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#Followup: 2 hours ago :

#Venezuela has put the S-300 into operational readiness:

after conducting drills in February 2019 (as reported previously by #ISI).


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standard procedure when you under attack by a foreign entity.
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will be difficult to drop marines before the plane got shot out of the air ... if , they will first have to precise bomb all the anti aircraft first
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bad idea for Trump to start a War now. he'll lose the Election.
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#Followup: 2 hours ago :

#Venezuela has put the S-300 into operational readiness:

after conducting drills in February 2019 (as reported previously by #ISI).


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standard procedure when you under attack by a foreign entity.
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will be difficult to drop marines before the plane got shot out of the air ... if , they will first have to precise bomb all the anti aircraft first
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bad idea for Trump to start a War now. he'll lose the Election.
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If you think it is Trump who decides when to start a war, my guy, you are wrong
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standard procedure when you under attack by a foreign entity.
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will be difficult to drop marines before the plane got shot out of the air ... if , they will first have to precise bomb all the anti aircraft first
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bad idea for Trump to start a War now. he'll lose the Election.
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If you think it is Trump who decides when to start a war, my guy, you are wrong
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that's why if they go to War, we know that Trump is not the Boss.

(it's a good way to get rid of Trump at the 2020 Election.
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#Followup: 2 hours ago :

#Venezuela has put the S-300 into operational readiness:

after conducting drills in February 2019 (as reported previously by #ISI).


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standard procedure when you under attack by a foreign entity.
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will be difficult to drop marines before the plane got shot out of the air ... if , they will first have to precise bomb all the anti aircraft first
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bad idea for Trump to start a War now. he'll lose the Election.
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i don't remember where i read this ... but if there is a war ... Trump would go easely to the next presidency... cause there would be national emergency etc... no time for elections ect.... for Trump it would be perfect , also to distract all cases, the media would focus on the starting war ( hope not )
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Don't Forget this

Russia Gives US Red Line On Venezuela

At a high-level meeting in Rome this week, it seems that Russia reiterated a grave warning to the US – Moscow will not tolerate American military intervention to topple the Venezuelan government with whom it is allied.

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Seriously Dude what can Russia ever do ?bwhaaaaaaaa

They have nothing asset wise other than ICBM nuclear weapons. They going to go for (MAD) mutually assured destructions over Venezuela, I don’t think so.

They don't even have a Carrier.Only the converted thick black smoke bellowing Kuznetsov,that they have recently fucked up during refurbishment,Out of commission for the foreseeable future.

[link to ukdefencejournal.org.uk (secure)]

Anyone can talk the talk. Walking the walk is what matters, and US can walk all over Russia if need be.
US could attack Russia on so many fronts simultaneously, that Russia would be overwhelmed.

Also why don't you post the full transcript ? .Russia red line statement ends with “ All action we take will be within international law”

Only an insane person would go for “Death by Cop”

Sober rattling and chatting shit is what Russia does best.
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Don't Forget this

Russia Gives US Red Line On Venezuela

At a high-level meeting in Rome this week, it seems that Russia reiterated a grave warning to the US – Moscow will not tolerate American military intervention to topple the Venezuelan government with whom it is allied.

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

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Seriously Dude what can Russia ever do ?bwhaaaaaaaa

They have nothing asset wise other than ICBM nuclear weapons. They going to go for (MAD) mutually assured destructions over Venezuela, I don’t think so.

They don't even have a Carrier.Only the converted thick black smoke bellowing Kuznetsov,that they have recently fucked up during refurbishment,Out of commission for the foreseeable future.

[link to ukdefencejournal.org.uk (secure)]

Anyone can talk the talk. Walking the walk is what matters, and US can walk all over Russia if need be.
US could attack Russia on so many fronts simultaneously, that Russia would be overwhelmed.

Also why don't you post the full transcript ? .Russia red line statement ends with “ All action we take will be within international law”

Only an insane person would go for “Death by Cop”

Sober rattling and chatting shit is what Russia does best.
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it will be a bloody mess. inconvenient for everybody.
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Colombian Air Force supports U.S. Navy Growlers during exercise Red Flag

Colombian Air Force Multi-Mission Transport Tanker Jupiter 767 conducted day and night refueling missions exclusively with the U.S. Navy EA-18G Growlers from the Electronic Attack Squadron 134 during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2.

According to a statement released by the 12th Air Force (Air Forces Southern) Public Affairs, the Colombian Air Force is supporting the U.S. Navy during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2 March 11-22, 2019.


