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Regarding Russia's warning on Venezuela: "Russia isn't going to do anything for Venezuela, even if the US were to full on invade. (They won't.)" - DEFCON Warning System Director

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(seems to be just his/there opinion)
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Maduro speaking (yesterday I think)

”We have deep respect for the United States", "I love the United States"- Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro today in a speech where he spoke out against the Trump administration backing Juan Guaidó

“Hands off Venezuela!”


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Maduro speaking (yesterday I think)

”We have deep respect for the United States", "I love the United States"- Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro today in a speech where he spoke out against the Trump administration backing Juan Guaidó

“Hands off Venezuela!”


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 Quoting: Pacifica


lol poor maduro...when u wanna talk shit but low key love the big macs and kfc
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If we don't fix it, 30 million could flee to America
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 Quoting: Pacifica


If we don't fix it, 30 million could flee to America
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that'll give us enough time to teach our soldiers
how to shoot their guns.
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If we don't fix it, 30 million could flee to America
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Well, fixing things in Iraq, Libya, Syria . . . resulted in many people being displaced and fleeing to other countries too.
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excellent video
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People leaving is a sign of de-escalation imo...

It went from no one leaving strong words to non emergency personnel leaving, this will likely draw out as a long diplomatic spat, Russia has been very busy it would seem.

But who knows it's coming up for the weekend.
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People leaving is a sign of de-escalation imo...

It went from no one leaving strong words to non emergency personnel leaving, this will likely draw out as a long diplomatic spat, Russia has been very busy it would seem.

But who knows it's coming up for the weekend.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, who knows. But there's a good chance that we'll be needing more popcorn.

popcorn
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excellent video
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Watching it now...
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Wow, those guys are covered in oil. It looks pretty fucked up.
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wow! The US Co. has found financing method: the absorption merger of Venezuela Co. and then selling the assets. I have seen this movie too many times, and so hapened in Romania at 1989. If you do not know the method, I suggest you see the movie Wall Street (1987). only that M. Duoglas was replaced by Trump [link to www.gettyimages.co.nz (secure)] who does not know history, risks a repeat [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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wow! The US Co. has found financing method: the absorption merger of Venezuela Co. and then selling the assets. I have seen this movie too many times, and so hapened in Romania at 1989. If you do not know the method, I suggest you see the movie Wall Street (1987). only that M. Duoglas was replaced by Trump [link to www.gettyimages.co.nz (secure)] who does not know history, risks a repeat [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: maurice2


The alternative is for Venezeula to become a client state of the US. Some of these places are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Such is life...
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wow! The US Co. has found financing method: the absorption merger of Venezuela Co. and then selling the assets. I have seen this movie too many times, and so hapened in Romania at 1989. If you do not know the method, I suggest you see the movie Wall Street (1987). only that M. Duoglas was replaced by Trump [link to www.gettyimages.co.nz (secure)] who does not know history, risks a repeat [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: maurice2


The alternative is for Venezeula to become a client state of the US. Some of these places are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Such is life...
 Quoting: OceanMan


Russia will do a revamp and prop up Maduro, I can't see it kicking off unless the US goes bombs blazing or Maduro doesn't listern to Putin.
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Meanwhile... in Venezeula...

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wow! The US Co. has found financing method: the absorption merger of Venezuela Co. and then selling the assets. I have seen this movie too many times, and so hapened in Romania at 1989. If you do not know the method, I suggest you see the movie Wall Street (1987). only that M. Duoglas was replaced by Trump [link to www.gettyimages.co.nz (secure)] who does not know history, risks a repeat [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: maurice2


The alternative is for Venezeula to become a client state of the US. Some of these places are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Such is life...
 Quoting: OceanMan


Russia will do a revamp and prop up Maduro, I can't see it kicking off unless the US goes bombs blazing or Maduro doesn't listern to Putin.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Maybe. I can't see how either Russia or China can prop up the Venezeulan economy. The global economy is also in pretty bad shape.

It's just going to snowball from here.
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wow! The US Co. has found financing method: the absorption merger of Venezuela Co. and then selling the assets. I have seen this movie too many times, and so hapened in Romania at 1989. If you do not know the method, I suggest you see the movie Wall Street (1987). only that M. Duoglas was replaced by Trump [link to www.gettyimages.co.nz (secure)] who does not know history, risks a repeat [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: maurice2


The alternative is for Venezeula to become a client state of the US. Some of these places are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Such is life...
 Quoting: OceanMan


Russia will do a revamp and prop up Maduro, I can't see it kicking off unless the US goes bombs blazing or Maduro doesn't listern to Putin.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Maybe. I can't see how either Russia or China can prop up the Venezeulan economy. The global economy is also in pretty bad shape.

