybe there's a better way.
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What we really should be asking at this moment in history is whether these big powers have a right to influence and coerce smaller nations.

Maybe there's a better way.
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When people are literally dying on the streets of Venezuela, it is not a political choice, it is not a military choice, it is the moral duty of the United States to act.
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


NATO has protected us from Soviet-Russian aggression since the end of WWII, they are the world's police, and we should all be thankful for that
Otherwise, we'd all be speaking Russky
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If you are any reflection of the level of intelligence in your country.. then holy shit are y'all in serious fucking trouble..
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Switzerland is a small nation. In comparison to the Russian Federation (and the old USSR), most European nations really do pale into comparison, especially after the advent of nuclear weapons development in that nation.

So it really is no wonder that the Cold War happened, and that the USA decided to support Western Europe.
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What we really should be asking at this moment in history is whether these big powers have a right to influence and coerce smaller nations.

Maybe there's a better way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


When people are literally dying on the streets of Venezuela, it is not a political choice, it is not a military choice, it is the moral duty of the United States to act.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


I don't necessarily agree with that. But things are getting pretty bad there.

I'm certainly not a fan of Maduro.
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What we really should be asking at this moment in history is whether these big powers have a right to influence and coerce smaller nations.

Maybe there's a better way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


When people are literally dying on the streets of Venezuela, it is not a political choice, it is not a military choice, it is the moral duty of the United States to act.
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Yeah you getting paid to regurgitate that line of thinking by someone.. that I'm almost absolutely certain of now... no one is that mentally handicapped....
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not some fucking CIA shill.

I very much respect Chinese and Russian culture, and their right to self-determination and their right to their own style of political system and whatnot.

I respect the fact that they, as the major Eurasian Powers on the continent, have the "right through might" to influence their neighbors.

But let me say this... NO NATION AT THIS MOMENT IS TRULY A GLOBAL HEGEMON. And that includes the "glorious" USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


This is where I think you are wrong. We are beholden to "foreign powers" whose small real estate is Washington, DC; City of London; and Israel. They are using our own military, intelligence agencies, monetary systems, and corporate monopolies against us.
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The US is already acting. I just hope that they don't do an "Iraq" or a "Libya".

Maybe they have learned some lessons.

Soft-power is usually preferable, at least in my humble opinion.

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Don't get me wrong. I'm not some fucking CIA shill.

I very much respect Chinese and Russian culture, and their right to self-determination and their right to their own style of political system and whatnot.

I respect the fact that they, as the major Eurasian Powers on the continent, have the "right through might" to influence their neighbors.

But let me say this... NO NATION AT THIS MOMENT IS TRULY A GLOBAL HEGEMON. And that includes the "glorious" USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


This is where I think you are wrong. We are beholden to "foreign powers" whose small real estate is Washington, DC; City of London; and Israel. They are using our own military, intelligence agencies, monetary systems, and corporate monopolies against us.
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Don't bring Israel into this, they have no role in Venezuela.
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What we really should be asking at this moment in history is whether these big powers have a right to influence and coerce smaller nations.

Maybe there's a better way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


When people are literally dying on the streets of Venezuela, it is not a political choice, it is not a military choice, it is the moral duty of the United States to act.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


I don't necessarily agree with that. But things are getting pretty bad there.

I'm certainly not a fan of Maduro.
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Maduro is having to make some hard sacrifices
to keep the Country from falling into the hands
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Well... I guess if the USA wants to meddle in Eastern Europe, then Russia can meddle in South Africa.

The only problem all these Russian shills have is that they basically lost the economic and ideological war back in the 90s.

Russia is still playing catch-up.

China is playing catch-up from before the 20th century.

So yeah, I can see why they're so butthurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


LOL usa meddle in ester europe , nato are at russian border...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77450148


after german reunion usa promise at russia , that nato naver go in ester europe........

american promises have velue 0

american signed contract have value 0 ...
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I understood him perfectly well, and he's right, I'm afraid. Russia should be a natural ally. They are white, Christian, and I am pretty sure that Putin, whatever his faults, does not wish to give in to the banksters.
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I'm on a fucking troll here. Don't try to stop me.

The only difference between what the US is doing in their "back yard" and what Russia and China do in theirs is that the US learned some very important lessons from the Old Empire, and the Ancien Regime.

So that's largely why we find ourselves in the position that we find ourselves in today.

China got buttfucked hard in the Opium Wars, and yes, it's catching up pretty damn well.

Russia too got buttfucked by "various interests" back in the early 20th century, but they too are quickly making amends.

So stop your pathetic shilling and learn some history. Deep history. This is GLP after all...
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LOL siria , iraq , afganistan lybia... backyeard of murican ??

listan this american witch

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Don't get me wrong. I'm not some fucking CIA shill.

I very much respect Chinese and Russian culture, and their right to self-determination and their right to their own style of political system and whatnot.

I respect the fact that they, as the major Eurasian Powers on the continent, have the "right through might" to influence their neighbors.

But let me say this... NO NATION AT THIS MOMENT IS TRULY A GLOBAL HEGEMON. And that includes the "glorious" USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


This is where I think you are wrong. We are beholden to "foreign powers" whose small real estate is Washington, DC; City of London; and Israel. They are using our own military, intelligence agencies, monetary systems, and corporate monopolies against us.
 Quoting: BadProgBad


It is true that a small handful of nations largely pull the strings in this world today.

But these nations (Washington, DC; City of London; and Israel) or whoever you want to pinpoint (and I somewhat agree with your analysis), do not completely pull ALL THE STRINGS.

At least not yet.





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