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electronic attack squadron ???

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US has been left no choice, but act by the warmongering Russians.

How many times did US need to say South America is off limits to Russia/China ?. The Monroe doctrine Trumps international law (pun intended ;-)).Once you grasp that is US starting position, you quickly realize US has now been left no choice but to act by Russia provocative actions.

It was an extremely stupid move on Ivan part.US was trying to “Free Venezuela” from Maduro oppressive regime with economic sanctions. Trade embargo peaceful means.

Russia/China are losing billions in loans to Venezuela. Hence this extremely stupid “Poker move” in to US sphere of influence.

So then where do we in US go from here ?

Do nothing, let Russia move in to the neighborhood, and hang on to their Stooge. No doubt the Russians will milk it for all the PR it is worth. Claiming to have humiliated United States. Forced US to back off, a victory for Russia.

I don’t think so.............

Trump has to act quickly, decisively, against Venezuela.
Russia presence in Venezuela means they are now directly interfering in the democratic process of Venezuela. Right there is the narrative needed for the Pentagon, US military, to justify their military action against Maduro. Not only that, US can impose more sanctions on Russia for “Yet again” interfering in the democratic process of another sovereign nation.Boot them off SWIFT.

US Cruise Missile attacks should be made against Maduro command, and control structure. Take out Maduro ability to govern Venezuela. This should include any TV stations being used by the Maduro regime. Leave only those that Guaido uses to speak to the masses.

Take out all the radar Bases, and any air defenses that represent a direct threat to USAF forces.Create chaos, once chaos is created Maduro days are numbered.

I suspect the Russians believe US Cruise Missile attacks are imminent and are transporting air defenses in to Venezuela as I write this.

In my opinion Trump should order these attacks as soon as tonight, or tomorrow night. Do not let the Russians get any foothold by establishing air defenses.

If taking out command and control structures, air defenses don’t work. Then you move on to electric and hydro-water plants. Limits civilian casualties.

Russia needs to be shown who is boss. No need for aNY direct confrontation.US can achieve all its objectives,and humiliate Russia by many other means it has at its disposal.

Trump plays his cards right here.He will guarantee another term as POTUS for sure.Humiliating Putin will shut everyone of his accusers up.
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In like 48 hours US can deploy only bombers with AGM type missiles, thats small amount. You need to deploy ships with tomohawks to the region. Moreover cruise missiles need flight program, 48 hours to prepare. If we are here, be sure GPS jammers are already working, and 2 submarines are patroling Venezuelan waters. Venezuelan air defence is capable to sot down like 50-70 cruise missiles as for today. Thats BUK M3, Tor.
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The US Navy has a total of 18 Ohio-class submarines which consist of 14 ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs), and four cruise missile submarines (SSGNs

Each SSBN submarine is armed with up to 24 Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). Each SSGN is capable of carrying ****154 TOMAHAWK CRUISE MISSILES ***** cruise missiles, plus a complement of Harpoon missiles to be fired through their torpedo tubes.

DO THE MATH IVAN ?
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We know that USS Florida is in Mediterranen. USS Ohio is in the South China Sea. So 2 left. Probably 1 sub should be on rotational maintenance, so 1 left, which is 154 cruise missiles. 50-70 will be shoot down. 100 tomohawks is not enough to change the current situation.
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Colombian Air Force supports U.S. Navy Growlers during exercise Red Flag

Colombian Air Force Multi-Mission Transport Tanker Jupiter 767 conducted day and night refueling missions exclusively with the U.S. Navy EA-18G Growlers from the Electronic Attack Squadron 134 during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2.

According to a statement released by the 12th Air Force (Air Forces Southern) Public Affairs, the Colombian Air Force is supporting the U.S. Navy during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2 March 11-22, 2019.


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Colombian Air Force supports U.S. Navy Growlers during exercise Red Flag

Colombian Air Force Multi-Mission Transport Tanker Jupiter 767 conducted day and night refueling missions exclusively with the U.S. Navy EA-18G Growlers from the Electronic Attack Squadron 134 during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2.

According to a statement released by the 12th Air Force (Air Forces Southern) Public Affairs, the Colombian Air Force is supporting the U.S. Navy during the U.S. Air Force-led air-to-air combat exercise Red Flag 19-2 March 11-22, 2019.