It's just going to snowball from here.
 Quoting: OceanMan


What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil.
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The alternative is for Venezeula to become a client state of the US. Some of these places are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Such is life...
 Quoting: OceanMan


Russia will do a revamp and prop up Maduro, I can't see it kicking off unless the US goes bombs blazing or Maduro doesn't listern to Putin.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Maybe. I can't see how either Russia or China can prop up the Venezeulan economy. The global economy is also in pretty bad shape.

It's just going to snowball from here.
 Quoting: OceanMan


What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I hear that Venezeula has a shortage of toilet paper.

Seriously though, the situation there is long past reaching a breaking point.
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It's hard to govern people who are hungry..
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Russia will do a revamp and prop up Maduro, I can't see it kicking off unless the US goes bombs blazing or Maduro doesn't listern to Putin.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Maybe. I can't see how either Russia or China can prop up the Venezeulan economy. The global economy is also in pretty bad shape.

It's just going to snowball from here.
 Quoting: OceanMan


What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I hear that Venezeula has a shortage of toilet paper.

Seriously though, the situation there is long past reaching a breaking point.
 Quoting: OceanMan


It is indeed, however providing the crowd doesn't get unruly and ends up gunned down by Maduro forces we won't see US intervention as there would be no grounds for it...

That being said we know the blueprints from the Arab Spring and 2014 Maidan
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Maybe. I can't see how either Russia or China can prop up the Venezeulan economy. The global economy is also in pretty bad shape.

It's just going to snowball from here.
 Quoting: OceanMan


What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I hear that Venezeula has a shortage of toilet paper.

Seriously though, the situation there is long past reaching a breaking point.
 Quoting: OceanMan


It is indeed, however providing the crowd doesn't get unruly and ends up gunned down by Maduro forces we won't see US intervention as there would be no grounds for it...

That being said we know the blueprints from the Arab Spring and 2014 Maidan
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I don't think that the Maduro "regime" will last too much longer.

"Regime" is a funny word. But these people in power in Venezeula really do seem to have made a series of miscalculations.

Personally, I do believe in the right of small tribes to express their own self-determination (Venezeula is, for all intents and purposes, a small tribe, much like my own nation), but these places have to understand that there are much bigger players out there.

Same as it ever was.
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What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I hear that Venezeula has a shortage of toilet paper.

Seriously though, the situation there is long past reaching a breaking point.
 Quoting: OceanMan


It is indeed, however providing the crowd doesn't get unruly and ends up gunned down by Maduro forces we won't see US intervention as there would be no grounds for it...

That being said we know the blueprints from the Arab Spring and 2014 Maidan
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yeah, I don't think that the Maduro "regime" will last too much longer.

"Regime" is a funny word. But these people in power in Venezeula really do seem to have made a series of miscalculations.

Personally, I do believe in the right of small tribes to express their own self-determination (Venezeula is, for all intents and purposes, a small tribe, much like my own nation), but these places have to understand that there are much bigger players out there.

Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: OceanMan


Yeah it's always a game of big bank take little bank...

The issue is Hugo and Maduro made it easy.
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Globalist stooge Guaido, promises to change Venezuela's oil law to the advantage of the U.S. at the expense of Venezuela

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bump
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U.S. neocons have their eyes keenly set on the prize. God help the people of Venezuela.
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The only reason the people of Venezuela continue to suffer is because of the Neocon-imposed sanctions placed on their country. Trump was elected to put an end to this Neocon bullshit but unfortunately he's turned out to be really no better than Obama and Bush when it comes to foreign policy. Or maybe he just has his hands tied by the Deep State. Same difference.
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Venezuela could be as succesful as Australia, but because of the stuff that Chavez tried to introduce, things have backfired in a big way.

Unfortunately, nations around the world have to play the globalist game.

In some ways I do respect the path that some of these nations have taken. Globalization really does seem to be the end-point, however. Love it or hate it...
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"What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil."
No! the goods will be offered in exchange for a loan to the IMF. oil companies will be bankrupt first and then bought for nothing. all the resources will be privatized and the profit will be shared between the politicians in power and the economic assassins. for Venezuelans will not be better. they will even pay taxes that they did not even know they existed. but they will live in democracy!
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"What may happen is goods will be provided by exchanging for oil."
No! the goods will be offered in exchange for a loan to the IMF. oil companies will be bankrupt first and then bought for nothing. all the resources will be privatized and the profit will be shared between the politicians in power and the economic assassins. for Venezuelans will not be better. they will even pay taxes that they did not even know they existed. but they will live in democracy!
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So the Russians and Chinese supplying goods to the Venezuelans will be in exchange for IMF loans ?

I don't think it will quite work like that...

Reason being is there is a impasse on the situation Maduro is still recognised by Russia China Turkey Iran PDVSA state owned oil company, the Venezuelan military is sided with Maduro, so the opposition would have to go gureallia and take control militarily in order to oust Maduro, it would have to be civil war.
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NON-ESSENTIAL US PERSONNEL IS ALREADY LEAVING THE US EMBASSY IN CARACAS


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