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electronic attack squadron ???
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not good ... this news

bump
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Don't Forget this

Russia Gives US Red Line On Venezuela

At a high-level meeting in Rome this week, it seems that Russia reiterated a grave warning to the US – Moscow will not tolerate American military intervention to topple the Venezuelan government with whom it is allied.

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Not getting a good feeling about all of this. Thanks for the updates OP.

:greenkarma:
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and do you really think your feelings good or bad really mean anything to anybody other than you?
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Let's assume the thesis that "trump will do something distracting if the Mueller Report is damning" is true. These troop movements by Russia may indicate that Moscow knows something that we don't.

They're moving people into Venezuela to deter any more "distracting" by Trump.

The day before the Mueller Report was sent over to the AG, Trump tweeted a reversal of North Korean sanctions seemingly out of the blue... who knows wtf he's going to do today when the summary is sent over to Congress...

Y'all pull in your tomatoes yet?
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you are clueless.. save your pennies
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Let's assume the thesis that "trump will do something distracting if the Mueller Report is damning" is true. These troop movements by Russia may indicate that Moscow knows something that we don't.

They're moving people into Venezuela to deter any more "distracting" by Trump.

The day before the Mueller Report was sent over to the AG, Trump tweeted a reversal of North Korean sanctions seemingly out of the blue... who knows wtf he's going to do today when the summary is sent over to Congress...

Y'all pull in your tomatoes yet?
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you are clueless.. save your pennies
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whateverdumbass
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United States would crush Russia.
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United States would crush Russia.
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hope nobody will crush each other... and why, for the pockets of the psycho elite... and then leave ex soldiers homeless...

Thread: Chilling World War III 'wargames' show US forces crushed by Russia and China

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United States and Nato would Crush Russia and China.
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United States and Nato would Crush Russia and China.
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and visa versa...

And then.... we are all.... Dead.

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If a direct conflict happens between the US and Russia/China, how long would it take to go nuclear?
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i was just pointing out that China is already doing
a lot of business in Central and South America.
what good will razing Venezuela to rubble going to do you?
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Dude not even tasty bait there.

USA fed Germans while Russians starved them

USA built China from the face down rapeds position into what it is, and even then they ran to Mao and allowed him to literally give the communist side of China, the mainland, essentially, to his WIFE! In his will!

International = liars.
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Russia, or you mean the U.S.S.R.?, never starved the Germans.


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Another fictional famine-genocide fabrication?
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If a direct conflict happens between the US and Russia/China, how long would it take to go nuclear?
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Depending on the theater of war. If it will be sea encounter, nuclear torpedoes will be used in first hour, then possible de-escalation, before it goes to MSM. If US attacks russian troops, in some region, Russia will retaliate on US bases with nuclear cruise missiles in, probably, 5-8 hours.
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NOTHING from Bolton, Pompeo, Marco Rubio ... no tweets.

shure they secretely talk on how they will react on all accusations , evidence , and russians landing in Venezuela...

with what lies will they come next... to talk them out.
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Dude not even tasty bait there.

USA fed Germans while Russians starved them

USA built China from the face down rapeds position into what it is, and even then they ran to Mao and allowed him to literally give the communist side of China, the mainland, essentially, to his WIFE! In his will!

International = liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69998822

Russia, or you mean the U.S.S.R.?, never starved the Germans.

[link to michalw.narod.ru]

Another fictional famine-genocide fabrication?
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Everyone on Earth who is not a moron knows

That Russia ran East Germany into the ground like the most retarded fucks ever.

A disaster for Germans.

You, don't know shit.
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If a direct conflict happens between the US and Russia/China, how long would it take to go nuclear?
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Depending on the theater of war. If it will be sea encounter, nuclear torpedoes will be used in first hour, then possible de-escalation, before it goes to MSM. If US attacks russian troops, in some region, Russia will retaliate on US bases with nuclear cruise missiles in, probably, 5-8 hours.
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Ha ha yeah

Try it fuck face.
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WW3 is coming and still no one can see where?
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Hurry up and fucking invade before Russia gains a foothold.
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Venezuela opposition fears crackdown after Maduro threatens arrest

“In the coming days, we will certainly see more terrorists captured – whatever their names might be,” Maduro said. “There will be justice in Venezuela. We will not shy away from sending these crooks to jail – one by one – sooner rather than later … We have their names. We know their faces.”

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United States and Nato would Crush Russia and China.
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No.youre a dumbass though.
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Is Russia going to say they are mercenaries? Like they did in Feb 7th 2018.





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